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Originally posted by stuart69427 I like the red IROC Vert and those silver IROCs rule!
that wrecked iroc looks like that hurt :sad:
yes that dod hurt. my freind had disslocated his arm and i had glass cuts. the car came out far worse. it was a sad sad day witch had me pissed off for like the next 8 months until i bought my new 89 iroc.
word of advise, watch out for oil slicks
thanks
anthony
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__________________ Online Drag Racing -------Reaction Time Tester! Red 1982 Trans Am MSE Hooker 1 5/8 primaries, 3 inches back, 3:73s
Red 1990 Formula with ZZ4 motor, Hooker 2055s, American Thunder catback
Black 1991 GTA with 3 inch Flowmaster Catback system
Black 2002 WS6 Bone Stock
Originally posted by TTA850 1 of none to be correct,though some will disagree.All TTA convertables are aftermarket jobs done by the owners including pilot car #3 which is the car in that pic
New pic of #884 1 of 15 cloth/hardtops:
Steve
Since pilot car #3 was done BEFORE it was sold to the general public it is CONSIDERED to be the 1 of 1.
Although you are correct as other were done by the owners later.
__________________ 1989 20th Anniv Turbo Trans Am
Just a few new mods for 2002
Here's a picture of my old '79 T/A 6.6 (yes a 400 4 speed car) which had just 55K on it when I sold it. Though it appears to have T-tops, it did not. Nor did it have rain gutters like most every hardtop I've ever seen.
This is one of the best cars I've ever owned. I bought it with 35K in Lunenurg, MA back in '95 for $8K and drove it home to TN. My wife, two sons and I really loved that car. Still had its original AM/FM/CB radio and power antenna, both of which worked perfectly. It was blast talking to all the truckers during the 1,200 mile ride home. Pretty obvious to know when they were talking about my car as I was driving by. Surprised at least one or two when they heard me come over their CB back at 'em.
The couple I sold it to even contacted the original owners of the car back in NH and they wished that they never sold the car after owning it for nine years.
Enjoy!
Last edited by 88Stick350; 09-11-2002 at 02:24 PM.
Originally posted by shrp1 Since pilot car #3 was done BEFORE it was sold to the general public it is CONSIDERED to be the 1 of 1.
Although you are correct as other were done by the owners later.
Instead of arguing with you I'll just say we have completely different opinions on what is factory and what is aftermarket. But at least we can both agree TTA's are great cars
Steve
__________________ 2002 Trans Am WS6 - Sunset Orange Metallic - bolt ons - 243 heads - 224/230 cam
11.59@116 on motor - 10.95@122 on the jug 2011 Super Chevy Maple Grove True Street 12.00 Winner 2011 Tri Power Pontiac Nationals Chief Of The Pontiacs 2011 LSX Shootout True Street Challenge 12.00 Winner 1989 GTA - TTA 3.8 Turbo - 10.50@129 w/1.47 60ft - LSX replacement in the works / 1989 TTA #884 hardtop/cloth
Hi TransAm12sec,
Question. Why do you have regular Firebird center wheel caps on your car? Shouldn't you have the MR caps? Nice car by the way!!!!
Hi shrp1,
All the convertible conversions were done before they were sold to the public! Only the dealer could order these cars. ASC would not work with anyone else, but the dealers.
And, if it was a true 1 of 1, why does Pontiac not list it that way? I don't feel like arguing with people about this either. Either contact Pontiac or PHS and get their view. Mule cars start life out as other cars also. They are not true domumented cars either. Case in point. The 3.8 H.O. 20th Anniversary Turbo Trans Am. It started life out as a 1986 Trans Am. Thru the years, it was used for many different engineering projects. The final version-the conversion to a 20th Anniversary Turbo Trans Am to compete in the Car And Driver magazine manufacture's high speed shootout for 1989. Is it a true 20th TTA? No. Pontiac even says so. Would I love to own it? You bet!!!!
This isn't just my opinion, it's what Pontiac even says!
So.....just letting you know some facts, as stated by Pontiac Motor Division.
By the way, the Pilot car #3, which is now a convertible. It was a magazine test car also. I know, I got to test drive the car in 1988! It was not convertible then! And it was already assembled by both Pontiac and PAS. It was finished.
Not starting a flame war,
George
P.S. TTA's are great cars!!!
