Go Back   Third Generation F-Body Message Boards > Tech Boards > History / Originality
Sign in using an external account
Register Forgot Password?

History / Originality Got a question about 1982-1992 Camaro or Firebird history? Have a question about original parts, options, RPO codes, when something was available, or how to document your car? Those questions, answers, and much more!

Welcome to ThirdGen.org!
Welcome to ThirdGen.org.

You are currently viewing our forum as a guest, which gives you limited access to view most discussions and access our other features. By joining our community, at no cost, you will have access to post topics, communicate privately with other members (PM), respond to polls, upload content and access many other special features. Registration is free, fast and simple, join the ThirdGen.org community today!


Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Old 11-02-2008, 08:50 AM   #1
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: Houston, Tx
Posts: 18
Car: 87' IROC-Z
Engine: 305 TPI
Transmission: Automatic

Classifieds Rating: (0)
need help restoring '87 iroc-z

My bro recently gave me his camaro, but its in really bad shape. And i dont even know where to start. Any tips?
erc07 is offline vBGarage Page   Reply With Quote
Old 11-02-2008, 09:11 AM   #2
Supreme Member
 
89ROC-Z's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2008
Location: Minnesota
Posts: 1,355
Car: 89 IROC-Z
Engine: 370 LSX, LS3 Top End
Transmission: Built T-56
Axle/Gears: 10 bolt 3.08

Classifieds Rating: (7)
Re: need help restoring '87 iroc-z

Give more info on the car. I.E. running and what motor/trans, miles, body condition, interior, Future plans with the car etc.

My order if i just had a shell.
1. Drivetrain v6 = no no

2. Suspension sfcs, poly bushings minus the lcas, any worn parts in steering, shocks/struts, and any mods you so desire

3. Body Fix any rust if any, dents, paint

4. Interior new carpet, 4th gen seats, and whatever else needs replacing.

Remember this is just my idea, If your nit picky like me and want a show car like i do, you'll need lots of money and time, neither of wich i have lol
__________________
'89 IROC - 370" LSX * Diamond Clutch * BUILT T-56 * FULL UMI Spohn Hotpart ES Tubular Suspension * HSW N2O & MicroEDGE * NANO
'98 Trans Am - Stock LS1 * Circle-D 4C Stall * Built 4l60E * SLP Lid * ORY * WELD RACING Prostar XP's * MT ET Streets * Boost to Come!
<-----More in vB Garage
89ROC-Z is offline vBGarage Page   Reply With Quote
Old 11-02-2008, 09:16 AM   #3
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: Houston, Tx
Posts: 18
Car: 87' IROC-Z
Engine: 305 TPI
Transmission: Automatic

Classifieds Rating: (0)
Re: need help restoring '87 iroc-z

the interior is trashed and the paint was a deep purple but most of its gone and its starting to rust. the car itself wont even turn over.
uhh where would i find the vin number? and i dont know much about it, but i think its a 305 w/ tpi
erc07 is offline vBGarage Page   Reply With Quote
Old 11-02-2008, 09:22 AM   #4
Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: Fort Worth TX
Posts: 199

Classifieds Rating: (0)
Re: need help restoring '87 iroc-z

Vin is at the bottom of driver side windshield. 8th digit if vin # will tell you what motor. If it is a IROC-Z the 8th digit will be F = 305 TPI or It will be 8 = 350 TPI.
Camaro Z Man is offline vBGarage Page   Reply With Quote
Old 11-02-2008, 11:07 AM   #5
Senior Member
 
Iroctopless's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: Killam, AB
Posts: 1,669
Car: 1989 IrocZ Convertible
Engine: 305 TPI
Transmission: T5 - 5 Speed Standard
Axle/Gears: 3.08

Classifieds Rating: (0)
Re: need help restoring '87 iroc-z

By the sounds of your question and experience, I think we should review the basics first. Then, if you have any specific question about the car, you will know under which topic here to ask.

One thing to decide is, do you even want to restore this car? This may sound like a silly question, but think about it. While it's great to keep these great cars on the road, the reality of the situation needs to be considered as well. Depending on a few factors, it is incredibly easy to spend WAY more $$$ on a 3rd gen restoring it than it is to buy one already in great shape. Or one that somebody else has done all the work (you typically do not recover all the cost of a restoration when selling the car).

