found this on ebay http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...m=190098254103 Added by scottmoyer for the purposes of history since the ad and pics will soon be lost. "1984 CAMARO Z-28 NEW-NO MILES! This is surely the only one out there, a brand new, never sold, never titled, stored from new, 24 year old Z-28 Camaro. Just 6.5 , that's right six and 5 tenths miles on the odometer and still in original Chevrolet dealers inventory until last month when we were able to purchase. Original window sticker still in place and car has never had a state issued title, just the GM statement of origin (MSO). Cordia Chevrolet of Clymer NY took delivery of this car in 1984 with plans to build a race car but nothing was ever done whatsoever and car just sat inside their building under cover for all those years. It was run and serviced over the years to see that no problems ever developed but that is it. The car qualified for a number of warranty campaigns over the years but this work was never done although the parts were all secured and put in the trunk along with the service instructions. Pretty amazing stuff. Huh? A very nicely ordered and optioned car finished in White exterior with the 1984 only Red custom cloth Z-28 exclusive interior, a $650 option seldom seen. This car has the best drivetrain available that year with the optional 5.0 High output motor, 5-speed manual transmission and optional 4 wheel disc brakes. Other options include the following: Power windows, locks and hatch,quiet sound group, front rear mats, roof drip edge moldings, intermittent wipers, rear defog, deluxe luggage compartment trim, twin sport remote mirrors, roof console, locking rear storage, rear cargo cover cruise control, tilt wheel, auxiliary lighting, halogen headlamps heavy duty battery, dual horns, AM-FM - cassette-equalizer, stereo radio. Very interesting is the fact that this one of the last years that a car like this could be ordered and custom built with all of these unique stand alone options, not the packaging and standardization in models we have today. So many choices and stand alone options costing as little as $10.00 make it almost impossible to have 2 identical cars when you consider color and trim into the order. This is one well ordered car in stunning colors. Cars like this seldom come to market and this car will prove to be a lasting investment if it is kept well like it has been for the first quarter century. Look over our extensive photos, ask any and all questions you may have and come see the car if you desire. No disappointments on this car, just brand new in every way and impossible to duplicate. "

Amazing if true. But it looks to me that the engine bay & door jams have more than 6.5 miles on them.

Funny how even with no miles the passengers side seatbelt retractor doesn't work. Also the trim between the front bumper cover and the radiator support is missing. The tags that are on the upper radiator support normally would be on the trim plate. Something about the condition of the tags in the drivers door jam, and the inside of the gas door, look fishy. The stripes and the back bumper don't look quite right either. I could have sworn the bumper should have a black insert with the 5.0 Liter HO script...

It might very well be what it's advertised as, but I wouldn't take it for granted.

Edit: And why in the hell didn't they mention it doesn't have A/C? Figure they would have noticed and known that's probably the most unusual part about the car.

The driver's side floor mat and pedals also seem to have a considerable amount of wear. Whether or not it's been driven only 6.5 miles, it looks as though it was kept in a showroom and saw a lot of customer traffic.

If anyone is interested, I've got a bridge in Brooklyn for sale. Cheap. Badman

I think it truly has 6 miles. All of the parts that are rusted/peeling will do that with age. Driver floormat is just dirty, same with pedals cant tell if they are "worn". I dont think they mentioned it didnt have A/C from the factory because normally that de-values the car. Even though it is unique for a well optioned Z28 third gen.

Side note, that is a BEAUTIFUL car. I love the color scheme. The camaro camaro camaro seats and door panels look great also.

Looking at it more, i think it may have possibly hit or something in the front. The color does not match completely, plus there is overspray on the rubber adjusters. Im not sure maybe they left the plastic shield off also when they fixed it.

Im still not doubting it really has 6 miles but sitting at a dealership for over 20 years it could happen if it was being moved in and out.

