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yeah i hear nothing but bad news about those motors, but aside from that, is this a sought after car? and if its a rare car i probably wont driev it that much either, maybe summer only.
They are nice cars, but they aren't the fastest by any stretch. Before buying any pace car, 82 or 93, consider the cost of te decals and the paint. If you want a pace car for the status of the car itself, expect to pay more than a regular Z because of the special interiors and the paint scheme.
They only made 6360 of them in 82. The values of these, like most of the other 3rd gens, are pretty low right now, but I am pretty sure they will appreciate rather well. I really doubt that they will ever reach the cost of a 67 or 69, but the value is sure to rise considerably higher than a "standard" Z28 of the same era.
According to several Camaro "experts" including the International Camaro Club. THE hot ticket in the 82 Pace Car is the Crossfire engine, and 4 wheel disc brakes which that car has.
If she was not on the otherside of the US, I would pick it up...
why do so many look down on cfi, the lg-4's feedback carb was as much trouble if not more than cfi, if I had to choose between the two cfi would be the one I'de pick.
the pace car restored would be one hell of a nice ride, even in stock form they weren't fast by todays standards, but who cares they sure can turn heads wherever they go.
hmmm descisions desicions...i already have a 94 formula, a 79 trans am project so the wife may nix this project. i guess ill have to decide on which to finish and restore.
and if i do resore it, it will most likely be used for daily driving in spring,summer,fall to work/school and back. as i have a 79 TA i was going to restore for that purpose, would this be a better route? it does require a lot less work then my 79.
You can get the parts from one of several sources; Ebay, Classic Industries, Paddock, ect..
Decal set will run you close to $1000, but when you realize how many there are...it is not a bad price. The real only "differences" between the Pace Car and the regular Z is the paint and interior. There are several small differences such as the centercap inserts, but pretty much any Z part will work on the Pace Car.
How many other chances will you have to have a "Pace Car"
The seller of the car knows where to get all the parts. She has already located the interior, and has probably documented the best price for the decals. Check with her.
In response to your earlier ? on total price, break it down.
1. 2 tone paint, good quality - ~$3000
2. Decals - $900
3. Interior - ~$1000, maybe more for all parts.
4. any body panels or body work - maybe $500
5. Mechanical and brake work - $500 - $1500.
Worse case scenario with the numbers listed only - $7000 + car.
Last edited by scottmoyer; 04-18-2004 at 08:53 AM.
im just wraggling with myself trying to figure out if it will be worth all the work/dollars. it may be worth quite a bit, but will there be demand for it down the road?? i know of a few guys that had 25th anniversary TAs and had mountian loads of trouble trying to unload em. one guy had a rare 25th TA drop top with m6 and only 30kmiles ended up selling for 9800.
personally i like the look of it and im pretty sure its a rare car in my neighborhood.
also is the 305 cfi a basic sbc? if i look for say headers will it be basic sbc stuff? heads? what kinda show mods would there be for the cfi? ie. valve covers. or woudl that be ruining the rareity of it? im not looking to cam it or anything, but simple bolt ons.
Can't answer on the mods issue, but you have to look at our current economy. I have a 93 Indy Pace Car. There was only 645 made. 1/10 of the 82 Pace cars. Because of the economy, I can't sell the car. People are holding on to their money right now. The economy goes in waves and we're at a low right now. It'll pick up again and then the car values will increase. Once the economy stabilizes and people start getting jobs, promotions, bonuses, etc., then the demand will come back.
Anyone interested in a 93 Z28 Pace Car, 1 of 645 made, 30k miles for $14500. You pay, I'll ship!
Originally posted by aaron7 ... why? It's a popular combo to put in these cars...
Yea well this is a PACE car not a reg z28 Camaro. one of approx 1590 pace cars produced with the CFI/ 4 disc combo. & the first one to be built (or so I am told) with this combo besides the pace cars.
i owuld never put a lt1/t56 or anything that didnt belong in a pace car liek that, if it was a write off or a non numbers matching wreck then i would consider it, but yeah i dont have the cash but i have the parts unless someone wants to buy the lt1/t56 and give the cash to me to give to tammy
Thought you '82 pace car fans would like to take a look at one I found while searching for a donor car for my 'vert restoration / build up. This one has 36 original miles and just came out of climate controlled storage....I've been drooling ever since I saw it!
