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Old 01-19-2004, 03:08 AM   #151
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Hey Jenn, I just wanted to say thanks for all the hard work. I didn't put in a request (the RPO's are good enough for me), but I may some day. I just wanted to say that I appreciate all the time you are taking to help out the 3rd Gen Community. Thanks!! Oh, and congrats on the baby!!
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I got my invoices last week, and I needed to say once again THANKS Bunches...

One thing I found out... Both of my cars were made within DAYS of each other... 6-24-87 & 6-26-87 were the ship dates... BUT the kicker is they were shipped from different factories... Pretty neat... And if you ever wondered Norwood OH had a higher production number than the Van Nuys production number even tho the Norwood car was shipped first...

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I've added yet another request to the seemingly endless string of emails you must be getting. No rush here... your hard work and attention is really appreciated by all us thirdgen nerds. Thanks a bunch!! :hail:
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LOL I wouldn't say the ThirdGenners are NERDS... I would just say "VERY devoted enthusiasts"...

Can we change the name to Third-Jenn? Just a thought...
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Just wanted to say thanks as mine came in the mail today. Wasn't exactly as I was expecting because its kind of weird.

Has my real VIN(1G5 instead of 1G2) and the two options available but has the LC2 as a 5.0 TPI deduct. Which is probably how it left the factory before being converted into a TTA.

I knew the anniversary option was 10K and the invoice proved that
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Hey JennKstep I have a question for you, I special factory ordered my Z28 in 85 but lost the original paperwork over the years, will the invoice show my name as a special order Thanks
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Hey Shawn!

Sometimes they would add the person's name to the invoice, but sometimes they wouldn't. Sorry, I know that's not a very scientific answer. I can look it up for you though; just shoot me an e-mail to jennifer.knightstep@gm.com.

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Hey Jenn! I just thought I'd let you know that I got mine yesterday and that I sent you my brother's VIN and info on his '84 T/A.
I found out that my car was ordered from a dealership(Davidson Chevrolet-Buick,Inc.) in Booneville,Mississippi...just a state over from mine..

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Thanks for the quick response I aready sent the info but I sent it to the gmma.research address I will assume that that will get to you also Thanks again
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I got an email today from Jenn, they found my invoice, cant wait to get it. I hope it wont take so long for it to reach Sweden.
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Hey Jenn, I sent my request a couple of days ago to the GMMA e-mail address. Is that ok? Are you still going to get it or do I need to send it to your other e-mail address? Thanks again Jenn for all of your hard work. We appreciate it. :hail:
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Good morning!

wills83z28cfi: I do still monitor both inboxes, so if you sent a request to either one, I ought to have gotten it. From what addy did you send your request?

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PS: I've noticed a LOT of requests recently don't include a mailing address. PLEASE include this with your VIN, make, and model year. Thanks!
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I did find out something interesting, though. Apparently our collection of invoices for Firebird isn't complete. There doesn't seem to be a pattern for what's "missing", though: I can't pin down any specific years or anything. The ones I'm mising, though, Jim Mattison at PHS has, I'm sure. I've been sending e-mails to those unlucky few who I don't have, but in case anyone needs it, PHS can be reached at www.phs-online.com.
I wonder what are the odds are that out of 7 Trans Ams, only one came up? On the one, I did notice something interesting; it was shipped a 1-1/2 months after I picked it up from the dealer. And yes, the VIN was correct. Thanks anyhow Jenn.
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The things is, PHS was supposed to only get COPIES of what we have, but for some reason, there are a lot we don't have that PHS does. I'm not pointing fingers or anything like that, but I acn't even figure out which ones we DON'T have until I look for them. Weird. Anyway, I'm sorry we don't have the rest of your invoices. You can always get them from PHS; maybe he'll give you a bulk-rate discount
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hey jennkstep thanks for takeing time to do this for all of us its really cool i have a question i dont mean to rush you or anything i know how long it takes to get the invoice i was just woundering how mine was coming along dont rush take your time my e-mail address is snoopdoge4@earthlink.net thanks for all of your help
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Hi Jon!

Yes, I got your request on 12-15. I sent it to the micro-film lab on 1-14. It's currently taking anywhere from four to six weeks to get it back from microfilm. It took a month to get it to micro-film b/c I can only send 11 requests per day...

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Hey Jenn How are ya today?? Hows the pregnancy going?? I have a question for ya..I recieved my invoice a few days ago and was wondering .On the invoice there is a blacked out spot where it says keys..Would this be my replacement key code?? Thanks again................ :hail: :hail: :hail: :lala:
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Hi qiker!

Yup, that's the replacement key code. We have to black them out for "security" reasons. Wouldn't want someone pretending to be qiker getting their hands on your key codes, and swiping your car.

