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This is a great post. I have the Briar Brown contour seats in in an 83 Z/28. Some one else said there were avail without the cutom interior. Sure enough that must be what I have, wish the door panels were on my car too.
This is a great post. I have the Briar Brown contour seats in in an 83 Z/28. Some one else said there were avail without the cutom interior. Sure enough that must be what I have, wish the door panels were on my car too.
Hey i was the guy at the M&G To tell you to post on this thread. Yeah THe brown seams really rare, especialy cause you dont have the door panels. I posted my blue ones on the last page.
Finally got around to updating the first posts with new pictures and information. Thanks everyone for helping complete this thread. Hopefully it has gone to some good use and helped someone out.
My car is a 1983 cross fire injection z28. Here is my LS Camaro Camaro Camaro seats. I have a small rip in the driver seat and I was wondering if anyone could tell me where I could buy this fabric. Also my seats are a little dirty so is there a cleaner i can use that will get it clean and looking like new. I'm really interested in how rare my seats are so any info would be great.
My car is a 1983 cross fire injection z28. Here is my LS Camaro Camaro Camaro seats. I have a small rip in the driver seat and I was wondering if anyone could tell me where I could buy this fabric. Also my seats are a little dirty so is there a cleaner i can use that will get it clean and looking like new. I'm really interested in how rare my seats are so any info would be great.
i think there's a few links at the beggining of the post about getting the material, i recently cleaned my seats, i used an industrial strength degreaser apparently, but it was VERY diluted, just a cap full in a bucket half full of water (i use the stuff to clean my wheels). then just use a brush and start scrubbing, just be careful, as this fabric seems to be delicate, also do one section at a time, and vacuume the excess after your done, also remember some parts look dirty but they are actually worn out so dont scrub too much. then let it sit in the sun and dry. after that i put some 3m scotch guard on the seats. they came out pretty good. hope this helps
Last edited by yoshirocks702; 07-04-2009 at 11:49 AM.
My car is a 1983 cross fire injection z28. Here is my LS Camaro Camaro Camaro seats. I have a small rip in the driver seat and I was wondering if anyone could tell me where I could buy this fabric. Also my seats are a little dirty so is there a cleaner i can use that will get it clean and looking like new. I'm really interested in how rare my seats are so any info would be great.
Everything your asking is on the first page of this thread. Awesome car!
It looks like it would work but that one screw hole pictured has me bothered since the real ones dont have it so im thinking its not quite right.
If you've put up a want ad and really cant find one after all that, PM me. I have an extra conteur switch with the cover that was planning on holding onto as a backup since they are very hard to come by. I might just part with the cover if your desperate.
Here's mine. I worked at Norwood and wish I had picked up some extra material back then from GM Parts. Who would have known. I think the LS Interiors are the best loking ones out there. It really sets the look of the cars off
They look really nice. I have the pace car with the conteur seats, but the problem I'm having is the base is a power seat unit, and I can't find the switch bezel for these kind of seats.
I've been contemplating trying a Corvette switch bezel. They look the same. I'll let you know how it works out.
Thanks
If you've put up a want ad and really cant find one after all that, PM me. I have an extra conteur switch with the cover that was planning on holding onto as a backup since they are very hard to come by. I might just part with the cover if your desperate.
Hey thanks!! I will keep that in mind. I have one coming from a corvette, and they look kinda similar. Would you know if they are interchangeable? If not I'm only out $15 bucks.
What kinda shape is yours in? What will you take for it?
I'll let you know, and I'm sure glad that I know where to find one!
Mike seto@windstream.net
The corvette ones look like they will work with a bit of fiddling. Give it a go and let us all know how it turns out. If it turns out they will work then i can edit the original post and add that bit of information in.
As for mine its in good shape. Its got a bit of wear on the felt-like stuff on the outermost corner but its not broken in any way. The switch itself is missing the center knob but if i understand correctly your switch is fine and you only want the plastic cover. Not sure what i would take for it to be honest. Im not looking for stupid money. We can cross that bridge when/if we come to it.
This is the seat that most likely started our spectrum interiors and possibly the idea for the LSC seats as a whole. I had heard rumors that RECARO seats had been the idea behind ours but hadnt actually found a picture of them until tonight. Enjoy.
This is a great post. I have the Briar Brown contour seats in in an 83 Z/28. Some one else said there were avail without the cutom interior. Sure enough that must be what I have, wish the door panels were on my car too.
I think what they mean't was that the contour seats were available without the custom interior. You obviously have the custom interior. Why you don't have the door panels is a mystery. Are you the origional owner? If your cars history is unknown to you then I suspect that the panels were removed. Look closely at the panels and see if there are any staple holes, or someone may have just put on a new set of door panels for whatever reason.