1982 CHEVROLET CAMARO, Pace Car, only 36 actual miles, Z-28 bubble stored, plastic still on seats, steering, carpet all fact markings intact, much documetation, for the serious collector, $35, 000, ftobin41@aol.com, 330-497-9744, OH. -SC+
Here's a few more ads to give you some Idea of what '82 pace cars are selling for:
1982 CHEVROLET CAMARO Z28, INDY PACE CAR, SILVER W/BLUE LOWER BAND, ONLY 31K A CTUAL MILES, FULL FACT EQUIPPED INCLUDED A/C, HAS ALL ORIGINAL STRIPES /DECALS. ALWAYS GARAGED, ALL ORIGINAL, GREAT CONDITION, ADULT OWNED, MUST SEE-TOO MANY CARS. $10, 900 OR BEST OFFER 408-846-9211 OR 408-499-5496. -HW(408) 846-9211
1982 CHEVROLET CAMARO Z28, INDY PACE CAR, NEEDS RESTORING, BODY IN GOOD SHAPE, NEW 400 SMALL BLOCK W/400+HP & 400 TRANNY STALL & SHIFT KIT, NEW TIRES & BRAKES, SS EXH SYSTEM, $7000 INVESTED, CALL 502-643-2569 LOUISVILLE(502) 643-2569
1982 CHEVROLET CAMARO Z28 PACE CAR, SILVER/BLUE, INDY PACE CAR, T-TOPS, AIR CONDITIONING, AUTO, 36K ORIGINAL MILES, NEW TIRES, TUNE UP, EXC CONDITION IN & OUT, MUST SELL, $8, 500 , 904-223-8613
1982 CHEVROLET CAMARO Z28 (INDY), V8, 4-SPEED, POWER STEERING, POWER BRAKES, POWER DOOR LOCKS, POWER WINDOWS, TILT, AM/FM, T-TOP, NEW GM 330HP 350 CRATE MOTOR, HEADERS, CLUTCH, DUAL EXH, RADIATOR, ALT, MUCH MORE, A VERY RARE INDY 500 PACE CAR, NICE CLEAN CAR INSIDE & OUT, 47K ORIGINAL MILES, A REAL ATTENTION GETTER. $8500 OBO. 541-567-7218. HERMISTON, OR
1982 CHEVROLET CAMARO INDY PACE CAR, 305 V8, FRESH REBUILD AT, T-TOPS, AIR CONDITIONING, GREAT PARTS CAR, $1500 OR BEST OFFER ; 320-632-4408 LITTLE FALLS
1982 CHEVROLET CAMARO INDIANAPOLIS 500 PACE CAR REPLICA, MECHANIC OWNED, ONLY 6000 OF THESE WERE MADE, ONLY 38K MILES ON NEW REBUILT ENGINE-350, 4 BOLT MAIN STEEL CRANK AND TRANSMISSION, COLD A/C, TO MUCH NEW STUFF TO LIST, $3, 000 OR BEST OFFER, 954-321-9132
All these ads are current as of 05/01/04 so if you want to call on one.......there are a couple more...just search 1982 Chevrolet Camaro Pace Car on www.collectorcartraderonline.com
Some of those prices are rediculous! Do a search for ended auctions on ebay, and you'll see what they really sell for. I could ask $10,000 for my Iroc, doesn't mean it's worth that or that people would ever buy it
I'm not sure weather you took into consideration that the car is in the US & you're in Canada...
Not too certain but I think it could be a huge hassle getting the car registered in Canada; all depends on what inspections it'll have to go through.
What someone is "asking" for a car, and what someone will actually pay for it, are often 2 different things.
Those cars in typical high mileage condition are "worth" little if any more than any other Z28 or Trans Am of the same age and condition; krazzy's pride in her car notwithstanding. It really doesn't matter how "rare" it is, or whether it's the "first" something or other, or any of that. The reason is real simple: in the world at large, NOBODY CARES. The biggest reason nobody cares about them was, is and will continue to be the same reason that I didn't buy one in 1982, and kept on driving the 79 Z28 I had at the time, and later bought a 83 L69 car instead: they were slug-slow and unexciting. And, there's a significant liability to those after a lifetime of usage, which makes them next to impossible to restore or maintain: nobody makes the correct interior stuff for them, so you can't put the seats and carpet back to the exact way they came. Close, but not exact. So one of them that's been daily driven all these years is essentially already destroyed, as far as its "original" value is concerned. Basically there is no going back.