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Oh ok cool.......Have a great day.......
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thanks alot your the best take your time thanks again
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I figured that too about the key codes, I looked at it and wondered for a second... then ok, yeah, it makes sence anyone with a VIN could contact wonderful Jenn and get the keycode...

Wouldnt matter to me since I had to change my ignition key anyway...

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Good morning!

wills83z28cfi: I do still monitor both inboxes, so if you sent a request to either one, I ought to have gotten it. From what addy did you send your request?

Jennifer

PS: I've noticed a LOT of requests recently don't include a mailing address. PLEASE include this with your VIN, make, and model year. Thanks!
Jenn, I sent my request from willyum3dell@netzero.net
I sent it to your GMMA research e-mail address. Please let me know if I need to send my request to you again. I did include my mailing address and all other info you need. Thanks again Jenn!:yourock:
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Hmm...I don't see it...can you send it again, this time to my own e-mail? jennifer.knightstep@gm.com. Thanks!
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Hi Jenn.. I'm just seeing and looking at this thread today and hope I haven't missed the boat on being able to obtain original documentation for my car.

I hope I'm not too late to get in on this. I'm composing an email to you now.

This is a Godsend that you're doing this for us 3rd Genners.

Thank you again,

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Hmm...I don't see it...can you send it again, this time to my own e-mail? jennifer.knightstep@gm.com. Thanks!
Ok Jenn I sent the message again to your e-mail address you gave me. Let me know if there is any problems. My e-mail is
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I got my invoice, Thanks !

Please support Jenns efforts by visiting:

http://www.gmphotostore.com/source/Home.aspx

Heck even buy a few things if you really want to give back

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Thanks for the plug, Don...every little bit helps. I know there aren't a whole lot of Third Gens on the site, but I am trying to get more added.
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No no thank you....While your here.....my invoice does not show RPO AS5 for the Recaro seats....Although my SPID and cowl tag do......I wanted extra backup on the seats and was going to (finally) order PHS docs.

If you both have the same info it looks like I would not find what I need there either.

Any comments: Anyone? Is the AS5 included in the B20 ?

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Hmm...I wonder if maybe the invoice just doesn't show it? If anyone else with that same option ordered an invoice from me, please check the invoice and see if the option is listed on the invoice.
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No no thank you....While your here.....my invoice does not show RPO AS5 for the Recaro seats....Although my SPID and cowl tag do......I wanted extra backup on the seats and was going to (finally) order PHS docs.

If you both have the same info it looks like I would not find what I need there either.

Any comments: Anyone? Is the AS5 included in the B20 ?

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What is the price listed on your invoice for the B20 Luxury Trim Group?
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Thanks for the plug, Don...every little bit helps. I know there aren't a whole lot of Third Gens on the site, but I am trying to get more added.
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:hail: Even better get a 82-84 Trans Am Added :hail:

:hail: Or even better a 1982 Recaro T/A :hail:
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What is the price listed on your invoice for the B20 Luxury Trim Group?
Invoice for RPO B20 $845

Retail $995

This is confirmed in Standard Catalog of Firebird 1967-2002 by John Gunnell

The B20 Luxury Trim Group for a 1985 Trans Am includes "luxury front and rear seats, luxury doors, color keyed seatbelts, split folding rear seat, map pockets, carpeted cowl kick panel and adjustable Recaro bucket seats with Pallex cloth trim ($995)".

I appears the B20 could include any seat style with leather, leather / pallex, or pallex
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I got mine in the mail today, thanks alot Jenn for all the hard work.

Somebody payed 17830 dollars for my car, sold at Gary Fronrath florida. That explains the window sticker and dealer plate ive got from gary fronrath.

The car came to Sweden by boat in late 1991 .

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You're welcome, Scania! From what I understand, that dealership is still operating in Florida.
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You're welcome, Scania! From what I understand, that dealership is still operating in Florida.
Im trying to find them but they dont seem to have a website or e-mail. Anyone got it?

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I've found this on Yahoo Yellow Pages:

Fronrath No Risk Used Cars & Trucks
Address: 2605 S Federal Hwy Delray, Delray Beach, FL
Phone: (561) 930-2605

I've also found this link: http://autopedia.com/DlrsFL/Chevr_FLdlrs.html

And this (maybe they sell Chevy and Jeep-Eagle?):
Gary Fronrath Jeep-Eagle
1350 North Federal Highway
Ft. Lauderdale, FL 33304-1428
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SCANIA:

Gary Fronrath Chevolet in Delray Beach was "Assimulated" by the 500 lb Gorilla of new car dealerships called MAROONE.
A variety of Fronrath dealerships has been around Florida for decades. Try the Maroone website.