This is a great post. I have the Briar Brown contour seats in in an 83 Z/28. Some one else said there were avail without the cutom interior. Sure enough that must be what I have, wish the door panels were on my car too.
Darth 93 Your interior is the base vinyl with the LS seat option which when ordered without the Custom Interior you got the standard vinyl door panels as shown in your picture. Ordering the LS interior this way cost $375.00, but when combined with the Custom Interior you got the matching cloth door panels. The cost of the option jumped up to $650.00, so for the extra $275.00 you got the door panels and the BS1 Quiet Sound Group which was included with the Custom Interior. The only way the matching cloth panels were included with the seats in 83 & 84 was with the Custom Interior option. Then in 85 the LS Interior was only available with the Custom Interior. Check your interior code on the trim tag secured to the radiator support, it should probably be 67E.
The 10 83 Z-28's used for the Miss USA Pagent had the same interior you have in your car with the base vinyl door panels..............RatPack...........
The cost of the option jumped up to $650.00, so for the extra $275.00 you got the door panels and the BS1 Quiet Sound Group which was included with the Custom Interior.
That's odd my car has the custom interior, but i don't have the BS1 quiet sound group (I'm assuming the "BS1" is the actual RPO code).
edit: I answered my own question lol "RPO BS1 (Quiet Sound Group) was included with Custom Interior (except for Z28); standard with Berlinetta, $72.00 with Z28."
ps: just curious as to what exactly did the quiet sound group consist of?
edit 2: Answered my own question again haha "RPO-BS1 includes extra sound deading in the door panels and other interior panels" hope this helps someone
Last edited by yoshirocks702; 11-11-2009 at 10:56 PM.
I was able to find original solid colored fabric to patch the drivers outer bolsters at SMS Auto Fabrics in Oregon. http://www.smsautofabrics.com The fabric ran $85/yd. For the 84 interior, the SMS part number is "84 #447 Red"
I've seen 3 of these interiors in the junkyards out here in the past month, was wondering what they were.
One of them was really clean. I thought about getting it, but it was just too "eighties" for me. lol
I've seen 3 of these interiors in the junkyards out here in the past month, was wondering what they were.
One of them was really clean. I thought about getting it, but it was just too "eighties" for me. lol
Thats too bad. You should have sat in the drivers seat before you dismissed em as very 80s (which they are lol). They are extremely supportive seats though and much better than anything that was ever put in the camaros in the 80s. Only thing that might be better was the recaros in the T/As but they didnt get all the adjustments.
Maybe I missed it, but how much of the plain fabric is needed to redo the front and rear seats? $85/yard doesn't seem too bad for original fabric if it only takes 2 or 3 yards.
Thats too bad. You should have sat in the drivers seat before you dismissed em as very 80s (which they are lol). They are extremely supportive seats though and much better than anything that was ever put in the camaros in the 80s. Only thing that might be better was the recaros in the T/As but they didnt get all the adjustments.
I think they are hard and uncomfortable. I have the base interior in my 86 iroc, and they are much more comfortable then my ls seats in my 84. Though they still do look cool.
Maybe I missed it, but how much of the plain fabric is needed to redo the front and rear seats? $85/yard doesn't seem too bad for original fabric if it only takes 2 or 3 yards.
Im not entirely sure to be honest. I dont think that was mentioned anywhere in this thread. What i would do is call an upholsterer or the one that you plan to use and get their opinion on it. If they are good they should know just about how much you will need. Mine was so good all he had were a few scraps left over.
Hi, I am actually the guy mentioned previously in this thread that had the set on ebay in Vacaville. I was researching these seats when I came across this thread.
For some more info, those seats were actually out of a Pontiac Firebird SE (1984 or 85? can't remember) that was in a Sacramento Pick n Pull. It was a black v6 car that was in really good shape. I grabbed the seats quick as I klnew what they were and always wanted a set. Later I needed some cash so I put them up.
The guy who bought them was going to put them in his 2nd gen Camaro.
I recently found a set in a 1985 Pontiac Turbo Sunbird. They are really nice and while I did put them up for sale, I have decided to hold onto them and have them
re-covered later for use in my T Type. I am always looking for them so it makes sense to store them.
A few years ago I came across a set in a 84 T Type, the whole interior was gorgeous in sandstone and seats were perfect. I went back the next day and everything was gone. Ever since then I keep an eye out.
I have an 86 T Type btw, the 84 and 85 had these seats as mentioned but for 86 they were supposed to be an option but it never happened. Well, almost never as there was ONE made.
I have the opportunity to buy a set of 1982 L/S seats in the charcoal color with the different headrests. They are in decent shape but not perfect. My Camaro is the base 1989 RS. I was looking for suggestions as to whether I should get them for my car. With that being said there are a couple of things I am not sure about.
