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Old 12-01-2002, 01:38 PM   #1
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If you have a Players Challenge Car, please post here. (RPO- A4Q, A4U, or R7U)

Howdy,

If you have what you think or know to be a genuine players challenge car, please post your info here.

I am collecting as much information about the series and the cars as I can. I'll be adding it to my web page as I collect info for all to enjoy.

Hot items: How many players cars were produced each year?




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Old 10-04-2005, 01:14 AM   #2
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I have one! well 2
anyone else?!
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Old 10-26-2005, 06:20 PM   #3
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heres mine. Mark zz3 already looked mine up as did soundwave83 so i believe mine to be genuine heres my vi as well:
1G1FP21F2KL******
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Old 02-11-2006, 09:18 AM   #4
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I remember driving one of these cars back in 1991 after graduating college. I worked at a independent used car dealer in Toronto Ontario (at Allen Road and Sheppard). A wholesaler brought one in that he picked up to sell to us. It was repainted red, with a tan interior sloppily put in, and had a Audiovox stereo stuffed in the dash. That balanced and blueprinted 305 TPI and 5 speed was faster and more fun to drive than the Corvette's on the lot. I remember the stubs or the roll cage evidence of the cage being chopped out. I think it was a Don Howsen dealership car.I really wanted to buy that car, but couldn't afford it. It was $3000. I couldn't afford it because i had just a week before bought a 69 cutlass Convertible. That car really sucked.
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Old 02-11-2006, 03:38 PM   #5
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I've been collecting a few Player's Challenge things as for late. For those interested:

Player's Advertizing

GM Ads

Racing schedules and Car info (neat!)

Pictures of cars and drivers (1987-1990)

Lost more coming.

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Old 02-12-2006, 07:02 PM   #6
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that is some awesome info mark, it was neat to look up some of the pics i have on my computer and see who was driving the cars. like this one, looks like Howie Scannel lost in it in the turn and Peter Cohen nearly misses him.
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Old 02-13-2006, 01:49 PM   #7
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I believe I have an 88 1LE?

How can I tell for sure is there something special in the vin?
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Marks got great info on this stuff, theres also a complete board on my forum for players junk, check it out @ vancouverfbody.com we've all learned a lot from each other!
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Old 02-13-2006, 07:01 PM   #9
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Re: I believe I have an 88 1LE?

If you PM me your VIN, I can tell you if it falls in the range of a Player's car. The other way is to check your RPO's ... look for A4U for a 1988 car.

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Old 03-13-2006, 02:28 PM   #10
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Mark, do you know of any 1991 to 1992 R7U cars for sale? One day I would to get one to go with my B4C's.
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Old 03-13-2006, 07:45 PM   #11
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I come across a few once and a while. Nothing jumps out right now. Camaro or Trans Am? Race trim or street trim? Racing history or unraced?

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Mark, do you know of any 1991 to 1992 R7U cars for sale? One day I would to get one to go with my B4C's.
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Either or really but would probably prefer Camaro. Race trim or street, dont really care. Hell, a slighty damaged one too maybe. Just really like the history of these cars and how popular they were up North vs down here. Actually, there is a 1991 R7U on ebay right now. Do you know anything about that one? Search under 1LE.
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Old 03-13-2006, 09:15 PM   #13
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Check out my posting ... one is on ebay.
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Old 03-19-2006, 04:58 PM   #14
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hey guys.

I know that Camaro 1LE that's currently on ebay. My friend was the second owner when he had purchased it in 1996 and sold it in 1998, which he regrets now. The original motor had been modified with cam and other things, it had no cat's, and it ran very rich. He had tinted the windows as well. The car had low km's on it when my friend aquired it. I am not sure about the km's that is advertised now on ebay. I was very suprised that this car is still around the toronto area.

Well, I thought that I would share this with you.

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Old 06-08-2006, 06:14 AM   #15
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Benny,

Was your friends R7U a white one?

I just found this thread while looking for something else. I bought a white R7U recently.

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Old 06-13-2006, 04:16 PM   #16
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HeySteve,

Yes, my friend's was a white R7U car. Did you purchase yours on e-bay?

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Old 06-17-2006, 08:21 AM   #17
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Benny,

Nice meeting you at the OCC Nationals.

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Old 06-24-2006, 08:08 AM   #18
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Steve,

Nice meeting you as well.

Do you go to any cruises?
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Old 07-01-2006, 08:12 PM   #19
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Hey Mark whats shakin?