The rubber hood stops will be painted from the factory. That looks correct. Also, the urethane paint almost never matched the metal paint from the factory. My car is a good indicator of that. I think 1982 was the only year that had the black stripe in the rear bumper. I don't see what's wrong with the gas door or the engine compartment. Granted, the radiator cover is missing, but everything else looks correct. The floor mats and pedals will show signs of discoloration when there is foot traffic, starting the car for 24 years will do that! I'd like to have this car.

Ya i wasnt sure if those stoppers got painted or not i thought id seen some original cars that look like that. Hard enough with aftermarket paint jobs for the urethane bumpers to match to steel fenders so thats believeable. Thanks for the info.

I talked to the dealership, and he is sticking to the story as per ebay. The rear bumper treatment is correct. The Z28 models did not have the black out in the rear bumper cover. They were body color with the Z28 emblem on the ritght and the 5.0 HO call out on the left. He told me that reserve is $27k. I think the car could be worth that to a specific buyer, but it will not draw those numbers from the masses, for sure. Probably really is one of a kind remaining, but what is that worth? I just don't think these cars have reached that level yet. I have seen late 1le cars go for that or more with no miles, but the earlier cars are lagging. Keep in mind that 84 was a very high production year, but surely no more than a hand full remain in this conditon anywhere. I recently passed on a similar 85 tpi car here locally. It was stolen when new and stored. It was rediscovered about a year ago with 200 or so miles on the clock. Had minor rodent damage, but really a super car. Gray in color. It sold for $19k, so you never know. I do know that I'd like to have this 84, that's for sure! Thanks, Oldtimer.

yeah it is a really really nice car,but the price is way out of hand,id have to say 10k.the problem is there will be somone out there that will give them what there asking for the car,though im sure it would take a long time for it to be sold

If it only has 6.5 miles, why is there only 1/2 a container of antifreeze? Also the belts look pretty worn out.. But thats just my .02..

Definitely a piece of history.......

And it may or may not be the real deal.....But I want to believe!

Since when did the amount of coolant in the overflow determine anything about the mileage on the car...?

If you can tell from those pictures that those belts are worn, damn props to ya.

Now worn as in dry rotted...id imagine so.

If thats true I bet those T5 gears have been banged to death through an imaginary windy road scene by every person who has sat in that seat the last 24 years to just start the car.

I mean, at least I know I would have...

is it me or is there no pic of the speedometer?

I am no expert on thirdgens like some of you but I would venture to say that the 6 and a half on the clock are right on the money, lets not foget that this vehicle was never titled that in its own in my opinion should stand for something, no matter what that is by far the cleanest 84 z I have ever seen.

Did the tires in 84 come with blackwalls? My 83 came with white letters. I was wondering if this car's tires had been changed. Can't tell if they are Eagle GTs.

Larry

You could get them. If you look on the sticker, its a credit. And they were still Eagle GTs.

dam somone did bid on it

That is one sweet car, except for the red seats It would match my white 82 Z 28 very well Now if I could just find the cash

Are you sure those are Eagle GTs on that car Note the Firestone tire book on the right side on the picture for the manuals. And I if remember correctly the Eagle GTs were raised white letters on one side and raised black letters on the other side. Just like the 20 some year old set on my car. Why would you get a credit to turn the tires around so the black letters show instead of the white letters????

Wonder if that car has a build sheet hidden under one of the seats????

I don't see a radio antenna, even thought there appears to be a mounting for one.

Does anyone know if a posi rear end was part of the HO package that year? I did not see a G80 RPO on the window sticker, but I could have missed it.

Dave

My 84 also got the credited black walls. They weren't raised from what I remember, at least not like the white letter tires. And they were black on both sides, not just the inside. The Firestone book might have been the spare.

G80 was an option. There was a block of that code if you got 4 wheel disc brakes from what I remember. At least for a short time. Mine also didn't have posi.

The L/S seats were awesome. Mine were brown to go along with the brown exterior. Much better than the red, or even the blue IMHO.

WOW. That car looks amazing regardless of the actual miles.

What my car SHOULD look like!

