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06-20-2008, 04:22 PM
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Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Pensacola, Florida
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Car: 88 IROC Z Vert Engine: 5.0 tpi Transmission: 5 spd | Collectors Car Insurance Quotes I received two quotes today:
American Collectors Insurance - agreed value $14,000; 2,500 mi/yr; 500k liability limit: quote $377/yr
Classic Auto Insurance - agreed value $12,000; 3,000 mi/yr; 500k liability limit; quote $284/yr
Neither company is "rated" but this may not be an issue because of the small market these type companies have.
Does anyone have any experience with either of the two or know if they are legit?
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06-20-2008, 05:24 PM
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Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: Doghouse ······································ Car: 1989 Formula 350 Vert Engine: 350 L98 Transmission: 700R4 Axle/Gears: B&W 3.27
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Car: (2) 1987 T-top Formulas Engine: 312 LB9, 305 LB9 Transmission: 700R4, B&W M5 Axle/Gears: Sag 3.73, B&W 3.45 | Re: Collectors Car Insurance Quotes Hagerty is one of the biggest in the country from my understanding... http://www.hagerty.com/
Your car does have to be so old typically, I want to think 20 or 25 years. And I know that Hagerty is underwritten by another company, I know it was CNA, which is now Encompass.
Since I live in Michigan I have normal Car insurance on my cars, I DO have an appraisal WITH my insurance company, one is $25K and the other is $15K. BUT in the winter time I take all of the insurance off except Comprehensive (Fire theft, glass breakage etc) Basically it covers the car if someone stole the car, the car catches on fire, someone breaks into my barn and damages it etc. Typically it runs me about $100 a year for Comp, depending on the car.
In the Summer time (I know its always summer in FL) I put full coverage on the car and I can drive wherever I want, whenever I want and do whatever I please with the car. On my Insurance forms they call it "Pleasure" I always figured if something happened at work (which probably technically I should not drive it to work but I do on rare occasion) I could say that I was going to have some work done on it, or I was going to work on it where I work as I do have some tools here that I do not have at home.
Full coverage is about $700 per car, but I only have that on it 6 months a year...
By the time I pay my insurance I end up paying about $350 to $400 per year per car. It works out really well if I never take a car out of storage... Like my poor old 67 Buick Riviera...
JOhn
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06-20-2008, 07:46 PM
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Car: 87 IROC-Z28 T-Top Engine: 5.7 Tuned Port Injection Transmission: 700-R4 Auto Axle/Gears: 9-Bolt 3.27 | Re: Collectors Car Insurance Quotes I'm on Grundy for $15,000 and $243 a year.
__________________ 1987 CHEVROLET CAMARO IROC-Z28
-Red with Grey Custom Cloth, 1SC Interior Option Level 3, and T-Tops.
-350ci TPI 5.7 Liter L98, (225HP/330TQ stock) 700-R4, Discs, 9-Bolt Posi with 3.27's, all G92 performance options included with RPO B2L in 87. Shipping weight: 3,461lbs.
-Mods: TPiS airfoil, K&N filters, custom PROM with 160* stat, cut airbox, ACDelco RF spark plugs, MSD 8.5mm wires, MSD coil, TB coolant reroute, CarSound-MagnaFlow high-flow converter, 3" exhaust with Flowmaster 80 Series and stainless angle cut tips, 2,200RPM TC, Spohn SFC's, BFG g-Force T/A KDW's and Nitto DR's, 460 watt sound system with bass tube, otherwise, factory.
-The exact car I searched 4 1/2 years for! It still has original Van Nuys paint, all documentation, and 75,000 miles.
-G-Tech 0-60: 6.06sec with spin. 1989 CHEVROLET CAMARO RS
-Red with Grey Deluxe Leather Interior and T-Tops.
-173ci 2.8 Liter MPFI LB8, 700-R4, 10-Bolt with 3.42's.
-Mods: K&N's and AR rims.
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06-20-2008, 07:57 PM
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Car: 1992 Z28 (Heritage Edition) Engine: 305 TPI Transmission: 700R4 Axle/Gears: 2.73 Posi | Re: Collectors Car Insurance Quotes Correct me if I'm wrong but all household drivers usually have to be older than 25 right? I'm 19 and I could probably benefit from collectors insurance but I seriously doubt anyone would insure me.... |
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06-20-2008, 10:11 PM
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Car: 1989 IrocZ Convertible Engine: 305 TPI Transmission: T5 - 5 Speed Standard Axle/Gears: 3.08 | Re: Collectors Car Insurance Quotes Okfoz, what you do is word for word what I do as well. I thought I wrote it and forgot!!!!
