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Old 04-30-2006, 01:11 AM   #151
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Nope not the owner. Just this thread starter. Do a search on google for GM spid codes. You should find all you need in that search.
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Old 04-30-2006, 01:44 PM   #152
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hey p.haze and anyone else
what are you going to do with all those VIN you've collected. i'm trying to get some history about my 92 b4c. it was never in police service. i'm real new to this.went to google gm spid and didn't have much luck. went to ebay, pulled some pics of the spid that were for sale. can you give me more tips? this is the only thread on this forum i've checked out.what i'm looking for is the break down on what police departments used them, how many each department used. how many were sold directly to the public.vins.pictures of the spids listing all the rpo codes.any help would be appericated.also i'm looking for any articles about the b4c camaros. thanks for any help.....steve here's a link to an article that states utah highway patrol bought 22 1992 b4c camaros www.http://highwaypatrol.utah.gov/history/chapter5/517.html

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Old 04-30-2006, 03:50 PM   #153
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Here's the Corrected link:
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Old 04-30-2006, 04:28 PM   #154
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I will not be able to tell you how many B4C's were not in service until we have collected all of the vins from 1991 and 1992.

What is your vin Icehole? So far and only guessing at this point, roughly only 50 or so from 1992 never made it to service. We have about 350 of the vins from 1992 so it is a slow process especially since GM keep them.
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Old 04-30-2006, 06:54 PM   #155
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HEY I'M NEW BUT I GOT SOME COPIES OF RPOS, NOT RIGHT THIS SECOND,HAVE TO DIG THEM OUT OF MY OLD COMPUTER....STEVE P.S. HEY P.HAZE92 ARE YOU THE OWNER OF THIS SITE? DOES ANYONE KNOW HOW TO GET AN ACCURATE COUNT OF B4C THAT WERE NEVER IN POLICE SERVICE
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Ha ha B4CTom!!!!
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<table border="0" cellpadding="6" cellspacing="0" width="100%"> <tbody><tr> <td class="alt2" style="border: 1px inset ;"> Originally Posted by puckin icehole
HEY I'M NEW BUT I GOT SOME COPIES OF RPOS, NOT RIGHT THIS SECOND,HAVE TO DIG THEM OUT OF MY OLD COMPUTER....STEVE P.S. HEY P.HAZE92 ARE YOU THE OWNER OF THIS SITE? DOES ANYONE KNOW HOW TO GET AN ACCURATE COUNT OF B4C THAT WERE NEVER IN POLICE SERVICE
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Old 05-30-2006, 03:19 PM   #158
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1992 B4C in Northern Virginia

I have a 1992 B4C that was ordered for the Montgomery County Police Department but was snagged before it could be delivered by the salesmen, he held onto it for about a year when it was sold to a friend of mine, I purchased it 2 years ago and have been maintaining its orginiality. It has 46000 orginial miles and never driven in the rain or snow. It is in great condition and garage kept. I am glad to have found more owners of these great cars.

How many surviors are out there?
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Old 06-16-2006, 04:16 PM   #159
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B4Cs for p haze

Ok I am finally back, got about 10 B4Cs VIN numbers. You probally have them, but who knows. If you want I can e-mail or call you. Let me know. Also if anyone knows what law enforcement agencies used them, and how many please let us know. I live in California, and I know the California Highway Patrol used them. Also if you know what dealerships they came from. Please post back. Mine was purchased at Central Chevrolet in Fremont CA. and was never in police service. Thanks, Steve
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My email is adtke1@cox.net for those vins. You never know I might not have them. Several B4C's in Northern Cali never made it into service.

Agencies that used B4C's;
States of California, Oregon, Idaho, Wyoming, Colorado, Utah, Kansas, Nevada, Nebraska, Texas, Indiana, Connecticut, New York and possibly more.(I am ONLY talking 1991's and 1992's)

Several Sherriff's Departments, Largest being Harris Co. Texas in 1992.

California bought 21 in 1992
Utah bought 22 in 1992
Texas bought 155 in 1992
Nebraska bought a "bakers dozen" so I guess that means 14
United States Government bought approx 30+ of these B4C's for the FBI(1992). They also bought 1991's but of unsure of that amount.

The others are unknown at this time. That is what this thread is all about. Maybe we will know someday.
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Old 06-17-2006, 12:57 AM   #161
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i sent you 3 e-mails but i'm not sure if they went through. post back if you didn't get them. thanks for the info.
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Old 06-21-2006, 08:57 PM   #162
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does anyone know of a way to determine who originally ordered the car. Like a title search or something. My B4c has a new title without me turning in the old one because it had a lean on it from a storage lot. So the state police gave me a bunch of papers to take to the DMV where I got a new title. I believe it was in service somewhere it still has the electronics for the flashers in the tailpanel.
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Old 07-02-2006, 01:34 AM   #163
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B4C in Ohio

I just thought I'd check out what was up with the B4C. I bought one in Columbus Oh brand new in '92. Bob McDorman Chevrolet. They had two in stock. The black one, which looked cooler, had some aftermarket stripes added to it, I wanted mine to be as original as possible so I took the red one, incognito. The intake manifold gasket started leaking so I have to change it. It has 25,000 fun as hell miles on it. The car has been garaged since I bought it. I have a 5 speed 305, a friend of mine had a '92 B4C with a 350 automatic. Apparently these cars were made in the Vaneyes CA plant before it was shut down. I have a letter from GM saying exactly how many 92's bwere made and where. It's good to know there are other B4C owners out there who know what they have. I'm sure the majority of them have been used and abused, what a shame!
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Old 07-08-2006, 02:25 PM   #164
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Hey im selling my B4C 1LE, if anyones interested look at all the mods and everything in the ad in the Camaros FOR Sale section of the classifieds, Located in Houston TX and need to sell it within 7 weeks
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Old 07-21-2006, 10:13 AM   #165
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Hay P.haze92,

I am not sure how closely you watch E-bay Motors.
But there is a fellow Nebraskan selling a 1991 B4C.
I wish I had the cash to buy another one.
On this one the last 3 digits on the vin are " 911 ".
He states it was a former Nebraska State Patrol vehicle.
Just in case you don't already have this vin number
it is 1G1FP23F4ML188911
it is a Manual trans so I'm assuming it is a 305

PS there are also 2 1992 B4C's
One out of Texas
1G1FP23F1NL137769
The other out of
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1G1FP2383NL142375
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check it out guys!

