'85 Banks TA question?
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'85 Banks TA question?
Does anyone have any information about the Banks Trans Ams built in 1985? What would one be worth? Here is what I have found out by previous owners and calling Banks. Banks said that they have no real records but they built a few with twin turbos and the price tag was $39,900. They said that they sold some engines to a company or some companies (I can't remember now) that allowed them to use their name. One of the companies built four of them. They were all non turbocharged engines from Banks. I think they were built by a company in Oklahoma but I can't remember for sure. They had suspension mods and interior mods along with a 350 installed and sold for $29,900 and sold as new cars. I had a copy of one of the window stickers but it is now long gone. That's a long story all it's own. Has anyone ever seen or know anything more about these? What would it be worth in very good shape with 70,000 miles? Any info would be great. Thanks.
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Re: '85 Banks TA question?
I knew Banks used the T/A's to run at Bonneville and play with the turbo set ups, but I did not know any were actually sold.
As far as rarity i'd compare it to a loaded Mecham T/A or perhaps a Saleen Mustang of the same era...
I think its condition would impact the price greatly. I also think it may be difficult to find a buyer/ seller that actually understands what the cars significance is.
Could you possible post some pictures or any other info about it?
As far as rarity i'd compare it to a loaded Mecham T/A or perhaps a Saleen Mustang of the same era...
I think its condition would impact the price greatly. I also think it may be difficult to find a buyer/ seller that actually understands what the cars significance is.
Could you possible post some pictures or any other info about it?
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I'll try to get some pics of the car. The ones I took are too big. I'll have to figure out how to shrink them a bit.
Here is what I know was done to the car. They installed a 350 from Gale Banks. It was carburated. It was lowered 3" with larger sway bars installed and Koni shocks all around. They installed 16" Gotti wheels. It has a complete digital dash that is woodgrained along with the console. It got Banks Trans am decals. It is black with black leather interior. Tilt, cruise, t-tops, power windows and locks, power hatch release, A/C, locking gas cap, and I'm sure there is more that I can't think of right now. There are no RPO #'s anywhere. I have owned the car since 1990. I bought it with 29,000 miles and it now has 70,000. I had the window sticker and previous owners names until my ex left and took all of the paperwork with her and didn't give it back when I got the car in the divorce. It was sold for $29,900 when new. It is in real good shape. Always garaged and very rarely driven. I installed a 383 a couple of years ago but still have the original engine.
I'm trying to find out what I can and what it is worth since it will be for sale soon. I need to make room for a 4th gen tube chassis drag car.
Here is what I know was done to the car. They installed a 350 from Gale Banks. It was carburated. It was lowered 3" with larger sway bars installed and Koni shocks all around. They installed 16" Gotti wheels. It has a complete digital dash that is woodgrained along with the console. It got Banks Trans am decals. It is black with black leather interior. Tilt, cruise, t-tops, power windows and locks, power hatch release, A/C, locking gas cap, and I'm sure there is more that I can't think of right now. There are no RPO #'s anywhere. I have owned the car since 1990. I bought it with 29,000 miles and it now has 70,000. I had the window sticker and previous owners names until my ex left and took all of the paperwork with her and didn't give it back when I got the car in the divorce. It was sold for $29,900 when new. It is in real good shape. Always garaged and very rarely driven. I installed a 383 a couple of years ago but still have the original engine.
I'm trying to find out what I can and what it is worth since it will be for sale soon. I need to make room for a 4th gen tube chassis drag car.
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Re: '85 Banks TA question?
So, Is it correct to say that Banks did the work to the car, then sold it to the public?
It is a shame the paperwork is gone, that would answer alot of questions.
As far as value, that will be pretty tough. 85 T/A's arent exactly the most desireable car's out there at the moment so they dont really bring a ton of money.
Another problem is the cars appeal... Many buyers may simply see it as a modified 85 T/A. I think if you find the right audience (someone who knows its significance, and likes interesting T/A's...) You could ask a higher price.
If the car is in good condition I would see what other nice 85 T/A's are selling for and price it in that range. You may want to ask a bit more because of the Banks set up.
I hope that helps.
It is a shame the paperwork is gone, that would answer alot of questions.
As far as value, that will be pretty tough. 85 T/A's arent exactly the most desireable car's out there at the moment so they dont really bring a ton of money.