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1989 20th Anniv. Turbo Trans Am #231 (autographed by Emerson Fittapaldi in gold, winner of the 1989 Indy 500, on my dash panel glove pocket)
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Pontiac Firebird Trans Am 1969-1999 Photo Album
Pontiac Firebird 1967-2000 Photo History
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Magazines:
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Car Craft March 2000
You peaked my curiosity with your post. I own an '87 GTA vert and have been endlessly defending myself in the point that the ASC conversion was authorized through GM, and the public couldn't have this done. I know this to be true because I have had many conversations with ASC regarding this point. My question to you is, do you have any hard evidence to back this up. If you had the Pontiac order code for the vert it would be nice. According to Willie, the Camaro RPO code was Z08. Any info would be helpful. If you do a search you will see my number of posts on this subject. Thanks. Joe
Originally posted by Mr. TurboTA Hi TransAm12sec,
Question. Why do you have regular Firebird center wheel caps on your car? Shouldn't you have the MR caps? Nice car by the way!!!!
Thanks, I have the chrome Mecham Racing Hubcaps, but only three. Thats the way my sister got the car a couple of years ago. They are in the trunk along with two Ebacih springs. I had to replace the front springs, and you can only buy a 4 pack of them. I want to find a remake of one, but have yet to look.
__________________ Online Drag Racing -------Reaction Time Tester! Red 1982 Trans Am MSE Hooker 1 5/8 primaries, 3 inches back, 3:73s
Red 1990 Formula with ZZ4 motor, Hooker 2055s, American Thunder catback
Black 1991 GTA with 3 inch Flowmaster Catback system
Black 2002 WS6 Bone Stock
Hi TransAm12sec!
I happen to have a couple of really great condition MSE chrome wheel center caps for sale if you need. They look new. Email me at: WarbirdTA@hotmail.com
if you are intrested. I'll email you back within a day or so (I've got a birthday party today to go to, and a wedding tomorrow).
Later,
George
__________________ Go for the top of the food chain, and run wild!
1989 20th Anniv. Turbo Trans Am #231 (autographed by Emerson Fittapaldi in gold, winner of the 1989 Indy 500, on my dash panel glove pocket)
Featured in:
Books:
Pontiac Firebird Trans Am 1969-1999 Photo Album
Pontiac Firebird 1967-2000 Photo History
Firebird Trans Am by David Newhardt
Magazines:
Smoke Signals Sept 1993
Car Craft March 2000
Originally posted by 84 Challenge Is that an Iron Duke?
um.....no, 350 I believe. They were trying to break 200 miles per hour with the car. They got to 190 or even over 200 or something on this road out in the desert. Sweet!!!
Originally posted by Krazzycowgirl one of 901 1987 Irocs made with the Auto rear view mirror. one less after last year when my husbands 87 iroc was totaled out.
This is mine
Hmm, I knew that was rare, I have one as well, just not something I thought was "worthwhile" kind-of-rare.
Boy it sure is amazing how many people have rare and unusual cars on this board
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Originally posted by CDN_87IROC Anyone have more info on that banks twin turbo?
Its really fast and shiny.
__________________ Online Drag Racing -------Reaction Time Tester! Red 1982 Trans Am MSE Hooker 1 5/8 primaries, 3 inches back, 3:73s
Red 1990 Formula with ZZ4 motor, Hooker 2055s, American Thunder catback
Black 1991 GTA with 3 inch Flowmaster Catback system
Black 2002 WS6 Bone Stock
__________________ Online Drag Racing -------Reaction Time Tester! Red 1982 Trans Am MSE Hooker 1 5/8 primaries, 3 inches back, 3:73s
Red 1990 Formula with ZZ4 motor, Hooker 2055s, American Thunder catback
Black 1991 GTA with 3 inch Flowmaster Catback system
Black 2002 WS6 Bone Stock
Originally posted by CDN_87IROC Anyone have more info on that banks twin turbo?
For 10 years, Banks held the unbroken record for World's Fastest Passenger Car ó an 1800-hp twin-turbo Firebird that blistered the Bonneville Salt Flats in 1987 and took the championship. This "stock-body door-slammer with optional tilt-wheel, power windows and AM-FM with cassette" ran 287 miles an hour, burning nothing but straight gasoline. From: http://www.bankspower.com/bio.cfm
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00 GTP - Faster then the T/A was
this is my firebird a ' 91 firebird there are a few mods that have been made to the car Exhaust/wheels/engine/interior and the roll bar is custom and hand made by me a friend made the cover for the roll bar
I have the same car as 88Stick350. Pretty rare car, don't see too many with the 400/4spd anymore. Only 1,107 made, too! Fun cars to drive, I love mine!
