I just bought a 84 firebird with a 4cyl5speed. The body is real solid and the engine was rebuilt about 1000 miles ago and a new clutch was installed. title says it has 155,000. Needs a paint job but i plan on slapping one on in the spring. Is this thing rare? How much you think i could get out of it?

Ironduke eh? Don't see those often at all....

rare and desirable are 2 tottaly different things.

keep it

I got an 85 4 banger firebird once.... for free to get it out of his yard. Nice body, though. Thanks to its existence my 87 formula was allowed to survive an unfortunate racing incident.......
Anyway, as firebirds go, it actually LOWERS the value to be a factory 4 cyl. All the more reason to hot rod it if it has a nice body!

Be a nice candidate for a fwd buick v-6 since the "duke" uses the GM metric tranny bolt pattern...............

Eh, i would rather just try geting rid of it. I forgot to mention that i have a 84 t/a ho that is just siting there. So i thinkim just going to try to off the 2 in a package deal and maybe make some money. Thats the plan, but we'll see maybe ill like the gas mileage of 4 banger.

How slow can you go...

L4's are as noted above unusual, not "Rare" but unusual...

Desirabilty... Zero, Zippo, Nadda, None... I guess there might be a few people out there that find them really "Desirable"...

Actually it does make a good canidate to Turbo, or Supercharge, or put some big ole engine in it... Considering the Insurance should be LOW LOW LOW

It might be kind of fun to Supercharge, slap some Turbos, and put NOS on it, just for grins...

Actually because of internal frictions, you could put 15 PSI boost on it and get the equivelant of a V8 or even better.

John

If you were anywhere near minneapolis i would consider it. I want a 4cyl with a manual 82-84 Bird.

i love the 4 cylinder f bodies, never actualy seen one in the metal, but would love one as a daily..

good ole iron duke, it barely moves my fiero, hate to see it in the F-Body whales.

back from the dead.

In case anyone here is interested. Here's a couple pics of my firebird iron duke.

I'd like to modify this one with a turbo sometime in the future. (just for grins).

Wait just a second, where is the other half of your engine!!!

THe cool thing about that engine is you could remove the fan shroud and stand on the ground while you work on it...


John

My first car was an 85 Grand Am with the Iron Duke. The thing was nearly indestructable! I know I put it though things that I wouldn't wish on a Mustang!! It had over 200,000 miles on it when I sold the car and it still ran pretty good (as good as the 2.5 ever ran).

Do any of the other Iron Duke owners find it ironic that years after the 2.5 was discontinued, Pontiac started making a car called the Vibe?

I have had the fan shroud out while servicing the radiator at one time. I should have snapped a pic. It was pretty bare. I want to put in an electric fan setup to remove the big 'ol fan/shroud. It would really open up the engine bay. Mainly for a turbo that I would like to eventually put in.

LONG LIVE THE DUKE OF IRON!!!

Ive only heard of one iron duke in Sweden so ship it to me and i will take good care of it. It would be the perfect car to use during the winter.

i found one of the 4cyl camaros in a junkyard near my house, very straight and solid car. damn shame it's a little 2.5.

Wish I could have one. Just for yuks, and to see what I could do with it.

Probably would be a good drifting car with a couple of turbos on it!!

Do something crazy like dropping a 2004 Ecotec Turbo and the manual tranny from the upcoming Solstice for something different. Keep it nice and light and powerful.

I ran across a four banger Camaro at the junkyard last year. It didnt dawn on me what it was until after I'd left. I should've got it, it wasnt in bad shape.

Look at little bitty motor with all that **** around it to make it look bigger. Thats the first 4cyl ive seen.

I think with all the stuff cluttering the engine bay it gives the impression of something bigger than it actually is.

When I open the hood to show people the motor they don't automatically see that it is a 4 cylinder. I have to tell them and then they take a closer look.

-later

I would buy one just to have does it get good gas milage?

It must! Not sure if it's the same motor, but the 2.5 in Cavalier's and such were good on gas.

Yes, it gets very good gas mileage. I could drive 2 hour road trip from my home for a weekend (all driving around included and 2 hour drive back) and only use about half tank. If that.

Not a real scientific analysis but it gets good gas mileage. That's the main reason why I put the bird back into the regular driving routine (had it parked for about 2 years). I drive much farther to work at from my new house than before.

-later

gotta love the good ole duke. Of course i dont know why someone would want it in an f-body. of course mileage is a lot better than a v6 or v8.

Decent motor in a fiero though.

I have driven a 4 cyl Fiero, and it was a real Dog, it was no wonder they cancelled the Fiero! That and it over exciting fire issues...

John

Pontiac had an 84 Firebird with a 272 hp Iron Duke. Of course it had a bunch of SD parts, but 272 hp out of a 4 cylinder third gen is still 272 hp!!!!

I will try to scan the article. It's pretty old, don't know how it will scan in.

fire issues was 84 only...

it gets a hell of a lot better mileage than my f-body will.

they were cancelled because of gm not wanting a car that sold under 100,000 other than the vette and the vette team was scared. there are fiero's now that run circles around f-bodies and vettes.

I wonder what it would be like to drive a 4 cyl 3rd gen though. 0-60 in 60 seconds?