Another problem is the cars appeal... Many buyers may simply see it as a modified 85 T/A. I think if you find the right audience (someone who knows its significance, and likes interesting T/A's...) You could ask a higher price.
If the car is in good condition I would see what other nice 85 T/A's are selling for and price it in that range. You may want to ask a bit more because of the Banks set up.
I hope that helps.
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The paperwork would go a long way...
I think Banks made a kit that would transform your F-body into a screamer, it included everything in the drivetrain, Engine, Trans, Axel, driveshaft, shocks etc... Its in one of my books on how to modify your 3rd Gen... I always thought you could buy the kit and install it yourself...
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I think Banks made a kit that would transform your F-body into a screamer, it included everything in the drivetrain, Engine, Trans, Axel, driveshaft, shocks etc... Its in one of my books on how to modify your 3rd Gen... I always thought you could buy the kit and install it yourself...
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So, Is it correct to say that Banks did the work to the car, then sold it to the public?
It is a shame the paperwork is gone, that would answer alot of questions.
As far as value, that will be pretty tough. 85 T/A's arent exactly the most desireable car's out there at the moment so they dont really bring a ton of money.
Another problem is the cars appeal... Many buyers may simply see it as a modified 85 T/A. I think if you find the right audience (someone who knows its significance, and likes interesting T/A's...) You could ask a higher price.
If the car is in good condition I would see what other nice 85 T/A's are selling for and price it in that range. You may want to ask a bit more because of the Banks set up.
I hope that helps.
It is a shame the paperwork is gone, that would answer alot of questions.
As far as value, that will be pretty tough. 85 T/A's arent exactly the most desireable car's out there at the moment so they dont really bring a ton of money.
Another problem is the cars appeal... Many buyers may simply see it as a modified 85 T/A. I think if you find the right audience (someone who knows its significance, and likes interesting T/A's...) You could ask a higher price.
If the car is in good condition I would see what other nice 85 T/A's are selling for and price it in that range. You may want to ask a bit more because of the Banks set up.
I hope that helps.
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What exactly do the PHS documents tell you about the car? Will it say what the companies was that bought it from the factory to modify? Will they tell you what it was modified into? Just wondering how much info I could get from them.
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PHS would only give you the informaiton based on what the car was when new out of the factory door. Anything after the fact they would not have anything, for example although the Convertible that I have was converted before the dealer ever saw the car PHS or GM has no record of it as it did not go through their channels. Your car would be under the same thing as once the car is our the door they forget about it unless you have warrenty work.
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Ok, sorry it's been so long. Been busy racing all summer. Here are some pics I took the other day. The fiberglass hood I installed last year. I still have the original hood.
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I like the vintage wheels and digital gauges.
What does it run with the 383?
Very sharp car. I like the subtle stripes on the lower body and matching Banks and Koni badges.
I also see the 85 only leather and cloth L/S seats.
What does it run with the 383?
Very sharp car. I like the subtle stripes on the lower body and matching Banks and Koni badges.
I also see the 85 only leather and cloth L/S seats.
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I've only had it to an 1/8th mile track a couple of times. It will run low 9's @ around 85 mph with almost no traction. You have to really baby it out of the hole or it will just spin. The stripes we added later. Had to get the front nose repainted from parking lot bumper blocks. We couldn't get the stripes that matched at the time so we added these in their place. If I remember right the original stripes in the fading part were circles and the only ones we could get were squares and didn't match very well or vice versa.
All the badges, guages, and wheels were part of the package along with other things. I remember when it was about a year old it sat at a local classic car dealership on the showroom floor for about a year and a half. I wanted it real bad then but couldn't afford it. A few years later I found it for sale at our local Mercedes, Porsche dealership on their used lot at a pretty reasonable price and had to have it. I've owned it ever since. Other than the stripes and the fiberglass hood it looks as it did when I first saw it.
All the badges, guages, and wheels were part of the package along with other things. I remember when it was about a year old it sat at a local classic car dealership on the showroom floor for about a year and a half. I wanted it real bad then but couldn't afford it. A few years later I found it for sale at our local Mercedes, Porsche dealership on their used lot at a pretty reasonable price and had to have it. I've owned it ever since. Other than the stripes and the fiberglass hood it looks as it did when I first saw it.
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