I had my Players car running today MUAHH!!!! I love it i love it.

I havent had it running since last fall and although the battery was dead it fired right up with a boost. I didnt take it out though as it has a flat tire. I tried inflating it but she went down as fast i could give it to her so I had to settle for acoustic joy today but it was fun nonetheless. Man that thing runs strong WHOOOT!@@

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Old 07-02-2006, 01:23 PM   #20
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Howdy. Glad to hear you car is out. Mine are both sitting. Fired them up in February during our warm winter. Need to start wrenching on one of them ... full restoration. Got new 1LE brakes in a box (from GM show car). And a few other goodies.

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Old 07-23-2006, 10:52 PM   #21
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Haha,

Yeah. My dad has one (NomadTA). I love that car and everything about it. Its never been raced though, never had a cage in it either. As far as we know GM used it for some promotional deal, then a dealer bought 5 of them. Dont know all the owners of the car, but it started with the 305(as all the 91 R7U's) and now it has a 350.

Does anyone know if all the 91 R7U cars were white?

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Old 07-23-2006, 10:57 PM   #22
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Hi,

I think I've spoke with your Dad. The car came out of Winnipeg if memory serves me.

As to colors of cars. That was about the only choice when picking R7U. Many cars were white as they were the easiest to paint. In the early days, there was quite a mix of red, blue, yellow, white, black, etc. In the later days, white and black became quite common.

I don't have the breakdown on colors. It's a rather difficult item to clarify. I have a listing of all cars from 1990 which I am using to try and find out things such as color variation. It takes time ... well it takes ME time.

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the VIN is:

1G1FP23F3ML17***7

Dont know if that helps

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Old 09-28-2006, 12:41 AM   #24
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Right here I own a 91 Z28,1LE,R7U.
as far as i can tell it was unraced but is in excpetional condition.
I bought it Feb 14th,2005 and im the 3rd owner


1991 Chevrolet Camaro - Chris's Chevrolet

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Old 11-06-2006, 06:19 PM   #25
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Yes ive got one 1992 z-28
i need to get the vin for you
i can tell you it was the championship car
sponsered by pringles
Broke all the records most wins, most poles, most fastest laps,
most consecutive wins etc for the whole series history.
it has been in storage for 9 years.
only 2 bangs on it very small never changed a panel , which was very rare.
ill try to get the vin
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Yes ive got one 1992 z-28
i need to get the vin for you
i can tell you it was the championship car
sponsered by pringles
Broke all the records most wins, most poles, most fastest laps,
most consecutive wins etc for the whole series history.
it has been in storage for 9 years.
only 2 bangs on it very small never changed a panel , which was very rare.
ill try to get the vin
Got pics? vids? Sounds cherry
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Old 11-07-2006, 07:28 AM   #27
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Yes ive got one 1992 z-28
i need to get the vin for you
i can tell you it was the championship car
sponsered by pringles
Broke all the records most wins, most poles, most fastest laps,
most consecutive wins etc for the whole series history.
it has been in storage for 9 years.
only 2 bangs on it very small never changed a panel , which was very rare.
ill try to get the vin
Did you get the car recently or have you had it for a while?

How did you end up getting the car?

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Old 11-07-2006, 08:11 PM   #28
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Well I picked the car up at Bob johnston chev olds in 1992.
Got it through Jim Duckworth who was part owner then and his son Paul Duckworth also ran in the series. allot of cars came from that dealership.
Then I drove it to the championship.
car did not come with a cage. It was put in at CSC racing products in north toronto along with the fire bottle, seat.
Also another way to tell if they are real players cars with the engines are the yellow paint seals everyone has talked about. There was also wire seals I believe and iam very sure there was ultraviolit (sorry for the spelling) paint seals as well that you needed a blacklight to check.
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Old 11-07-2006, 10:05 PM   #29
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It is a pleasure to have an owner/driver on the boards. It's not often this happens. Welcome!

Your 92 was one of the lowest production years for Player's cars, and it also probably still has it's original motor (which is nice for collectors). It's good to hear that there is still a few original cars around. Many were converted to full race, and others ended up on the street.

I'm sure many people would be interested in hearing details about your car. How it was ordered, what prep work was done when you got it, the race chip, and so on.

Mark.
PS. your correct on the ultaviolet paint. I spoke to one of the chief tech inspectors and he still had his bottles of paint (to reseal the engines).

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