1. The non matching headrests.
2. These do not have the 3 Camaro's on each seat.
3. These are not specifically for my year of car (Even though they will fit)
I would appreciate your coments.
I have the opportunity to buy a set of 1982 L/S seats in the charcoal color with the different headrests. They are in decent shape but not perfect. My Camaro is the base 1989 RS. I was looking for suggestions as to whether I should get them for my car. With that being said there are a couple of things I am not sure about.
1. The non matching headrests.
2. These do not have the 3 Camaro's on each seat.
3. These are not specifically for my year of car (Even though they will fit)
I would appreciate your coments.
Kevin
It all comes down to your preferences really. 82 was the first year of the L/S seats and therefore did not get all the revisions that the later seats did. If you look at the shape of the bolsters and the leg rests of the 82s versus later L/S seats you will see noticeable differences. Also 82 didnt have any of the camaro spectrum cloth as you already know. Again all comes down to preferences. If you get them for a good enough price and you like them then get them. If you want the spectrum cloth then either get them recovered or keep looking for another set. They pop up from time to time.
I have the opportunity to buy a set of 1982 L/S seats in the charcoal color with the different headrests. They are in decent shape but not perfect. My Camaro is the base 1989 RS. I was looking for suggestions as to whether I should get them for my car. With that being said there are a couple of things I am not sure about.
1. The non matching headrests.
2. These do not have the 3 Camaro's on each seat.
3. These are not specifically for my year of car (Even though they will fit)
I would appreciate your coments.
My seats are bad. I would just like to get a decent set of seats for my car. There are a couple of very small holes but great compared to mine. And thanks for the advice subroc. I have greatly enjoyed reading yours and others comments on here regarding these seats and other interesting facts about these cars.
If they are in better shape than your current seats and you can get them cheap - the answer is obvious ! Add the fact that the LS seats are "special" and it's a no brainer. You HAVE to enjoy a firm seat to be comfortable in an LS buckets !! It's pretty firm seat compared to any other Camaro bucket !
The LS Passenger seat is not to be forgotten either. It may not have had the bolster, lumbar, or leg adjustments, but it was not a stock passenger seat either. The seat bottom had a lot of additional padding compared to a regular camaro seat. ( almost like a trans am lower seat cushion ) Look at "yoshirocks702" pictures on 07-04-2009 and you can see this "bulged" passenger seat bottom.
The LS Passenger seat is not to be forgotten either. It may not have had the bolster, lumbar, or leg adjustments, but it was not a stock passenger seat either. The seat bottom had a lot of additional padding compared to a regular camaro seat. ( almost like a trans am lower seat cushion ) Look at "yoshirocks702" pictures on 07-04-2009 and you can see this "bulged" passenger seat bottom.
Though I have twin L/S Conteurs, I'm unsure about their real origin--Theyr'e certainly not from a Camaro.
At any rate, both driver's and pass seats have uppper and lower bolsters, lumbar, and thigh adjustments. Pics can be seen in my Car Details below.
JamesC
Those look NEARLY identical to the pair I have from an '83 T/A. Mine have lighter side covers and the seatbelt guides. Yours are probably from a Pontiac 6000 STE, or some model of Sunbird. Do/did they have the flip-forward function in the recliner? If not, they would have been from a 4door model.
Well I got them. They are much better than they looked in the pics. There is a small dime sized hole in the drivers seat but it can easily be fixed. 50 bucks for both front and rear. I think I did okay. If anyone is interested in seeing them (for educational purposes)I will get some pics. I know for 100% sure that they came from an 82 Z28.
Those look NEARLY identical to the pair I have from an '83 T/A. Mine have lighter side covers and the seatbelt guides. Yours are probably from a Pontiac 6000 STE, or some model of Sunbird. Do/did they have the flip-forward function in the recliner?
They didn't originally. I swapped the recliners from the Camaro seats. Along the line, IIRC, another member suggested Sunbird seats.
JamesC
__________________ "There are more things in heaven and earth, Horatio, / Than are dreamt of in your philosophy." Hamlet
"Convictions are more dangerous enemies of truth than lies." Nietzsche
Well I got them. They are much better than they looked in the pics. There is a small dime sized hole in the drivers seat but it can easily be fixed. 50 bucks for both front and rear. I think I did okay. If anyone is interested in seeing them (for educational purposes)I will get some pics. I know for 100% sure that they came from an 82 Z28.
Kevin
I would like to see a picture that isnt in a brochure of them lol. Sounds like you got a damn good deal on them. You wont be sorry for that price.
I will get pics as soon as I can. They are still in my truck from picking them up last night. I havent even gotten a chance to get them out. I will also show you the hole and see if any of you know the best way to fix it.