I find what we do seems to be the best all around scenario. I parked for at least 6 months of the year too, and taking it all into account, the cost and coverage is pretty reasonable. |
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06-20-2008, 10:34 PM
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Car: 88 IROC-Z Engine: 350 tpi Transmission: auto Axle/Gears: posi tracked | Re: Collectors Car Insurance Quotes Quote:
Originally Posted by a mack6 Correct me if I'm wrong but all household drivers usually have to be older than 25 right? I'm 19 and I could probably benefit from collectors insurance but I seriously doubt anyone would insure me.... | yes, you have to be older than 25, I tried -18.and they said no one under 25 is insured with them. |
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06-20-2008, 10:39 PM
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Car: '85 TA Engine: Aluminum Fuelie Transmission: Mother of All Manuals | Re: Collectors Car Insurance Quotes With Hagerty it doesn't matter; as long as you have a daily driver you're good to go. |
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06-21-2008, 12:18 AM
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Car: 88 IROC-Z Engine: 350 tpi Transmission: auto Axle/Gears: posi tracked | Re: Collectors Car Insurance Quotes Quote:
Originally Posted by super_kev With Hagerty it doesn't matter; as long as you have a daily driver you're good to go. | car must be older than an 86.   |
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06-21-2008, 10:30 AM
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Car: 88 IROC Z Vert Engine: 5.0 tpi Transmission: 5 spd | Re: Collectors Car Insurance Quotes Quote:
Originally Posted by okfoz (I know its always summer in FL)
JOhn | Not really, sometimes it drops all the way down into the 50's. But I suck it up and drive her all 12 months.
The two I listed: American Collectors Insurance and Classic Auto Insurance were the only two with which my '88 qualified. Anyone have experience or know of either company?
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06-21-2008, 10:58 AM
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Car: Trans Am Engine: 455HO/455/305 Transmission: M22/TH400/TH700R4 Axle/Gears: 3.42/3.08/3.23 | Re: Collectors Car Insurance Quotes I have an agreed value collector car policy through State Farm on my '71 Trans Am. For $10,000 coverage its runs right around $100 a year. This is with a clean driving record.
__________________ 1971 Trans Am - 455 HO - Cameo white/blue stripe
1973 Trans Am - 455 - Buccaneer red
1982 Trans Am - 000 - Bright red
1984 Trans Am - 305 - Silver(parts car)
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06-21-2008, 06:55 PM
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Car: 91 Black Formula Notchback Engine: 305 TPI D1SC ProCharger :) Transmission: 5 Sp Stick Pro 5.0 Axle/Gears: 3.42 | Re: Collectors Car Insurance Quotes I went with Grudny collector car insurance...
I have a weird situation... I'm legally blind and have no license... so I applied with my Father (which they asked me to do) and gave me coverage...
First year, $167 for $10,000 agreed upon value.
Next year, I upped the value to $25,000 (added Knight Rider Dash, interior sound deadening, car stereo, alarm, electronics, ProCharger, etc...
$375 or so...
They do have rules...
No age limit on cars, though I did speak to a person, and the older cars get an even better rate than 81 and newer (seems odd to me)...
Licensed drivers must be 25 or older.
Must not be main vehicle.
Must not be backup vehicle.
Must be garage kept.
Unlimited Mileage.
Before Grundy, Allstate told me to re title MY car in my father's name, wanted $1500 for a year & would only value it as a 91 Firebird, not a Knight Rider replica...
Rafael
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06-21-2008, 09:34 PM
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Car: 1989 GTA Engine: 3.8 Turbo V6 Transmission: TH400 Axle/Gears: 3.42 12 bolt | Re: Collectors Car Insurance Quotes I have my TTA's with Grundy also, seems like a good company. Costs me around $1K/year with realistic agreed values
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06-21-2008, 10:26 PM
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Car: 87 IROC-Z Engine: L98 350 Transmission: 700-R4 Auto Axle/Gears: BW 3.27 | Re: Collectors Car Insurance Quotes I, too, have Grundy with $15k coverage at $243/year. I will be increasing it's value at the next renewal. Because of the Barrett-Jackson and other collector auctions, they contacted me and suggested that I increase the value due to the mileage on my car. |
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06-23-2008, 01:57 PM
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Car: 1991 Z28 Engine: 305 TPI Transmission: 700R Auto Axle/Gears: Eaton POSI 4.10 | Re: Collectors Car Insurance Quotes I just checked with Grundy.com and they quoted me $206 for the year with an agreed value of $12000.
amazing, I was paying $1400 a year with Allstate.
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06-23-2008, 02:39 PM
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Car: RS Engine: LS1 Transmission: T56 Axle/Gears: 9" for the ladies | Re: Collectors Car Insurance Quotes Grundy here is what I am moving my 80TA too and what the 69SS is on.
