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Old 04-18-2008, 02:46 AM   #1
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Was There Ever

Was there ever a Third Gen Camaro made within the 10 years that they were produced that did not have an ECM?
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Nope, in fact I think even all of the late second gens (like 80-81) came with ECMs, including the LG4 engine.
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Re: Was There Ever

Certain earlier model carbed Canadian export thirdgen cars did not have an ECM. These are somewhat rare though.
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The Computer Command Control system was optional on LG4 305 V8 cars sold in Canada. Most people didn't order it. I'm not sure how the '82-84 2.8L V6 carbureated engines were setup for Canada.
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Thanks guys, Im gonna try to be on the look out for a Camaro without an ECM then even if they are rare bc I love these cars but I hate dealing with Check engine lights. Smog will always be there for these cars but at least with the ECM out of the way I could do a few things without throwing codes.
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you can still do things to the cars and keep the CCC system, just have to get the chips burned is all. You can gut the ECM control and put a regular vacuum distributor and carb on the car. But if you are getting a TPI car, it would be best to keep all of that setup and get the chips burned.
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I kinda like having the ECM tell me when a part fails and something is wrong. Instead of having the car run like crap and not know why. *shrug*
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I think cars equipped with any type of injection came with an ECM & carbed cars didn't.
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The carb cars in the US did have CCC on them, the carbs were controlled by the ECM with the timing and had alot of the sensors.
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If you're hellbent on not having an ECM, it would be much easier to just convert a car to non-computer carbed than trying to find a rare factory one. Besides, even without a computer, would you still want the factory quadrajunk carb and intake? To convert a car, it doesnt really take much more than an intake, carb, and vacuum distributor. If the car is originally TBI or TPI, you can re-use the existing in-tank pump, with a regulator to lower the pressure down to carb range. I think a few people have also just disconnected the pump, and let the engine-driven pump pull fuel through it.
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was there ever one with stock dual exhaust..the whole way not just after the muffler
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On the dual exhaust Tanker no is the answer in the traditional sense.The early cars had RPO-N10 which was a dual muffler setup off the single I-pipe from the cat.This was discarded on L69 cars in favor of a single hiflow muffler.

RPO-N10 was used again on the later cars for the dual cat setup but again still a single I-pipe feeding the muffler.

Starting with the L69 larger ID eahaust manifolds/y-pipe/i-pipe were used in conjuction with the free flowing monolith cat and muffler.This carried over to the majority of the TPI cars.The LG4/LO3 and LU5 shared exhaust system which is very restrictive.

My personal opinion why there wasn't a trual dual exhaust like the Fox body Mustang had was cost and lack of room underneath.
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