You need to decide what road you want to go down, here are a few of those factors (and I'm sure others will have many other ideas as well) . . .
- The condition of the car and what needs to be done?
- Is your goal a daily driver or car show points winner?
- Who's doing most of the work? Yourself or do you have help? Or is some/all the work going to be at specialty shops?
- What are your skills and do you have the tools?
- Does the car have any sentimental value that may supersede what's practical for a budget?
- Are you going stock or aftermarket on parts and options?
- How much time are you allowing? A year, 5 years, 10 years, etc?
- What's your income? (no need to answer, just to consider)?
- Are you Car Crazy?

After you come up with some sort of a game plan, then you can decide if & where on the car you want to attack first. Basically it all starts from the ground up . . .
- structural
- mechanical
- electrical
- body
- interior

Warning; once you get started, it may be hard to stop!
You'd hate to get the car down to a certain point and then discover that you can't leave something behind you've found that needs repair! Then this often dictates that you take the car even further down, and then you discover that there's another thing you can't leave undone.
This is the vicious circle of fixing up old cars! You know it would be incredibly expensive later to tear the car down again (after she's "fixed" up) to get back to a certain point that needed attention before. So you can't just leave it. But then there's another thing, and another, and another, etc. This can blow your "budget" sky high!!! It's hard to draw the line when to stop. And that, of coarse, is a personal decision only you can make. Unless you have unlimited $$$ and/or time.

Good luck. There can be great fun and a rewarding feeling bring a car back from the grave. As long as we can still put food on the table!
Iroctopless is offline vBGarage Page   Reply With Quote
Old 11-02-2008, 11:52 AM   #6
Supreme Member
 
Krazzycowgirl's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2002
Location: Washington state
Posts: 2,085
Car: 87 Irocz, 95 Z28, 71 Z28 /RS
Engine: 355 Tpi, LT1, 355
Transmission: Auto, Auto, 4sp

Classifieds Rating: (0)
Send a message via ICQ to Krazzycowgirl Send a message via Yahoo to Krazzycowgirl
Re: need help restoring '87 iroc-z

depends on where you are located at, you can do a websearch for local Camaro/Fbody clubs & they can help you as well.

If the interior is trashed, Rip it all out & start sanding all the rust, get it good & clean, before you put any parts back in it.
Krazzycowgirl is offline vBGarage Page   Reply With Quote
Old 11-02-2008, 08:03 PM   #7
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: Houston, Tx
Posts: 18
Car: 87' IROC-Z
Engine: 305 TPI
Transmission: Automatic

Classifieds Rating: (0)
Re: need help restoring '87 iroc-z

my ultimate goal is to restore it and give it back to my bro. hes in the marine corp and it was always his "baby". but untill then i need it to run and look nice for daily driving. its not in terrible condition. and my income is fairly low cause im 16 and i work at kroger.
erc07 is offline vBGarage Page   Reply With Quote
Old 11-03-2008, 12:45 AM   #8
Senior Member
 
racing geek's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: Milwaukee, Wisconsin
Posts: 1,525
Car: 1987 IROC-Z
Engine: 305TPI
Transmission: 700r4
Axle/Gears: 3.42

Classifieds Rating: (5)
Re: need help restoring '87 iroc-z

Quote:
Originally Posted by Iroctopless View Post
Warning; once you get started, it may be hard to stop!
You'd hate to get the car down to a certain point and then discover that you can't leave something behind you've found that needs repair! Then this often dictates that you take the car even further down, and then you discover that there's another thing you can't leave undone.
This is the vicious circle of fixing up old cars! You know it would be incredibly expensive later to tear the car down again (after she's "fixed" up) to get back to a certain point that needed attention before. So you can't just leave it. But then there's another thing, and another, and another, etc. This can blow your "budget" sky high!!! It's hard to draw the line when to stop. And that, of coarse, is a personal decision only you can make. Unless you have unlimited $$$ and/or time.
That is true... I was just swapping in everything in my sig and ended up spending an extra $300 because of little parts I never even thought of and paint and new bolts/nuts, and stuff. It also took an extra 3 weeks because of waiting for paint to dry and parts to arrive (those strut dust shields were a pain to track down). Even so, I feel a lot better knowing it was done correctly.