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OK im going to try the maroon website otherwise i guess i have to write them a letter.
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Got my invoice today!!! Thanks Jenn!!

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heyy jenn just wanted to say thanks i just got my invoice today, i have one question tho what does the hp and sw mean?



is it horsepower and weight?
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Hey Jim! I'm not sure what any of the codes mean, unfortunately. We never got any back-up documentation, but I think you're right.
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if is is horsepower at 215 on the invoice, either it's not right or the tech article is wrong. The car was ordered in 11/85 and is titled/vin says 1986, in 85 the car was 215hp in 86 it was 190hp, i have the 4500-5000 tach, not the 5000-5500 tach, and i have an auto transmission. I had looked up the block id before and it came up as 1986 305 FI 1-Piece rear main Non-Roller. I'm so confused
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Old 01-27-2004, 07:42 AM   #195
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HP probably doesn't mean horsepower then. It would be odd to include something like that on the invoice. I'll see if I can find out what it means.
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thanks jenn, it is funny tho that it would have that specific number there, a weird coincidence
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jenn, sent you an e-mail today, thankyou so much for providing this, and i will understand if i don't get it till march. i bought this thing in July and have always wondered where it came from, i purchased it in klamath fals oregon and drove it home to portland, i was told it was stock firebird, but it's been repainted, from grey i think, and, did thoss ugly wheels come with it?, heck, might have even been a camaro at one point, who knows, i know the front end has been replaced, that would be funny wouldent it? anyway, i am rambling, long story short thanks. :hail: :hail: :hail: :hail: :hail: :hail: :hail: :hail:
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Old 01-27-2004, 08:46 AM   #198
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I just wanted to say greetings! to all of the ThirdGenners from Sweden! I must admit I am truly surprised at how many requests I have gotten from Sweden. I didn't realize these vehicles were so popular there!

One note: many of the collectors submitting VINs from Sweden have not been including the entire VIN; there appear to be characters missing from the front part of the VIN. Also, pleae note that I am a girl, not a "sir", so you don't have to address your messages "dear sir"

Thanks so much!

And hey, those guys in the U.S., I do need your mailing addresses. I hate to be a brat, but if I see one more message without a mailing address, I'm just goin' to start deleting the ones without all the info I need. Well, I'll THINK about deleting them. I'm such a softie...
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Maybe I ought to be more specific. This is what an ideal request will look like:


"Dearest Jenn,

Please send me the invoice for my 198X Camaro/Firebird. My VIN is: (Insert COMPLETE, CORRECT VIN).

My mailing address is:

F-Body Enthusiast
Street Address
City, State ZIP

Thank you, Jenn! You are a wonderful human being and are an asset to General Motors and the world in general!"



Hey, a girl can hope!

Send your e-mail to me at jennifer.knightstep@gm.com. If for some reason, it doesn't go through, then send it to gmma.research@gm.com. I check both e-mail boxes.

Anyway, that's the info I need. I can understand confusing an "8" with a "B" in your VIN, but I can't understand forgetting to include the VIN entirely... also, please don't ask me "when can I expect to get my invoice?" because unfortunately, I really don't know. It's taking about 5 weeks to get them out. Please don't send messages to check the status of your request; I'll shoot you an e-mail as soon as I have your invoice (or as soon as I know where it is, if I don't have it). If a couple of months go by and you don't have your invoice, then feel free to e-mail me to check the status. Otherwise, please don't. It's too daunting.

Also, for those lucky fellas (and ladies) who already have their invoices...yay! I just wanted to note that I have been crossing out the key codes so no-one can make off with your treasured, carefully restored vehicle. I'd feel horrible if that happened. Just wanted to let you guys know why I've been getting rid of that info.

OK, that said, if I get any more messages without ALL of the info I need, I'm going to reply to ask for what I need, but the request is getting bumped to the back of the line. It's only fair to the guys who took the time to include all of their info in their first message. right?

If this message sounds snotty, please don't take it that way. I'm smiling as I'm typing. Sometimes I even giggle.
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Jenn-
Confusing an "8" with a "B" now who would do that? Ummmm it wasn't me..... I kinda feel like an idiot now. I was trying to write it down real quick cause it was cold in the garage and the lighting was so good.... Let's see there's a few more excuses... I didn't have my glasses, it was 2:00 am. The dog was bothering me.... HAHAHAH just kidding.

Jenn you are the greatest EVER. You should be promoted to VP of GM at once! With a huge chocolate pension plan.

Again, thanks for the reply email, and I really don't care how long it takes. We all appreciate having someone on the "inside" hooking us up with the info..

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