B4C - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
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Cool, were in the encyclopedia!
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Old 07-23-2006, 09:45 PM   #168
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Wow, soon to be famous! Have more Vin's coming your way. Haven't forgotten about you!

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Dave, I think we are over 350+ on my spreadsheet.
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Do you guys have any good pics of the B4Cs in service? I have been wandering around the internet trying to find pics with mixed results. The one car that I have been scouring the net trying to find more pics of is the Chevy demo car seen below. I want to replicate it but I need to see the graphics in greater detail. I figure that if anyone has pics its you guys and I could really use the help! Thanks!

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there are a few in this folder:

Index of /images/B4Cstuff/copcars

anyone caught leeching my hosting to another site will get the picture replaced with goatse.jpg, pain.jpg, lemonparty.jpg, or horseblow.gif

I also made this before/after pic:



my car is one of the few colorado cars, so there is like around a 1 in 30 (guessing) chance that the car in the picture and my car are the same.
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Do you guys have any good pics of the B4Cs in service? I have been wandering around the internet trying to find pics with mixed results. The one car that I have been scouring the net trying to find more pics of is the Chevy demo car seen below. I want to replicate it but I need to see the graphics in greater detail. I figure that if anyone has pics its you guys and I could really use the help! Thanks!
Well, that was the prototype 1991 B4C. Notice the 1990 Iroc rims and pre 91 Iroc/Z28 grill. Painted up in Texas paint scheme too. That is also the car on the cover of the 1991 B4C brochure except they put the correct 91 rims on it. Look for that brochure for better side shots of the graphics.
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1992 Colorado B4C here. 1G1FP2380NL135447. 350 Auto. I'm working on a complete restoration; however, it's my high mileage daily driver. Still has the roll cage and twin spotlights like in the picture Tom posted. Manual windows and door locks, no cruise control. Only power rear hatch release and defrost.

Tom, I believe in an earlier post, you said yours still had some of the interior equipment. I need pics, please. My car was CSP 360 out of Greeley, CO. If you have the history of your car, you can tell if the car pictured is yours based on the license plate. I have found very few pics on the net, and none of “360.” I was fortunate enough to get the folder from the Colorado State Patrol with my car, showing the original start date, added equipment and insurance card along with service records.

I bought the car a year ago this past weekend from a local Memphian. He flew out to Denver in June of ’95, bought the car at auction and drove it home. It was his daily driver for 10 yrs. He added 3.73 gears and NOS. I’ve removed both and reinstalled 3.23s. I’m still working on the mechanicals and have a good contact in Colorado that’s helping me with research. However, interior photos have been non-existent so far. Any help would be greatly appreciated.

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1992 Colorado B4C here. 1G1FP2380NL135447. 350 Auto. I'm working on a complete restoration; however, it's my high mileage daily driver. Still has the roll cage and twin spotlights like in the picture Tom posted. Manual windows and door locks, no cruise control. Only power rear hatch release and defrost.

Tom, I believe in an earlier post, you said yours still had some of the interior equipment. I need pics, please. My car was CSP 360 out of Greeley, CO. If you have the history of your car, you can tell if the car pictured is yours based on the license plate. I have found very few pics on the net, and none of “360.” I was fortunate enough to get the folder from the Colorado State Patrol with my car, showing the original start date, added equipment and insurance card along with service records.

I bought the car a year ago this past weekend from a local Memphian. He flew out to Denver in June of ’95, bought the car at auction and drove it home. It was his daily driver for 10 yrs. He added 3.73 gears and NOS. I’ve removed both and reinstalled 3.23s. I’m still working on the mechanicals and have a good contact in Colorado that’s helping me with research. However, interior photos have been non-existent so far. Any help would be greatly appreciated.

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My car came with a little leather pouch colorado attaches under the dash for its patrol cars. there is a photocopy of the reg in it. what am I looking for? what do you see in that picture of the colo HP car that I dont? what number are you talking about? I cant read that plte in the pic.
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In the pics where you can read the plate, the car number is on the plate. If that were my car in the pic, the plate would be CSP 360. I’ve seen various copies of that same pic, enough that I don’t believe that’s my car. I didn’t get the black pouch you’re talking about. In the registration, look for a car number similar to mine. I’ve tried calling the CSP to talk to their fleet department. The gentleman in charge isn’t really interested in assisting those of us trying to restore these cars and won’t take our calls or return them. At least that’s been my experience. I was able to find a retired trooper that drove all models of the B4C and actually started in the ’83 SSP Mustang. He’s been a big help, but couldn’t find any interior photos.

What I was asking about with your car was the siren speaker and additional speedometer that you made mention of. If you could provide pics of these, I would greatly appreciate it.

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Thanks for the pics guys. I have been trying to get a B4C for myself but no luck yet. If you see any for sale near michgan, let me know.

Btw, I found a better quality picture of the prototype car at the book store. The text says "Chevrolet Special Service" and the logo in the chevy emblem is a generic badge with "B4C" in the middle.
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i have a 1992 B4C for sale, i'm from Ohio, about 4 hours from Michigan.