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Old 01-09-2009, 11:03 PM   #1
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My Fleet in Muscle Car Enthusiast - Feb 09 Issue

Here's my cars in this months issue of Muscle Car Enthusiast.

Jan, sorry but they didn't put a pic of the TTA cutaway engine in the article.

Please, no comments about the fugly bald guy...







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Nice article!! Makes me proud to be a 3rd Gen owner. We need more stories and coverage like that!!!
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Very nice, Congrats! That is a nice collection. Have you done anything with the JY 92 Formy you bought?
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Congrats It's a great feeling to get featured in a magazine, for me it's that someone else appreciates what you put your effort into. I dunno if this is your first time or not but I get the same feeling every time

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Very nice, Congrats! That is a nice collection. Have you done anything with the JY 92 Formy you bought?
I've been collecting parts for the JY car. Haven't done anything yet with the car. I do have a set of black Recaro seats (just like the Firehawk Recaro seats) and I'm debating if I should put those seats in or look for a set of perfect original ones.

It's my first time in a magazine. Most of the time I figure no one else appreciates the crap I like to collect.
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You have some killer 3rd gen's. They all look mint !
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WOW nice. Congrats man, nice lookin' collection you've got there. I'm jealous.
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Most of the time I figure no one else appreciates the crap I like to collect.
Ha! That's just funny...

IIRC that JY car was an SLP package car right? Was it a 1LE also? Cause I see a 91 1LE Formy in your sig, got any pics of that one? I don't believe I've seen that car.
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Very nice collection, Greg, congrats on the feature!

Your collection defintely makes me wish I had more room. I'd like to have a couple more 1LE's, plus some selected other cars. If only I had the space...but then we might be competing for the same cars!
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Congrats. That is awesome.
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That's some nice recognition for Third Gens! I have to find that magazine in the stores!
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No kidding, thats pretty awesome...

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Very nice, Greg. You must have a tough time deciding what to drive next. We should all have such problems. I thought I recognized that number 89 in the background. I should have asked to drive yours to compare with mine. I'd like to see your collection sometime.

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Very nice, Greg. You must have a tough time deciding what to drive next. We should all have such problems. I thought I recognized that number 89 in the background. I should have asked to drive yours to compare with mine. I'd like to see your collection sometime.

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Heck yea, you should have taken it out for a spin! You also need to come over and take #30 out for a spin.
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Congratulations on the nice cars and the write up. Very impressive to say the least. Being as you are from Tulsa you probably know Ed Wright.
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I've been collecting parts for the JY car. Haven't done anything yet with the car. I do have a set of black Recaro seats (just like the Firehawk Recaro seats) and I'm debating if I should put those seats in or look for a set of perfect original ones.

It's my first time in a magazine. Most of the time I figure no one else appreciates the crap I like to collect.
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thanks for posting! i'm definately hitting my local mag store and looking for this! I love collecting mags that involves our thirdgens!
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congrats man! I cant even begin to imagine how good it must feel to be recognized like that..
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Nice collection Greg! Wish I had more room and money too. I especially like the Firehawks...always wanted the third gen car but couldn't swing it with everything else, so I ended up with a fourth gen version of it!
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Nice Collection!
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Damn, impressive doesn't come close to describing. I'll have to find the magazine as well. I LOVE that collection. All the right cars IMO. Sometimes I wish I had kept my 1LE stock but then I figured, I didn't buy it to be a collectible in the first place.

Congrats on the magazine article.
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Re: My Junk in Muscle Car Enthusiast - Feb 09 Issue

one error in the thing that stood out was that it said
"most 1LE cars were built without AC"
but as we all know, this is not true...
ALL were built without AC
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one error in the thing that stood out was that it said
"most 1LE cars were built without AC"
but as we all know, this is not true...
ALL were built without AC
Unless they also had RPO B4C. A B4C (1991-92 Special Service Package) would have had A/C along with the RPO 1LE equipment.