It's rather pointless to argue with somebody about what their car is worth to them. If krazzy thinks her car is worth more than somebody else wants to pay her for it, then she gets to keep it. Real simple. If somebody comes along and is willing to pay what she wants for it, then that's what it's worth, and you just screwed up by not being willing to pay it, if you really want the car. If you want to buy it and don't want to pay what she's asking, tough. Go find another one at a price you are will to pay, and buy it. All this wrangling about what hers is "worth" is pure mental self-abuse.
Instinct tells me that guy in Cleveland with his "bubble stored" one is going to be running that ad for it for a long time to come before anyone steps up willing to take it off his hands.
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Originally posted by CanadianCamaro sassyherbbassi,
I'm not sure weather you took into consideration that the car is in the US & you're in Canada...
Not too certain but I think it could be a huge hassle getting the car registered in Canada; all depends on what inspections it'll have to go through.
already looked into it, would haev been a pice of cake, all you gotta do is pay the taxes on it, take it thru inspection , minor stuff. ive got two buddies that imported in cars one was a mint 95 TA and another a mint 02 C5. its not that hard but since i wont be getting it, im looking on selling the lt1/t56 now.
It's rather pointless to argue with somebody about what their car is worth to them. If krazzy thinks her car is worth more than somebody else wants to pay her for it, then she gets to keep it. Real simple. If somebody comes along and is willing to pay what she wants for it, then that's what it's worth, and you just screwed up by not being willing to pay it, if you really want the car. If you want to buy it and don't want to pay what she's asking, tough. Go find another one at a price you are will to pay, and buy it. All this wrangling about what hers is "worth" is pure mental self-abuse.
I happen to agree with ya. As I tell people when I had my Sports card store the vaule of a card is only what someone is willing to pay.
As for my 82 pace car I am not willing to sell it for anything less then $1500 but as the owner of the car that is my option. I just had someone come look at it today & they want all of the camaro pace cars. They already have the last one.
That's a lot of cars... is he collecting the ones that were on the track in 82 (about 140 I think), or just all the pace car look-a-likes made in 82 as well?
Originally posted by aaron7 That's a lot of cars... is he collecting the ones that were on the track in 82 (about 140 I think), or just all the pace car look-a-likes made in 82 as well?
No she wants a 67,69, 82, 93,97 & they already have a 2002 brickyard signed by Scott Settlemire & its #3.
I should have said one of every year the camaro paced Indy & the Brickyard.
Originally posted by aaron7 Some of those prices are rediculous! Do a search for ended auctions on ebay, and you'll see what they really sell for. I could ask $10,000 for my Iroc, doesn't mean it's worth that or that people would ever buy it
I dunno .....an '87 vert with 30 something thousand miles just sold for 13,100 on ebay 2 weeks ago......
.The prices on low mile 3rd gens are starting to really take off....collectors are starting to add them to their stables.........the rest of the cars prices will follow in a year or two.....but beaters will always go cheap....For example, I know where I can get a rough '67 Camaro with no engine or trans right now for 3000.00. I bought a '69 SS396 convertible 5 years ago with no motor or trans, needed paint and interior, for $2800.00. Sold it a couple weeks later for $6000.00. The guy I sold it to did a rotisserie restoration on it and sold it for $31,000. I watched the same thing happen with muscle cars in the '80s, that is happening now with 3rd gens. The ultra rare models/ ultra low mile cars jump in price first. Then the 'verts and well built modifieds/ well kept higher milage stockers, will follow in a year or 2. The prices on common quality 3rd gens have risen about 1000.00 ..on average over the last year and the price surge is just starting....personally I'm going to buy up all the verts I can get my hands on / afford over the next year...I'm pretty sure a $6000.00 to $7000.00 (excellent condition < 80,000 miles) third gen vert should double in price in around 4 years. If it takes a little longer I'll just keep um till they do get to the price I want and enjoy the h#!! out of them in the mean time...the problem with Z28/IROC/Coupe/t-top cars is that there is literally almost 1,000,000 of them out there. You'll have to have a very nice example to make good money on it in the near future. But don't worry too much there were almost 3/4 million 1st gens produced too.
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'88 Camaro Sport Coupe convertible
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'70 LT1 350 w/ AFR 190 heads, long tube headers, Edelbrock carb ( for now)
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same as my other post... I'm tired of typing, do a search 
but since i wont be getting it, im looking on selling the lt1/t56 now. 