Originally posted by TransAm12sec 82 Trans Am Motor Sports Edition. #34 of 150.
Nice car! By the way they made 500, not 150. Great car,
GT
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1985 base Firebird, LB8/F41/GU6/DE1, '82 T/A wheels, CB, 153k
1982 Norwood Recaro LU5/WS4/WS6/Y84, 3466 original miles
1984 Firebird S/E HO V6, LL1/WS6, 114k, sold 5/02, repo 9/02, kennedy
(1982 Trans Am WS7, GM Goodwrench 5.7L, T-10, daily driver, 88k)
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When I was around 12, the previous owner my sister got it from had a license plate that said 34 of 150. Thats been stuck in my head for some time and its hard to forget. 500 were made in 82, Dennis Mecham told me 50 of em were red. It may just be my imagination but the car on ebay looks higher then other MSEs. If you ordered Ebach springs that lower the car 1-2 inches, that would be the ride height of one. In my pic, ebaich springs are in the front with the stock springs in the back.
__________________ Online Drag Racing -------Reaction Time Tester! Red 1982 Trans Am MSE Hooker 1 5/8 primaries, 3 inches back, 3:73s
Red 1990 Formula with ZZ4 motor, Hooker 2055s, American Thunder catback
Black 1991 GTA with 3 inch Flowmaster Catback system
Black 2002 WS6 Bone Stock
Originally posted by IROCZTWENTYGR8 ES87iroc, can you tell me what kind of tires you got and the specs of them??
They are Dunlop SP Sport 5000 245/50/ZR16. They are ZR/WR rated, which IIRC is good for 180+ mph. Like the car will ever hit that speed. :sillylol: They are great tires tough, I am very happy with them. They are pretty much toast at this point, I got about 30k miles out of them. I was not exactly nice to them, either. -VERY- smokey tire, though! I would defiently buy them again. They are around $150 or so each at NTB, but I got mine at www.tirerack.com for $100 each, totalling $442 shipped! (About 2.5 years ago, I think it's still the same though) HTH!
Yeah, I'm new here and want to present my wheels for consideration, although I put the pics on a different thread..it's still a unique 1 of 6000 odd 89 converts made from what I hear so far. Hopefully you guys can help me narrow the mystery
It's dual exhaust 350 tuned port and auto shifting with manual drop top and custom paint. Gray cloth interior as well.
This is a 1991 Z28 350CID with a 700r4 auto trans. 1LE car. Apparently 1 of 175 made with this engine combo. Not sure what number but if anyone can tell me how I can find out I would much appreciate it. Thanks.
Here is picture of one of my cars, 1991 Firehawk #003:
I have a 1992 Trans Am GTA too but that's not rare enough to bother posting a picture of, same for my 84 15th Annv.
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I have always wanted a 1992 Firehawk-the best Firehawk I think..........I see another thread starting! 92GTA, #003?!?!:hail: Awesome! I can't believe you have a 15th too!
I saw a hardtop convertable in Corpus Christi, Texas once. I have no idea how rare they are though. BTW, this thing was being street driven , i didn't see it at a show
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My two dream cars are the 1988 Callaway Corvette Sledgehammer, and a 91 hawk. How hard was it to find the firehawk?
__________________ Online Drag Racing -------Reaction Time Tester! Red 1982 Trans Am MSE Hooker 1 5/8 primaries, 3 inches back, 3:73s
Red 1990 Formula with ZZ4 motor, Hooker 2055s, American Thunder catback
Black 1991 GTA with 3 inch Flowmaster Catback system
Black 2002 WS6 Bone Stock
Last edited by TransAm12sec; 10-16-2002 at 06:32 PM.
1987 Camaro Sport Coupe Convertible
"20th Anniversary Commemorative Edition"
1 of 263 produced
Of the 744, approximately 650 had the IROC-Z option. Mine does not. Including mine, there are 12 verified to exist. Of the 12, only two have the 305 TPI/5-speed. Mine is one of the two. [/b][/quote]
I have a 1987 Z28 not Iroc with a 350 TPI Auto. it is Red W/ T-tops. Where is the production #? I know it is a 20 ann. BEcause i have the baging.