It does show wear but im sure many people have sitten in it over the years. They should have had a picture of the mileage. I would still take it 6.5 original miles or not.

Is it just me, or do the buttons for the window and hatch plus the turn signal/cruise lever look to be yellow, as is from a 1990-92...

that car is realy clean. i would jump all over it. any one know where i could get the door panels like the ones in this car?
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i think the posi rear was standard with the HO. i had an 84 z28 w/ttops auto trans and every thing was power but the seats. nothing power worked when i got it.

The '84 H.O. cars came with raised black letter Eagle GT tires with an "H" speed rating. This was RPO QYZ. The white book lists a credit of $92 with this option???

The base LG4 Z28's had raised white letter Eagle GT's RPO QYH.

David

It is a very clean car and I believe the # of miles is possible. But it is hard to judge accurately from a bunch of E-Bay pics. I did notice that some parts looked more dirty than in my ride. But then again, if the car has been only sitting for practically it's whole life, then it is possible to have more surface corrosion and dust & dirt than a car that's constantly maintained. That's the part that would have me worried. How are the engine seals? Dry the heck out? How are the fluids? Have they ever been changed? Etc, etc.
As for the passenger seat belt not retracting. It may have just been pulled and is now locked. This is normal. Give it a little tug and it will release the retracting mechanism and in it goes. We must have all noticed this in our rides from time to time!?
My car has original paint and has paint on the rubber hood stops. This is quite common.
I am surprised the hood and hatch struts still work (if they are original). They usually fail over time, even when not used regularily. The pressure cylinders tends to fail (leak) over 23 years. Not saying it's not possible for them to be original, just surprising.
Overall, great car.

Actually the seat belt issue was a very common failure that was addressed by a recall.

Don't worry about the tires being original. If they were, I wouldn't drive it an inch. Rubber sitting for 23 years has to be in terrible condition.

If I bought it, it would kill me to put the 10th of a mile on it loading it onto the rollback!! LOL!!

It is surprising that cars that never get driven experience wear. I have a handful of very low mileage GM cars from the 80's, and you do have to keep them up. I've always thought it strange that the same paint issues you see on daily drivers tend to happen on cars that never see the sun or the road. Nothing is immune from aging apparently ...

Oh yeah, the tire comment ... My '82 Vette CE has 454 miles, and the original tires. I've only driven it 4 miles in the past year, but they still felt okay. But that's not a good indication of their actual condition, and I sure didn't throw it into any 4-wheel drifts!

Mike

what a beautiful car! Isn't the stitching on the shift knob supposed to be horizontal, or were they like that in 84? It looks funny to me??

Anybody notice the windows sticker? I noticed a few discrepancies between the stated HO engine, all wheel disc brakes and what the window sticker says. I sent an inquiry to the seller but never got a reply ... here's what I had asked:

I'm a little confused about options - You mentioned this car has a High Output motor and has rear disc brakes, However, the dealer's sticker in the window says "4BBL V8 ENG RPO CODE LG4" which is the standard output 305. RPO code L69 would be high output. However, it appears that the VIN number shows engine code G which WOULD be high output. Dealer sticker also says "Power Front Disc/REAR DRUM Brake Sys." Can you explain these differences?

Interesting, eh? Any ideas?

haha they didnt even show a pic of the spedometer to show only 6 miles

The standard no cost options are listed at the top of the window sticker.
Looking at the window sticker option list shows both J65 4-wheel discs and L69 5.0 HO.

scottmoyer added pics for future reference

That explains it then. Didn't know that about the sticker.

sweet either way. Not big on the seats but the carpeted cargo area is nice. did they not have the trunk well sump then or is that a cover? If it's a cover I want one.

Looking at that car was like being in a time warp. It looks pretty undriven to me. If I was in the market for a new car I would spend the $16,000 over some $30,000 fo one of todays cars.

Yes, they had the trunk wheel sump. Take a look at the sticker, top of the second coulnm RPO - B48 - Deluxe Luggage Compartment Trim. Part of the trim package was the locking cover for the well sump. I have that option on my 82.