They are cheap! |
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06-23-2008, 03:25 PM
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Car: 88 IROC-Z Engine: 350 tpi Transmission: auto Axle/Gears: posi tracked | Re: Collectors Car Insurance Quotes Quote:
Originally Posted by goomaan I just checked with Grundy.com and they quoted me $206 for the year with an agreed value of $12000.
amazing, I was paying $1400 a year with Allstate. | allstate??? you should have went with geico.
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06-23-2008, 07:01 PM
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Car: 87 IROC-Z Engine: L98 350 Transmission: 700-R4 Auto Axle/Gears: BW 3.27 | Re: Collectors Car Insurance Quotes Notice to all, do NOT bypass the language filters! |
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06-24-2008, 02:23 AM
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Car: 1986 Pontiac Trans AM WS6 Engine: 305 TPI Transmission: 700R4 Axle/Gears: 3:27 Borg Warner Posi | Re: Collectors Car Insurance Quotes I have a stated value policy with State Farm. We get the multi car, "pleasure use", good driving record, and old people discounts. Since I have another car that is assigned as my daily driver, they don't care if I drive the car to work, as long as we don't excede 2500 miles a year. The one thing that we all need to watch, is that even with a stated/agreed value policy, in the event of a total loss, the insurance company will have an independent apprasial of the car's value at the time of loss, and pay the apprased value, not the stated value amount. The laws may vary from state to state. The State Farm underwriter called my agent, and made sure that I understood how it works when we bought the policy. |
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06-24-2008, 06:33 AM
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Car: 1986 IROC-Z/28 Engine: 406 CID SBC Transmission: 700R4 A4 | Re: Collectors Car Insurance Quotes i just got a qoute from hagarty, $15k value, $431/year. im gonna call grundey some time this week and see what they say |
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06-24-2008, 08:21 AM
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Car: RS Engine: LS1 Transmission: T56 Axle/Gears: 9" for the ladies | Re: Collectors Car Insurance Quotes wohoo just got my card from grundy for the 80TA.
$170 a year!
Time to call american family and tell them to suck it! |
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06-24-2008, 09:18 AM
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Car: '88 GTA, '88 GTA Notchback Engine: 5.7L TPI, 5.7L TPI Transmission: 700R4, 700R4 | Re: Collectors Car Insurance Quotes Both GTAs are on Grundy Worldwide.... $15K replacement coverage and all the other stuff listed above. I pay about $280 per year for each car. |
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06-24-2008, 03:22 PM
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Car: 1992 Firebird Engine: 305 TBI Transmission: Stock 700r4, Edge 3000 convertor Axle/Gears: LS1 rear end with 3.42 gears | Re: Collectors Car Insurance Quotes Im 18, have State Farm and pay..... 850$ for 6months, with discount for airbags, safe driver discount [no tickets of accidents], and one for my parents never having any accidents either.
So 145ish a month, dont think I got it that bad.
But id happily take the 1400$ a year, lol |
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06-24-2008, 03:31 PM
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Car: 91 Black Formula Notchback Engine: 305 TPI D1SC ProCharger :) Transmission: 5 Sp Stick Pro 5.0 Axle/Gears: 3.42 | Re: Collectors Car Insurance Quotes The main difference (I think) is that car is your daily driver, or main mode of transportation.... That's why the collector car insurance is a lot less... It's meant to cover your hobby car, not daily driver.
But I guess if you're loaded & don't work much, and have at least one other car, you could drive it every day with no miles restriction via Grundy's...
Rafael |
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06-24-2008, 03:50 PM
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Car: 90 Formula Engine: 305 Transmission: 700R4 Axle/Gears: 9 bolt/3.27 | Re: Collectors Car Insurance Quotes Quote:
Originally Posted by gatorcola I received two quotes today:
American Collectors Insurance - agreed value $14,000; 2,500 mi/yr; 500k liability limit: quote $377/yr
Classic Auto Insurance - agreed value $12,000; 3,000 mi/yr; 500k liability limit; quote $284/yr
Neither company is "rated" but this may not be an issue because of the small market these type companies have.
Does anyone have any experience with either of the two or know if they are legit? | My Formula is with American Hobbyist (Collectors)-$20,000 agreed value,3K mi/yr,no liability in NC, $0 deductible for $280/yr. NC's insurance rules didn't allow collector insurance companies to sell liability insurance when I bought my coverage but I've heard this may have changed. My liabilty is with State Farm whose stated value policy didn't impress me at all. |
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06-24-2008, 04:37 PM
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Car: 87 IROC-Z Engine: L98 350 Transmission: 700-R4 Auto Axle/Gears: BW 3.27 | Re: Collectors Car Insurance Quotes One thing to know about Grundy is that your daily driver also needs to be newer than the collector car. For most of us that isn't an issue, but for the guy with a 92 collector car and an 88 Cavalier as their daily driver will not get insured thru Grundy. Also note that Grundy has no mileage limitation like the other companies. |
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06-24-2008, 04:40 PM
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