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Wow, its in NJ too. I could pick that up over the weekend if 300 members want to shell out $100! It would be a cool idea, I'm sure we'd get published on some magazine. If we could get 200-300 members to put in 100$ I would totally be down.
im curious to know how many people are watching the car in their ebay. im watching it just to see what its gonna go for, as im sure everybody here is. i just emailed him and asked how many people are actually watching the car, anybody wanna take a guess?
im curious to know how many people are watching the car in their ebay. im watching it just to see what its gonna go for, as im sure everybody here is. i just emailed him and asked how many people are actually watching the car, anybody wanna take a guess?
725 watchers. I am selling the car on eBay. I have gone through all these posts and appreciate all the comments although some are pretty negative. It is my feeling that if I made any attempt to clean or disturb this car in any way I would de-value it for the next owner. It is his choice how to properly bring this car back to showroom fresh. I am not a professional at that kind of stuff but what I am is an enthusiast, like you guys, and I would love for this car to go to the right owner. I welcome your questions.
I am from NJ where did you find that car? And whats the story with the Roadrunner behind it specs etc? Just wondering if I might have passed those trailers with no knowledge of what is in there. I am sure you might have seen that I am one of the ones that is not a big fan of the shape of the car. I can understand your point of view on not disturbing anything, but after sitting in questionable conditions for 23 years (not in climate controlled garage) then I am hard pressed to say that yes its worth a lot of money. I guess my feeling is that you found it when most of the third gens have only just started climbing back up in value thus if you kept it quiet for another oh lets say 25 years then it might be worth what some of the barn finds have been going for. Anyway good luck with the auction.
did u guys see the video on you tube? he found this thing in a old semi trailer his dad or grandpa put it in their brand new!! its an amazing video and find!!!
did u guys see the video on you tube? he found this thing in a old semi trailer his dad or grandpa put it in their brand new!! its an amazing video and find!!!
Its already been posted on the History/Restoration forums. Look several threads down from this one.
725 watchers. I am selling the car on eBay. I have gone through all these posts and appreciate all the comments although some are pretty negative. It is my feeling that if I made any attempt to clean or disturb this car in any way I would de-value it for the next owner. It is his choice how to properly bring this car back to showroom fresh. I am not a professional at that kind of stuff but what I am is an enthusiast, like you guys, and I would love for this car to go to the right owner. I welcome your questions.
If you don't end up getting a bid that you like, what will be your intentions with the car? Will you hold onto the car for several more years or maybe relist on ebay when this economy gets going again?
725 watchers. I am selling the car on eBay. I have gone through all these posts and appreciate all the comments although some are pretty negative. It is my feeling that if I made any attempt to clean or disturb this car in any way I would de-value it for the next owner. It is his choice how to properly bring this car back to showroom fresh. I am not a professional at that kind of stuff but what I am is an enthusiast, like you guys, and I would love for this car to go to the right owner. I welcome your questions.
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Whoever wins your auction and buys your Camaro, please try to make them aware of this website. I'm sure all would like to hear from the new owner, and kept aware of the status of the car. I'm sure additional photos, especially if it is cleaned up by the new owner, would be even more requested and welcome.
I am from NJ where did you find that car? And whats the story with the Roadrunner behind it specs etc? Just wondering if I might have passed those trailers with no knowledge of what is in there. I am sure you might have seen that I am one of the ones that is not a big fan of the shape of the car. I can understand your point of view on not disturbing anything, but after sitting in questionable conditions for 23 years (not in climate controlled garage) then I am hard pressed to say that yes its worth a lot of money. I guess my feeling is that you found it when most of the third gens have only just started climbing back up in value thus if you kept it quiet for another oh lets say 25 years then it might be worth what some of the barn finds have been going for. Anyway good luck with the auction.
The car is located in central NJ, but the trailer was tucked pretty discreetly. I realize it's gonna take work to get the car right but for the right person that will not matter.
If you don't end up getting a bid that you like, what will be your intentions with the car? Will you hold onto the car for several more years or maybe relist on ebay when this economy gets going again?
If it does not sell now I hope the exposure it's getting will put me in touch with the right buyer. If not, I'll hold on to it for a while.
Whoever wins your auction and buys your Camaro, please try to make them aware of this website. I'm sure all would like to hear from the new owner, and kept aware of the status of the car. I'm sure additional photos, especially if it is cleaned up by the new owner, would be even more requested and welcome.
Thanks.
Will do. Maybe the next owner is already a member!
The car is located in central NJ, but the trailer was tucked pretty discreetly. I realize it's gonna take work to get the car right but for the right person that will not matter.
Nice, I am sure if it was in northwestern NJ I would be banging my head on the wall for not finding it. Anyway that last sentence is definitely true some people will not care what they pay for it or what shape it is in. As I said earlier good luck with it. Anyway can we pry the reserve from you now?
Last edited by L695speed; 02-28-2009 at 07:09 PM.
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welcome to thirdgen!! gald to have you aboard this place.... do you know why the car was just put away and not enjoyed when it was brought from the factory???? as i read above it was your grandfathers??
I don't see the justification in selling for more than its actual price NEW.
I know its worth whatever a buyer will pay, which in this case wouldn't exceed half the price new, that's just me. I see it this way
You buy a car in 85, realizing crap, I cant pay for this car anymore, well Ill put it somewhere safe and secure until I can afford it again. (What I did with my IROC I have now, bought it but couldn't afford it so it sits).
Years go by and its forgotten, and in this time realizing the motor and such have been sitting and rotting, you just store longer hoping once again you can fix it but now needs a new motor and tires and such. (As I see rims and tires were supposed to be installed but never were, probably because he couldn't afford it after he trailered and stored it).