Wish my engine compartment was that clean. Guess I need to do a little work this spring.

So I see that no one met the reserve. Top bid was $16,201.

Dave

B48 has nothing to do with the rear cover. That is D27, Locking Rear Cover, available since 82. B48 is the carpeting that covers all the plastics in the back of the car.

Has the wrong radio in it. I remember my 1984 when brand new had the same stereo with equalizer however it had solid black volume controls and three push buttons below the cassette deck ... Radiator looks like a brass 3 row not the plasic tank aluminum core unit. I see alot of rust on the water pump and such my 84 when at 3,000 miles never had this.

I clearly remember my eagle GT's my car had non raised white letters on the outside of the tires surface it had goodyear eagle GT and inside the letter it had horizontal lines/ however the inside letters of the tires had true raised black letters with no horizontal lines in them.

the coolant bootles and wiper washer bottles appear to have more use rthen 6k miles ... my rubber hood stops were black and unpainted. However this could have been a norwood car mine was a van nuys car.

Interior appears 6k however alot of other stuff doesn't especiallyu the radio

The wiper bottle and coolant bottle look fine for 20+ years old. Just having the coolant in the bottle can discolor the plastic. The radio is from an 85 Oldsmobile or a different Chevy model, but not an 84. The Z28 always had the black knobs and buttons. Olds used the chrome caps, however, the radios were a glossy finish instead of a matte finish. As for the rust under the hood, that is easily explained for a car that might get sprayed to remove dust over a 20+ year span.

Thats the plastic end cap radiator. Its very visible in the picture of the engine compartment from the driver side. It even has the original radiator cap.

The radio is one with the electronic touch control for the tape deck rather than manual buttons. I dont know if that came out in 84 though, it was available in 85 for sure. Its possible the car was on display at the dealer and someone stole the buttons so they put something else in place, because the sliders for the EQ are black and the decks with the chrome knobs dont have black sliders. So... who knows.

I can see in the pics the seatbelts have the recall clips on the receiver side so no idea why the belt retract isnt fixed.

I think you guys are being picky. Go look at the car first and see what it really is. Doesnt look to me like a high mileage car from what I can see, however I think I would have stored it better... I think it sat in the repair bays and experienced a lot of temperature and humidity change.

The retractor probably wasn't fixed because they'd have to remove a 23 year old Ttop headliner to do the job.

Either way it doesn't matter, because they want more for the car than the market will bear.

The real question is, will it run? haha

that car was exactly (except for the radio knobs) the way it was delivered

the "missing" shield was for an A/C car ...

this one is NOT an a/c car ...

seriously, if you had something sitting around for that long it would look like that or worse

the car is the real deal and was not in a front end accident

the only "funny" part of the story is that the car was bought to make a race car out of

NO ONE (with a brain) orders extra options on a race car:
A. especially weight adding ones like the rear locking cover and the carpeted rear panels
B. extra options = extra purchase price $$$$, something MOST ALL racers tend to try to avoid wasting (hey, that is X number of tires ...)

This car may in fact just shows 6.5 miles on the odometer because GM used a five digit odmeter and it is actually 100006.5 miles. My 87 IROC-Z is also low milage with just 3260 miles on it and I am the orignal owner (it is also rolled over 100000 miles).

NO WAY that car has had the odo roll over ... LOOK at the pics ...

i once knew a body man that was so good you could never tell a car had a light or moderate accident. he fixed a red camaro it was a dealer car new on the lot being test driven and had a collision in the front rear ended someone while being test driven. he found a nearly new red camaro that had been rear ended and it was the same color red he changed all parts and never picked up a paint gun. just touch up on the bolts that were scraped by unbolting them. he also done a new maxima a lady was test driving she looked down to adjust the radio and bam rear ended another car. it is not right but he was piad to put these cars back like new and they went back on the car lots. it happens more often than you think. steve