Here's my 84 Recaro T/A 1 of 1,321.It's not very rare and lately there are few 84 Recaro's poping up here and there but i didn't see any 84 with leather Recaro seats yet so i'm assuming that's a rare option.I'm still in progress of restoring the car and gathering information about it.
Tongi,
I don't ever remember seeing a '84 Recaro Trans Am with those front grilles! Were they on the car when you bought it??? Plus, all of the 1984 Recaro Edition Trans Ams had the leather. The 15th Anniversary trans Ams had the leather/cloth Recaros.
92TransAm,
I like the station wagon look! Heck, even BMW did it! I sure could put a ton of stuff in the back, if I had that option! I really loved the same thing that was done to the fourth gen Trans Am-The Hurst Hauler! I even got to drive the Hauler!! What a trip!!!
Later,
George
__________________ Go for the top of the food chain, and run wild!
1989 20th Anniv. Turbo Trans Am #231 (autographed by Emerson Fittapaldi in gold, winner of the 1989 Indy 500, on my dash panel glove pocket)
Featured in:
Books:
Pontiac Firebird Trans Am 1969-1999 Photo Album
Pontiac Firebird 1967-2000 Photo History
Firebird Trans Am by David Newhardt
Magazines:
Smoke Signals Sept 1993
Car Craft March 2000
I love the eyecandy!
Want to hear more on those Bonneville racers! Is the 300MPH a record? Who beat the 'Birds??
I didn't do any 'homework' as I was busy with car repair and work.
The 1984 Recaros (Y84) were leather as pointed out in the FB Redbook and there were 'about' 1500 15th anniversary TAs made.
Originally posted by Mr. TurboTA Tongi,
I don't ever remember seeing a '84 Recaro Trans Am with those front grilles! Were they on the car when you bought it??? Plus, all of the 1984 Recaro Edition Trans Ams had the leather. The 15th Anniversary trans Ams had the leather/cloth Recaros.
You're right there shouldn't be any grills but the car had an accident from the front and they changed the nose i guess.If you look at the left headlight it's not sitting correctly.And i prefer the grills and i love the look.I'm gonna keep the car stock except the grills. I don't have the original stop lights with blackout either.I guess it's from a base firebird with a silver bird.So i assume it had an accident from the back too.I don't have any hub caps and i also don't have any of the emblems either.And i saw some other Recaro T/A's at Kizz's Recaro website and most of them had cloth Recaro seats.And i saw few Recaros for sale on e-bay and all of them had cloth seats.That's why i thought it was rare.It's not that i knew it for sure.When i first got the car i wasn't sure if it was original recaro because i didn't had the center arm rest so i didn't had the codes and thanks to kizz he explained many stuff about my car.Then i checked some stuff that recaros had to have, they were all there.15" rims, front and rear sway bars, front and rear disk brakes, posi, L69 H.O. engine etc...Even if it wasn't a recaro i would keep the car because i love everything about this car and i bought it really cheap.It's not in prefect condition but it runs stong and only interior is in pretty bad shape.The dealer didn't know it was Trans-Am he realized when i was checking the car and he told me he won't raise the price for me if i buy it but he said if you won't i'm gonna raise the price.Next day when i went to the place the new price was already there but he kept his promise.So i just got lucky and the car was an original recaro with the front grills that i love.
i saw some other Recaro T/A's at Kizz's Recaro website and most of them had cloth Recaro seats.And i saw few Recaros for sale on e-bay and all of them had cloth seats.That's why i thought it was rare.It's not that i knew it for sure.When i first got the car i wasn't sure if it was original recaro because i didn't had the center arm rest
I don't see options like T-top quantities as confirmed in a prior post, but the Redbook lists the Recaro option at a cost of $1,621 so I'm sure there weren't too many of the 55,374 produced that year!
Originally posted by Bill Speed
[b]I don't see options like T-top quantities as confirmed in a prior post, but the Redbook lists the Recaro option at a cost of $1,621 so I'm sure there weren't too many of the 55,374 produced that year!
hehe
Bill
If you check the production numbers of f-bodies in the main page (under techincal data)it says 1,321 Recaro's were made in '84.That's where i got the number.