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I'm a pofessional tech, and I cant for the life of me understand why anyone even watches those shows. Horsepower, Muscle Car, Trucks, they are just infomercials for new products. Sure they have a $600 budget that anyone can stick to as long as they have a fully equipped shop, a machine shop, and free use of a dyno. Hell those guys have tools and equipment that I dont even have acess to!
Plus the shows are edited to death, of course they have to make everything go smoothly so they get the check for whatever new part they are selling that week.
If some company came out with an amazing (or mediocre) new produt that only worked on 82-92 Camaros or Firebirds, gave them a fat check to promote on the show, then you will hear them swear that 3rd gens are the most amazing car in the world.
To add insult to injury the entire point of the project is flawed. How much would you have to drive that car to see your money back after spending $1500 (real world) to get 2MPG? Even at $4.00 a gallon thats 750 gallons of gas........
Was the whole green camaro build pointless and a insult to us third gen guys, Yes.
what do you expect from a ford guy and Ric-er /gangster wannabe aka malibu's most wanted
the Ric-er guy just ruins it for me
i perfer two guys garage over the powerblock i learn more and i am an automotive mechanic too.
i just watch it for ideas and kicks
want to save on gas, maintain your car or buy a fourbanger wither way you will be happy.
Im really starting to dislike horepower tv. Those guys really are hacks. Ever see some of the wiriing they do and some of the fab work. It all looks like crap.
To add insult to injury the entire point of the project is flawed. How much would you have to drive that car to see your money back after spending $1500 (real world) to get 2MPG? Even at $4.00 a gallon thats 750 gallons of gas........
What they did was tune up stuff along with a couple of performance mods. The MPG was just an added benefit to more power.
What they did was the very basic stuff that everybody does. How is that an insult by showing the gains of what those mods do?
I think you are missing the point if you are only looking at the MPG return. Making the car more efficient will do both, more power and better MPG.
What they did was tune up stuff along with a couple of performance mods. The MPG was just an added benefit to more power.
What they did was the very basic stuff that everybody does. How is that an insult by showing the gains of what those mods do?
I think you are missing the point if you are only looking at the MPG return. Making the car more efficient will do both, more power and better MPG.
Sorry maybe I used the wrong wording, but I think the point still stands. They labelded the project "Green" which makes me think that somehow they were going to take this car and make it run cleaner (fewer emissions) and increase its fuel economy with increased power being the added benefit, not the other way around. There was no emission comparision, and I seriously doubt the emissions out the pipe of the car now are any cleaner than they were when it rolled off the assembly line. To spend that kind of money to get a very small return (2 MPG) to me is smoke and mirors, due to the fact that it wont really pay off for quite some time. And to take a crappy running car, emission test it, then dump money into and say "look how clean its running now" wouldnt count.
Add to the fact that there was no "new" product they could promote that could do anything to help with their goal gives you the crappy result and reaction you are seeing here.
Now, why dont they take the turbo Fox body, slap it to an IM 240 tester and see how it does? Do you think that it could still pass an emission test for whatever year it is, maybe so, maybe not. They wont do it but I still bet they make some comment on its fuel economy with the fancy wiz bang turbo from turboparts.com, Edelbrock, insert name here, or whatever other corporate sponsor they are whoring themselves out to that week.
Ok rant over!
Last edited by IrocZ_85; 11-30-2008 at 09:27 PM.
Reason: spelling
tv networks dont read emails. you have to write them thats how you make them listen or get an 80s boombox (like john cusack in say anything ) and play "we aint goin to take it" by twisted sister outside powerblock tv HQ lol
Great thread. All I can think of to say is that any PR for the ThirdGen is good in my eyes. Sure, these guys might be advertising puppets but the fact that a Thirdgen was their pallette is a good thing. Might make more folks who are entertained by this show buy a ThirdGen for a project and that's only a good thing.
Lastly, I love my stupid TBI. It starts every morning under all conditions and recently was given the duty of a 60 mile round trip each day when I moved it from California. No problem! 185K miles and counting!
Did anyone else catch the powerblock shows today? Apparently they are going to be selling a few of their builds on Ebay for charity and one of them is the 92 RS that was on Horsepower a few weeks ago. I guess the original owner didn't buy it back. I'll be keeping an eye on it once it's posted to see how high it goes as I can't afford to bid on it right now.
I got the impression they are gonna be posted in the near future, but I'm on Ebay a lot looking for parts for my V8 swap. As soon as I see it, I'll be sure to post the link.
how does a 1992 rs camaro suddenly become a 1994 RS camaro? can some one explain? Can you increase your gas mileage, and your horse power?. That was the premise behind our “Lean Green Machine” project. This 1994 RS Camaro, 305 TBI, automatic produced 144 hp / 224 torque / 20.3 mpg on our chassis Dynojet. When finished, it made 179 hp / 259 torque / 22.9 mpg. That’s an additional 35 hp, 35 ftp and 2.7 mpg. Here’s what we did it with. LSD? no bob ross pills
i like to know the crack they were on when this was posted because i want some.
Guys, I didn't have time to see all the threads so I don't know if this has been mentioned yet. but on the itunes store you can purchase all three shows. They are only 1.99 each. I got the first one because
i didn't see it, recorded the second yesterday and will download the third today on itunes.
Thanks for posting the link to the auction. I didn't think it would be going up this soon. And yes, I'm sure it was a typo, but you would think they would triple-check their listing before submitting it. I expect typos from the average joe listing on Ebay, but I expect more from companies that have their own advertising and legal departments.
actually a couple years ago they did a honda budget build and and put a used b16 out of a integra in their honda, and I was shocked when they did. I still don't understand why they choose to do a TBI thirdgen............
Thanks for posting the link to the auction. I didn't think it would be going up this soon. And yes, I'm sure it was a typo, but you would think they would triple-check their listing before submitting it. I expect typos from the average joe listing on Ebay, but I expect more from companies that have their own advertising and legal departments.
the worst part is the missing filter and tubes for the intake they made and is it just me or did one of the pictures look like the head light pockets were painted black? now that's the worst part. And ya they seem to hack at everything.
At least they did not do a front end rebuild like camaro performers mag.
I miss that one guy from muscle car too. He took his time and did great work, the painter and plasma torch guy are horrible.
did you mean the bald guy with a beard from muscle car?
chuck the chevy guy was better than the honda/gangster wanabee guy that replaced him he's very annoying
stacey from trucks wil be missed on now to gears
i watch speedvision more now the powerblock sucks they are smoking crack again
want true mechanics watch two guys garage (shade tree mechanic aka crank and crome) enough said
Tell me, no one on here is one of the 21 bids so far that have put this thing up to $6,100.00. I am amazed what people will pay for something that has been on TV.
(7 days 21 hours left)
__________________ Cardomain
D.I.Y.- Sticking it to the Man. and saving money
Don't believe the post counter, usually means they love to run there mouth more than their motor.
Cheers!
want true mechanics watch two guys garage (shade tree mechanic aka crank and crome) enough said
I got to say I DVRed Two guys garage the other day and I enjoyed it more then Horsepower. Thanx for the advice.
__________________ Cardomain
D.I.Y.- Sticking it to the Man. and saving money
Don't believe the post counter, usually means they love to run there mouth more than their motor.
Cheers!
. and saving money