Mike

Edit - post pics so we can see how bad/good it looks.
__________________
Suspension - far from stock, Brakes - far from stock
Drivetrain - upgraded, Engine - bolt ons
racing geek is offline vBGarage Page   Reply With Quote
Old 11-03-2008, 11:24 AM   #9
Senior Member
 
Iroctopless's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: Killam, AB
Posts: 1,669
Car: 1989 IrocZ Convertible
Engine: 305 TPI
Transmission: T5 - 5 Speed Standard
Axle/Gears: 3.08

Classifieds Rating: (0)
Re: need help restoring '87 iroc-z

Quote:
Originally Posted by erc07 View Post
my ultimate goal is to restore it and give it back to my bro. hes in the marine corp and it was always his "baby".
I can hardly think of a better reason to restore the car.
That's an awesome goal and give your brother all the best from us.
Good luck.
Iroctopless is offline vBGarage Page   Reply With Quote
Old 11-04-2008, 03:22 PM   #10
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2000
Location: Buffalo, NY
Posts: 2,286
Car: 1984 Trans Am
Engine: LT1
Transmission: T56
Axle/Gears: BW 9-bolt w/ 3.27s

Classifieds Rating: (2)
Send a message via AIM to JeremyNYR
Re: need help restoring '87 iroc-z

while your intent is admirable, I don't think a "restoration" is going to happen here. The word "restore" is used to describe very big undertakings where the car is almost completely disassembled and rebuilt at great cost in both time and money.

Based on your need to daily drive the car and your financial constraints, it sounds like you're best off limiting your project to mechanical fixes/maintenance and small, inexpensive cosmetic improvements. Basically, get the car running respecably and pretty it up where you can. Post up some pictures of the car so we can get a better idea of what you're working with.
JeremyNYR is offline vBGarage Page   Reply With Quote
Old 11-04-2008, 09:16 PM   #11
Member
 
Guy In A 90 RS's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: Central Valley, CA
Posts: 152
Car: 1990 Camaro RS
Engine: 3.1 V6 MFI
Transmission: MD8 Hydra-Matic 4L60
Axle/Gears: Standard/3.23

Classifieds Rating: (0)
Re: need help restoring '87 iroc-z

Well, since it doesn't even run right now, I'd focus on the engine first and foremost.

And then pretty much what JeremyNYR said. Get it going and keep it going.

That's what I'm doing. Don't be suprised if you gotta spend some cash on electrical components too.
Guy In A 90 RS is offline vBGarage Page   Reply With Quote
Old 01-18-2009, 08:06 PM   #12
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: Houston, Tx
Posts: 18
Car: 87' IROC-Z
Engine: 305 TPI
Transmission: Automatic

Classifieds Rating: (0)
Re: need help restoring '87 iroc-z

Alright. Well I've gone out and bought a manual. I've learned that I've got a V8 5.0 305 TPI. I've also suspect that its not starting because of the battery. Once I get it charged I think it will start. Btw I have pictures now
erc07 is offline vBGarage Page   Reply With Quote
Old 01-18-2009, 08:06 PM
ThirdGen
1992 Camaro




Paid Advertisement


Reply

Go Back   Third Generation F-Body Message Boards > Tech Boards > History / Originality

Tags
1987, 350, 87, camaro, deep, fix, interior, iroc, irocz, long, paint, purple, restor, restore, restoring, trans, vin
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off

 


1982 Camaro '82 || 1983 Camaro '83 || 1984 Camaro '84 || 1985 Camaro '85 || 1986 Camaro '86 || 1987 Camaro '87 || 1988 Camaro '88 || 1989 Camaro '89 || 1990 Camaro '90 || 1991 Camaro '91 || 1992 Camaro '92


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 10:17 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.7.5
Copyright ©2000 - 2012, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Search Engine Friendly URLs by vBSEO 3.5.2
All content copyright © 1997 - 2012 ThirdGen.org. All rights reserved. No part of this website may be reproduced without the expressed, documented, and written consent of ThirdGen.org's Administrators.

Emails & Contact Details