A 1LE without RPO B4C (like mine) would be an A/C delete car.
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B4U Cars (i.e Firehawks) also had 1LE and A/C.

I've heard there are a few non B4U and B4C cars optioned w/ 1LE and AC. In 91/92 you could order the cars w/ just about anything (including T-Tops.)
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so do you ever go to any big car shows?

I'd drive from Canada just to see them at a show.

Looks like I better go to Chapters and see if I can get that magazine.
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Thats awesome T. Way to represent our community.
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congrats man! I cant even begin to imagine how good it must feel to be recognized like that..
To be honest it really hasn't sunk in (or it doesn't feel like that big of a deal?)

It's kind of funny..... I received a call on a Wednesday afternoon. It went something like: "Hello, my name is Steve w/ MCE and I'm going to be in town for the Ford/Shelby meet. I heard from Mr. Nameless that you collect 1LE cars and I'd like to come over on Friday or Saturday for a magazine shoot."

I said "excuse me?" He said yes, I'm serious. I think our readers would really like to learn about these third generation cars, especially the racing ones.

It was Wednesday night and he was coming over in 48 hours. I just purchased the shop and the cars were all dusty and the place was a mess. Fortunately a case of beer was the master persuader to pull in the needed help short notice......
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Re: My Junk in Muscle Car Enthusiast - Feb 09 Issue

hmmm... i guess i misunderstood how you got a 1le then.
i thought you had to specifically order AC delete and a specific axle ratio...
either way, its off topic.
cool cars man.
i wish mine was as nice as any of yours.
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You said in the article you had a 5.0 that took out all Third Gens you met? What was done to it?
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You said in the article you had a 5.0 that took out all Third Gens you met? What was done to it?
Not much was done it it. Exhaust and 3.73 gears.... plus I took out EVERYTING that had weight and wasn't needed. It was tuned very well and ran mid 13's. The 87 and 88 5.0's were some of the fastest out of the box because they were speed density cars. My friends mom had an 86 Corvette (we snuck it out a few times.) I could pull him off the line but he would inch me out on the big end.
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With that collection I'd say it was long over due congrats.
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T-Towner, If I were you I would lock up good if I were you. I am going to school in KS and if I could round up a few buddies we could play gone in 60 seconds with your garage. hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha. No I am obviously kidding. Great collection I can only hope to rival something like that. I've got a list of Trans Ams for a collection but it will be a couple years before I even get started with most of them.

I believe there is another collector like you who has the Firehawk Convertible along with a whole host of other third gens and other muscle cars as well. Don't recall who it was I saw the article in HPP a year or so ago.

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Not much was done it it. Exhaust and 3.73 gears.... plus I took out EVERYTING that had weight and wasn't needed. It was tuned very well and ran mid 13's. The 87 and 88 5.0's were some of the fastest out of the box because they were speed density cars. My friends mom had an 86 Corvette (we snuck it out a few times.) I could pull him off the line but he would inch me out on the big end.
By 5.0 are you referring to the Mustang?

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By 5.0 are you referring to the Mustang?

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Yes, an 87 LX 5.0 Moostang....5 speed and T-Tops. It was a very fun car and it was quite quick for back in the day. It's amazing how much I love F-Body cars considering the street history in the Ford.
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Not much was done it it. Exhaust and 3.73 gears.... plus I took out EVERYTING that had weight and wasn't needed. It was tuned very well and ran mid 13's. The 87 and 88 5.0's were some of the fastest out of the box because they were speed density cars. My friends mom had an 86 Corvette (we snuck it out a few times.) I could pull him off the line but he would inch me out on the big end.
Woulda been nice if you mentioned that it was your slightly modded 5.0 taking out probably mostly or all stock Thirds. Stock for stock an L98 G92 and a 5.0 5Spd was pretty much a drivers race.
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As was a race between a stock Buick Gran National and a 5.0.

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As was a race between a stock Buick Gran National and a 5.0.

