Go Back   Third Generation F-Body Message Boards > Tech Boards > History / Restoration

History / Restoration Got a question about Third Gen (1982-1992) Camaro or Firebird history? Where can I find these original parts? What is this option or RPO code? Those questions, answers, and more!

Welcome to ThirdGen.org!
Welcome to ThirdGen.org.

You are currently viewing our forum as a guest, which gives you limited access to view most discussions and access our other features. By joining our community, at no cost, you will have access to post topics, communicate privately with other members (PM), respond to polls, upload content and access many other special features. Registration is free, fast and simple, join the ThirdGen.org community today!


Reply
 
Thread Tools
Old 11-14-2008, 07:53 PM   #1
Senior Member
 
Gumby's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: North-West-Ohio-USA
Posts: 5,167
Car: 86-FireBird
Engine: 2.8-MPFI
Transmission: T5
Axle/Gears: 3:42

Classifieds Rating: (0)
Heavy rust removal made easy, I知 a believer.

Heavy rust removal made easy, I知 a believer.

We all know how crusty under body car parts can get.
I wanted to clean up my rear end cover.
I got a sand blast cabinet but man it such a heavy rust its gonna be even work then.


Thought about this vid
http://Viragotech.com/rustremoval.mpg

Went and found some washing soda.
I changed things up a bit from a post on the virago site about a guy who did a gas tank, he said he had to add more soda and rods to get it done more even.

So I used near 2 cups of soda to 8 gal of hot water. Took a metal strip like in the vid but put some rods on it like an antenna and from the rust you can see on them, it worked.




This pic here is after only 30-40 mins


I then let it go near another 2hrs to get it super clean for powder.
This is it and the best it gonna look id bet.



If I had a cement swiming pool id do my whole car, could capture allot of free hydrogen doing that large scale for classics. It was making bubbles like mad.
This ad is not displayed to registered members.
Register your free account today and become a member on ThirdGen!
Gumby is offline vBGarage Page   Reply With Quote
Sponsored Links
Registered users do not see this ad.
Click here to register for free!
Old 11-14-2008, 08:51 PM   #2
Senior Member
 
Gumby's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: North-West-Ohio-USA
Posts: 5,167
Car: 86-FireBird
Engine: 2.8-MPFI
Transmission: T5
Axle/Gears: 3:42

Classifieds Rating: (0)
Re: Heavy rust removal made easy, I知 a believer.

Here is the end result. Hit with chrome powder, looks decent for the pitty metal. But once under the car and from 4ft away, it will look great.

That made my life so much easier, I would of spent all day working to get that cover clean enough to powder coat.

Gumby is offline vBGarage Page   Reply With Quote
Old 11-14-2008, 09:03 PM   #3
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: Western WA
Posts: 993
Car: 1985 Chevrolet Camaro Z28
Engine: 5.0
Transmission: 700R-4
Axle/Gears: 3.42

Classifieds Rating: (0)
Re: Heavy rust removal made easy, I知 a believer.

So I guess they didn't teach you about this in your middle school science class? I agree, it is a very helpful process.
gregsz-28 is offline vBGarage Page   Reply With Quote
Old 11-14-2008, 10:14 PM   #4
Senior Member
 
92 Camaro's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: Palm Coast, Fl.
Posts: 375
Car: 1992 Camaro RS
Engine: 5.0 TBI
Transmission: 700R4

Classifieds Rating: (0)
Re: Heavy rust removal made easy, I知 a believer.

I remember watching some spike or speed tv episode doing this. I already got my rear end fluid flushed so I won't be doing the cover anytime soon.
92 Camaro is offline vBGarage Page   Reply With Quote
Old 10-13-2009, 12:40 AM   #5
Senior Member
 
Gumby's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: North-West-Ohio-USA
Posts: 5,167
Car: 86-FireBird
Engine: 2.8-MPFI
Transmission: T5
Axle/Gears: 3:42

Classifieds Rating: (0)
Re: Heavy rust removal made easy, I知 a believer.

Another option

http://www.thirdgen.org/techboard/af...ml#post1486252 (Molasses Rust Removal)
__________________
86 Pontiac Firebird
[68 Firebird hoodscoops, custom notchback,
custom rear mounted tach, inverted wing.]
http://www.thirdgen.org/techboard/v6...-all-over.html
I love my new notch-back. See link for newer pics and above mods.