So now come 20+ years later and he still couldn't pay for it decides to sell it on ebay, realizing, it still only had 4.3 miles on it (technically doesn't mean anything because of all the rotting and corroding that has taken place over the years).
So all in all, I see this as a more worse condition than my sitting 89 124k IROC. WHICH CAN DRIVE and WILL DRIVE without swapping motors.
I don't need a dispute on this, I understand everyone does it, I have seen completely rusted to hell 67-69 camaros go for over 15k so..it isn't to bad.
I guess I'm saying I don't get how someone justifies THEMSELVES they should buy this car for over double the price it was new even though its in half or less condition as it was new...just because it says 4.3miles
welcome to thirdgen!! gald to have you aboard this place.... do you know why the car was just put away and not enjoyed when it was brought from the factory???? as i read above it was your grandfathers??
The car was not originally purchased by any of my family members, I have no idea where that came from. The story from the original owner was that the car was purchased new and was intended to be modified into a street racer. The wheels and tires were sold and the junk ones put on. Time and money constraints forced him to leave the car alone, untouched for all these years. Being in the right place at the right time liberated the car at this time.
[quote=I H8 WWD;4062587]"I don't see the justification in selling for more than its actual price NEW."
[quote=I H8 WWD;4052587]Law of supply and demand. Nobody's opinion matters except the buyer and the seller. The rest of us are just background noise. I will not buy it, but than I can't afford to buy it, and if I could manage to buy it, I do not have the time, skills, or resources to restore it. It will be great to see someone with the interest and the means bring it back to life.
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new to this site... really more of a 1st & 2nd gen. guy... but thought i would add to this post in order to guage some interest:
86 iroc z28, tpi / auto, 87 miles, original sticker still in window, all docs, needs nothing at all!!! considering the sale of this car in order to finish my 69 jl8 car... looking for 21k... otherwise i will probably just keep it...
opinions ???
Better deal than the four miler....though I can't afford this one either.....
new to this site... really more of a 1st & 2nd gen. guy... but thought i would add to this post in order to guage some interest:
86 iroc z28, tpi / auto, 87 miles, original sticker still in window, all docs, needs nothing at all!!! considering the sale of this car in order to finish my 69 jl8 car... looking for 21k... otherwise i will probably just keep it...
opinions ???
you have any pictures everybody would love to see this car
new to this site... really more of a 1st & 2nd gen. guy... but thought i would add to this post in order to guage some interest:
86 iroc z28, tpi / auto, 87 miles, original sticker still in window, all docs, needs nothing at all!!! considering the sale of this car in order to finish my 69 jl8 car... looking for 21k... otherwise i will probably just keep it...
opinions ???
post it in classified with pics. And is it 350 or 305?
Like I posted in the video thread...I bet it doesn't even hit reserve! Looks like I'm gonna be right with less than 2 hours to go. My guess is.... reserve is $30,000
Final Bid was $24,600 didn't meet the reserve and it didn't have a bidding frenzy at the end. My suspicion is people realized that the car might not be worth that much.
Actually it did pretty well considering there were no pix of it clean. I can't help but wonder how it would do with all the original pix as is now, plus a few of it after a quick gentle wash and with some correct IROC-Z rims/tires... I believe it would go past $25k easily at that point.
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Actually it did pretty well considering there were no pix of it clean. I can't help but wonder how it would do with all the original pix as is now, plus a few of it after a quick gentle wash and with some correct IROC-Z rims/tires... I believe it would go past $25k easily at that point.
I was suspecting that as well. If it had the original rims and a cleaning it would have done much better.
Actually it did pretty well considering there were no pix of it clean. I can't help but wonder how it would do with all the original pix as is now, plus a few of it after a quick gentle wash and with some correct IROC-Z rims/tires... I believe it would go past $25k easily at that point.
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I was suspecting that as well. If it had the original rims and a cleaning it would have done much better.
See, I don't think it would have done much better. Up to 25k? Sure. But I mean any idiot can clean and wax a car on their own and get a set of rims for a car and pop them on. That being said, if the reserve was 30k, do you think the people bidding on the car value a car wash and a set of rims/tires at $5,000? The value/history of the car outweighs the fact that it is dusty and has junk rims.
See, I don't think it would have done much better. Up to 25k? Sure. But I mean any idiot can clean and wax a car on their own and get a set of rims for a car and pop them on. That being said, if the reserve was 30k, do you think the people bidding on the car value a car wash and a set of rims/tires at $5,000? The value/history of the car outweighs the fact that it is dusty and has junk rims.
There's a lot of psychology in these EBay auctions. I agree, washing and mounting tires/rims wouldn't by itself be worth $5k to the serious buyer for this car. But it's not just about that, though. There's also the critical perception in their mind, that the car is worth something north of $24k. It's a lot more doable to visualize the car being worth a lot, if clean and with proper rims/tires.
I know that the owner wanted to leave it in as is condition, but really, the car should be prepped for sale and at least look presentable. He might not want to spend money on rims, but the car should be clean and shined all over, especially for the price he's asking. If hes not a detailer and doesn't wanna go that route, then even a good wash would help alot. Can't see what your buying through all that mess on it.
I know that the owner wanted to leave it in as is condition, but really, the car should be prepped for sale and at least look presentable. He might not want to spend money on rims, but the car should be clean and shined all over, especially for the price he's asking. If hes not a detailer and doesn't wanna go that route, then even a good wash would help alot. Can't see what your buying through all that mess on it.
I agree. Hell, even if he would invest 150$ / 200$ in a very good detailing job it would be very worth it.