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err...you know it's GranD National, right?

I don't like all this drivers race BS--one car is faster, period.
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err...you know it's GranD National, right?

I don't like all this drivers race BS--one car is faster, period.
Oh there are instances where a faster car gets beat because a driver of a slower car whips his @$$. Really it comes down to your motor, your tranny, your ratios (in rear end and tranny) your weight but most of all it comes down to the driver. Unless ofc it is a serious car, a 10 second bracket racer will beat a 5.0 whatever any day no matter who is in it.
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Oh there are instances where a faster car gets beat because a driver of a slower car whips his @$$. Really it comes down to your motor, your tranny, your ratios (in rear end and tranny) your weight but most of all it comes down to the driver. Unless ofc it is a serious car, a 10 second bracket racer will beat a 5.0 whatever any day no matter who is in it.
yeah I know that but one car is always faster then the other.

I am not gonna brag I beat a Lambo if the driver screwed up!
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nice collection I would be that happiest man in the world if I owned all of those are even one lol, any one know were the mag is sold would like to pick up a copy
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err...you know it's GranD National, right?

I don't like all this drivers race BS--one car is faster, period.
err... You should know that it is actually GRAN NATIONAL Buick even in the 60's called their cars GRAN SPORT... The D was dropped.

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Think I'm about done w/ Third Gen's F-Bodies. There are just a few specific F Body cars I'd really have to have.

Ultimately I'd like to pull together a collection of late 80's and early 90's muscle (if you can call the 80's "muscle.") I'd like to trade the 71 Hemi Cuda for an extremely nice GNX. I suppose a TTA would be needed, a syclone (or Typhoon) and......?

Cars w/ at least 4 seats that range from 1987 - 1993. (also include a 92 Viper.)
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Think I'm about done w/ Third Gen's F-Bodies. There are just a few specific F Body cars I'd really have to have.

Ultimately I'd like to pull together a collection of late 80's and early 90's muscle (if you can call the 80's "muscle.") I'd like to trade the 71 Hemi Cuda for an extremely nice GNX. I suppose a TTA would be needed, a syclone (or Typhoon) and......?

Cars w/ at least 4 seats that range from 1987 - 1993. (also include a 92 Viper.)
Don't forget the Corvette ZR-1. I grabbed the magazine last night. Haven't read it yet but I'm looking forward to it. Congrats again. This is where hard work pays off
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That was a sweet article about your collection, I just picked it up yesterday congrats!! After seeing your Player's cars I plan on trying to find one to drive/restore/race.

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Think I'm about done w/ Third Gen's F-Bodies. There are just a few specific F Body cars I'd really have to have.

Ultimately I'd like to pull together a collection of late 80's and early 90's muscle (if you can call the 80's "muscle.") I'd like to trade the 71 Hemi Cuda for an extremely nice GNX. I suppose a TTA would be needed, a syclone (or Typhoon) and......?

Cars w/ at least 4 seats that range from 1987 - 1993. (also include a 92 Viper.)
There are a few REALLY low miles TTA's in Autotrader.com right now. I think one has only 127 miles or something like that...

As for the GNX... That is almost give my Left nut territory personally

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There are a few REALLY low miles TTA's in Autotrader.com right now. I think one has only 127 miles or something like that...

As for the GNX... That is almost give my Left nut territory personally

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I'd prefer to hit the 2k to 7k mile TTA's. A 127 mile car would be great, but what fun would it be?

IMO, cars were meant to drive and enjoy, not collect dust. Keeping the miles off #6 is already tough enough.

As with everyone else....funds are tight right now....if cash was running out the wazoo then now would be the time to pick up some nice cars at great prices. Fortunately there will always be low mileage TTA's and GNX's available. It's in times like these you hope something REALLY special pops up at a good price.

Yea, the GNX is quite the dream car..... you know, it's funny how the Firehawks are in some ways far more special than the GNX's.....but no one seems to really care.
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