Gumby is offline vBGarage Page   Reply With Quote
Old 10-13-2009, 12:58 AM   #6
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: Pensacola Fl
Posts: 479
Car: 1983 Z-28, 1991 RS
Engine: none, l03
Transmission: none, 700R4
Axle/Gears: 10 bolt 3.42, 10 bolt 2.70

Classifieds Rating: (0)
Re: Heavy rust removal made easy, I知 a believer.

neat, I'll have to try this.
ericjon262 is offline vBGarage Page   Reply With Quote
Old 10-14-2009, 03:41 PM   #7
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: Central Connecticut
Posts: 368
Car: 1991 Trans Am vert and 94 S15 Jimmy
Engine: LB9 & 4.3 Vortec
Transmission: 700r4 (T/A) 4L60E (S15)
Axle/Gears: yeah they got em

Classifieds Rating: (0)
Re: Heavy rust removal made easy, I知 a believer.

Yeah just do a search on youtube... you'll find a lot of good stuff like this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NH9Cd-g23kw
essentially the same thing but they mention cola here.

I'm glad I found this thread since I'm working on my 91 T/A and that thing has some parts that are rusted to hell... This will be great for those rusty screws! Now I just gotta find a "power source."

EDIT: Oh and any idea if the black stuff that comes out of it is paintable?

Last edited by musclecar70sfan; 10-14-2009 at 03:45 PM.
musclecar70sfan is offline vBGarage Page   Reply With Quote
Old 10-15-2009, 10:48 PM   #8
Senior Member
 
Gumby's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: North-West-Ohio-USA
Posts: 5,167
Car: 86-FireBird
Engine: 2.8-MPFI
Transmission: T5
Axle/Gears: 3:42

Classifieds Rating: (0)
Re: Heavy rust removal made easy, I知 a believer.

The black scrubs off.

Soda? Sticky?

The battery charger is the best option.
Works like a charm.

I need to build a perm box / tank or what not to do stuff in.

Still like to borrow a pool and do the whole car.
So much rust you can't see that only a dip can get to.
But a real dip from a shop is $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$.
__________________
86 Pontiac Firebird
[68 Firebird hoodscoops, custom notchback,
custom rear mounted tach, inverted wing.]
http://www.thirdgen.org/techboard/v6...-all-over.html
I love my new notch-back. See link for newer pics and above mods.

Gumby is offline vBGarage Page   Reply With Quote
Old 10-18-2009, 08:53 PM   #9
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: Central Connecticut
Posts: 368
Car: 1991 Trans Am vert and 94 S15 Jimmy
Engine: LB9 & 4.3 Vortec
Transmission: 700r4 (T/A) 4L60E (S15)
Axle/Gears: yeah they got em

Classifieds Rating: (0)
Re: Heavy rust removal made easy, I知 a believer.

Hey what kind of charger are you using? I bought a $30 from walmart but it's a smart charger and doesn't seem to be sending juice into my rust removal project. The light saying if its charging isn't lit and it's been sitting for over an hour with nothing happening. Or is there any way I can trick the charger?
musclecar70sfan is offline vBGarage Page   Reply With Quote
Old 10-19-2009, 07:40 PM   #10
Senior Member
 
Gumby's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: North-West-Ohio-USA
Posts: 5,167
Car: 86-FireBird
Engine: 2.8-MPFI
Transmission: T5
Axle/Gears: 3:42

Classifieds Rating: (0)
Re: Heavy rust removal made easy, I知 a believer.

That would be the hitch, them goofy electronic smart chargers wont work, and they suck anyways.

Regular old on off type, not smart.
__________________
86 Pontiac Firebird
[68 Firebird hoodscoops, custom notchback,
custom rear mounted tach, inverted wing.]
http://www.thirdgen.org/techboard/v6...-all-over.html
I love my new notch-back. See link for newer pics and above mods.

Gumby is offline vBGarage Page   Reply With Quote
Old 10-27-2009, 04:50 PM   #11
Senior Member
 
l_dis_travlr's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: League City, TX
Posts: 414
Car: 90 Formula -- tot resto in progress
Engine: 350
Transmission: 700R4 w/ 2500 stall, by Owen @ ARD
Axle/Gears: 3.23 posi disc

Classifieds Rating: (0)
Re: Heavy rust removal made easy, I知 a believer.

Gee, that diff condition looks EXACTLY like what I picked up in MI.
last year. Glad permanent home is Texas, where we don't need
to shovel sunshine, and salt is reserved for ice-cream freezing
& cow-pastures.