Well I got the pics. Let meknow what you think. I didnt take pics of the backs but they are no different really. They just need to be cleaned up now. Any suggestions on the hole?
I think they are hard and uncomfortable. I have the base interior in my 86 iroc, and they are much more comfortable then my ls seats in my 84. Though they still do look cool.
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Originally Posted by John in RI
You HAVE to enjoy a firm seat to be comfortable in an LS buckets !! It's pretty firm seat compared to any other Camaro bucket !
I must agree that these seats are hard as a rock, and combine that with the z's stiff suspension, and it's not comfortable at all (for me anyways, like John said you have to enjoy firm seats). I'm sure these seats will absolutely shine on a race track, they do support you extremely well. But for comfort I agree that the base seats are hard to beat (i tried an 85 with the base seats). I still love these seats as they are quite unique and i get lots of compliments on them. You should also consider that camaro's are "sporty" cars so you can't expect a Cadillac ride...
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Originally Posted by kevmann
Well I got the pics. Let me know what you think. I didnt take pics of the backs but they are no different really. They just need to be cleaned up now. Any suggestions on the hole?
Those seats look really good, i love the colour!! give them a good wash they probably have never been shampooed for 27 years Can't wait for some pics when they are installed I'm not sure about the hole i think the best thing would be to get new fabric. Are the supplier's at the front of the thread still selling the fabric?
Well I got the pics. Let meknow what you think. I didnt take pics of the backs but they are no different really. They just need to be cleaned up now. Any suggestions on the hole?
Those look fantastic for how old they are. Good find. As for the fabric try the links and #s on the first post in this thread. That should get you started. Most upholstery shops should be able to just replace that one bolster since it seems the rest of them look pretty good. Might just need a light cleaning and good to go.
As far as them being firm....yea they are. Its just the way they are but id take that over the cush that is normal camaro seats. At first it may seem comfortable but after awhile my butt goes numb and lower back hurts (and im only 23). With these seats i have never had that happen. If i start to get uncomfortable i just turn a knob or two and im back to comfy.
This is a great post. I have the Briar Brown contour seats in in an 83 Z/28. Some one else said there were avail without the cutom interior. Sure enough that must be what I have, wish the door panels were on my car too.
WOW! Yours is the only other car I've seen with brown. I never saw another one like mine. I also had custom cloth, so it said it on the door panels also. My 84 was brown/brown, also didn't see that color combo.
I'll have to see if I still have any pics of the interior.
Insurance totaled it. When the rollback came, it fired right up and we drove on to the truck. At the body shop, it stayed there for about a month but they would start it up to move it out of the way. Then it went off to the junk yard, never could find out which one though.
That was back in 94, so its been over 15 years already...
In the '80's I just simply hated this interior. I thought it was gaudy and tasteless, and on top of that I really didn't even find the "Conteur" seats all that comfortable.
Now, that interior is a selling point when I'm looking at 3rd gens. Here's another irony. When new, I hated Crossfire because it was slow, couldn't beat a Mustang GT and it's worse sin - not available with a stick. Now I have one. And if I run across a blue CAMARO CAMARO CAMARO interior for it, I'll probably snag it too.
__________________ 1989 IROC-Z, LB9, T-5, 3.45 -- pretty fast
1983 Z/28, LU5, 700R4, 2.93 -- half fast
1985 IROC-Z, LB9, 700R4, 3.42 -- it's yellow
Not a "peanut cam" in the bunch.
Guys I located one of the Miss USA cars used which is the one I have known about for a long time. The car sat under a shed roof behind a house for years, then the house was torn down about 5 or 6 years ago, and I lost track of the car. After doing a vin search through a friend of mine I found the car was still registered in TN. Very rough as far as the interior goes, but overall the car is very solid. What surprised me is as rough as it is the t-tops do not leak! The floors in this thing were as dry as a hardtop car, and this thing sits outside all the time. It is for sale, and the owner wants $1500.00 firm for it. The engine is not original, but the top end has been gone through. It sounds good, but needs a carb, and a little tuning. The worst part of the car is the hood, it was a mint OEM fiberglass one until the owner cut a hole in it to put the Holley carb with a adapter on the engine. He did contact me yesterday and said he has the piece that was cutout. The rear end was swapped for one from an 89. The one thing that is missing is the Miss USA dash plaque which was on it when I last looked at it about 10 years ago. So here are a few pictures.......RatPack........
Notice that the interior trim code is 67E, which is the conteur seat in cloth, but not for one with custom interior as it has vinyl door panels......
Can't wait for some pics when they are installed 
I'm not sure about the hole i think the best thing would be to get new fabric. Are the supplier's at the front of the thread still selling the fabric? 
Not even that good of a pic but does show everything. 