I've had good luck w/ the electrolysis method -- except for the
time when I reversed the polarity connections, and collected more
rust on the part. It's amazing how the water jackets in
blocks & heads turn out. Lengths of foundation re-bar make good
electrodes, and are plentiful/cheap. And best of all, the used
solution (iron oxide, and washing soda) is as easy to dispose of
as splashing it across the yard.
l_dis_travlr is offline vBGarage Page   Reply With Quote
Old 10-27-2009, 05:25 PM   #12
Senior Member
 
berlin305's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: Belleville, KS
Posts: 517
Car: 1986 camaro coupe
Engine: 305 v8 HO, edlebrock carbed
Transmission: Borg Warner WC T5
Axle/Gears: what ever came with these cars

Classifieds Rating: (2)
Send a message via MSN to berlin305
Re: Heavy rust removal made easy, I知 a believer.

I have an old Charger. Best thing ever the only time it is smart is if it overloads and clicks off. Came out of an old mechanic shop selling stuff.
berlin305 is offline vBGarage Page   Reply With Quote
Old 10-28-2009, 08:10 AM   #13
Member
 
SolarGoldRaptor's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: Dunkerque - France
Posts: 105
Car: 1984 Pontiac Firebird Trans Am
Engine: V8 5.0L HO (L69)
Transmission: B&W T5
Axle/Gears: 3.73 limited slip

Classifieds Rating: (0)
Send a message via MSN to SolarGoldRaptor
Re: Heavy rust removal made easy, I知 a believer.

A computer power supply works great as well. You only need to add a wire to make it run constantly.
SolarGoldRaptor is offline vBGarage Page   Reply With Quote
Old 10-28-2009, 07:02 PM   #14
Senior Member
 
Gumby's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: North-West-Ohio-USA
Posts: 5,167
Car: 86-FireBird
Engine: 2.8-MPFI
Transmission: T5
Axle/Gears: 3:42

Classifieds Rating: (0)
Re: Heavy rust removal made easy, I知 a believer.

Quote:
Originally Posted by SolarGoldRaptor View Post
A computer power supply works great as well. You only need to add a wire to make it run constantly.
you can't come in and post that without detailed instruction. Just rude
__________________
86 Pontiac Firebird
[68 Firebird hoodscoops, custom notchback,
custom rear mounted tach, inverted wing.]
http://www.thirdgen.org/techboard/v6...-all-over.html
I love my new notch-back. See link for newer pics and above mods.

Gumby is offline vBGarage Page   Reply With Quote
Old 10-28-2009, 08:03 PM   #15
Junior Member
 
Killert's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: Norristown PA
Posts: 71
Car: 88 Firebird.
Engine: 3.4
Transmission: 700R4
Axle/Gears: 9 Bolt, 3.23:1 Diskbrakes

Classifieds Rating: (0)
Re: Heavy rust removal made easy, I知 a believer.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Gumby View Post
you can't come in and post that without detailed instruction. Just rude
On the big 20/24pin connector, Connect the green (pin14) with any ground (black wire)
Killert is offline vBGarage Page   Reply With Quote
Old 10-30-2009, 10:09 AM   #16
Member
 
SolarGoldRaptor's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: Dunkerque - France
Posts: 105
Car: 1984 Pontiac Firebird Trans Am
Engine: V8 5.0L HO (L69)
Transmission: B&W T5
Axle/Gears: 3.73 limited slip

Classifieds Rating: (0)
Send a message via MSN to SolarGoldRaptor
Re: Heavy rust removal made easy, I知 a believer.

Sorry I couldn't remember which wires had to be connected together :P So thanks KillerT !
SolarGoldRaptor is offline vBGarage Page   Reply With Quote
Old 11-14-2009, 07:29 PM   #17
Senior Member
 
87_Injected's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: Under the Sun
Posts: 389
Car: 1987 IROC- Z
Engine: 350 TPI 5.7L
Transmission: 700R4

Classifieds Rating: (0)
Re: Heavy rust removal made easy, I知 a believer.

Nice! If only I had a garage, would I do something like this.
__________________
1987 IROC Z
87_Injected is offline vBGarage Page   Reply With Quote


Reply

Go Back   Third Generation F-Body Message Boards > Tech Boards > History / Restoration

Tags
axle, car, dip, electrolysis, end, foundation, northwest, pontiac, rear, rebar, removal, restoration, rust, tank, youtube
Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off

 






1982 Camaro '82 || 1983 Camaro '83 || 1984 Camaro '84 || 1985 Camaro '85 || 1986 Camaro '86 || 1987 Camaro '87 || 1988 Camaro '88 || 1989 Camaro '89 || 1990 Camaro '90 || 1991 Camaro '91 || 1992 Camaro '92


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 05:03 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.7.5
Copyright ©2000 - 2009, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Search Engine Friendly URLs by vBSEO 3.2.0
All content copyright ゥ 1997 - 2009 ThirdGen.org. All rights reserved. No part of this website may be reproduced without the expressed, documented, and written consent of ThirdGen.org's Administrators.