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ok so i haven't really seen any threads that tell people for sure how rare there cars color is so for the past couple days I'm my spare time iv been adding up all of there colors and how many of them where made and i put them in order from rarest to most common now there might be a couple mistakes so id u find any tell me and ill fix it.
Red and Bright Red are technically the same color, just the code for it changed 85-on and they added the word "Bright" to it. Combining both would make 258,228 and also make it the most produced color going by your numbers.
Red and Bright Red are technically the same color, just the code for it changed 85-on and they added the word "Bright" to it. Combining both would make 258,228 and also make it the most produced color going by your numbers.
You gave silver as #33. I don't know if that's met. silver or not, but met. silver was a one-year color, IIRC. My question is if met. silver is #33 out of 36, why I have I never seen one (in person) besides my own.
JamesC
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The whites may well have been different, I don't know.
Don't change your #s based on my question....
well your question just brought up the same point as with the red with it being the same color just adiffernt name witch is y i changed it
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You gave silver as #33. I don't know if that's met. silver or not, but met. silver was a one-year color, IIRC. My question is if met. silver is #33 out of 36, why I have I never seen one (in person) besides my own.
JamesC
well im not sure if its met silver my sources just said silver and i was shocked that its at that place on the list cause iv never seen a silver camaro in person ether.do u have the color code for this silver? cause then a can be sure
well im not sure if its met silver my sources just said silver and i was shocked that its at that place on the list cause iv never seen a silver camaro in person ether.do u have the color code for this silver? cause then a can be sure
GM 8523.
JamesC
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Nice list. What about Beige though? My 84 T/A is beige and I've seen Camaros that appeared to also be around 1984 that were also beige. Was it known as "yellow beige" and really only available in '85 on Camaros? I could've sworn I saw it on an 84.
Nice list. What about Beige though? My 84 T/A is beige and I've seen Camaros that appeared to also be around 1984 that were also beige. Was it known as "yellow beige" and really only available in '85 on Camaros? I could've sworn I saw it on an 84.
Is 1984 and 1985 code 75 blaze red the same as 1986 thru 90 code 81 bright red? If so why does 1991 have both 75 bright red and code 81 dark red metallic?
Cameron thank you for taking the time to compile the color list. With that said I have a similar question as JeremyNYR on the '85 yellow beige. I have a '83 Z28 that is code 59 beige which you don't have listed. There were 4,388 total Camaros built this color in '83 according to the Whitebook and Camarosource. It's interesting to note the '83 Camaro brochure doesn't show the beige in the color choices (neither does the parts book I have). This may have been a late color addition. The same code for beige is used again in '84 but this time with WA 8509 added. There were 16,120 Camaros built this color in '84. I have the idea the '85 light yellow code 54 maybe somewhat different given the different WA8525 for it. Now this is a matter of opinion as I would have to see them to compare. And from a distance people think my car is white.
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You gave silver as #33. I don't know if that's met. silver or not, but met. silver was a one-year color, IIRC. My question is if met. silver is #33 out of 36, why I have I never seen one (in person) besides my own.
JamesC
A few months ago I saw a silver 85 Iroc in a local junkyard.
A few months ago I saw a silver 85 Iroc in a local junkyard.
As I've mentioned, I've never seen another met. silver up close and personal, so to speak--gun metal gray, yes, met. silver, no. A search of the internet brings up only a very few, which might be explained if met. silver is one year color. I can only conclude that the two are different hues, especially with a #33 ranking.
JamesC
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As I've mentioned, I've never seen another met. silver up close and personal, so to speak--gun metal gray, yes, met. silver, no. A search of the internet brings up only a very few, which might be explained if met. silver is one year color. I can only conclude that the two are different hues, especially with a #33 ranking.
JamesC
I would have to agree that the 1985 only silver color is very very uncommon.When I saw the one in the junkyard I knew it was an 85 right away just by the color
I have a white 87 GTA & had a white 89 GTA.....At the same time.
Side by side, you could tell the whites were different. The 89 GTA hood is now on my 87 GTA & there is no doubt, that the 2 whites were different.
Just like the gold on the crosslace wheels. The golds are not the same, not even between 88-92 crosslace wheels. My 87 had 88+ ones & the 89 crosslaces were not all the same gold.
Whether there might have been differences between paint runs of white on different days, I dunno. But that shouldn't happen on the original, computer controlled, assembly line.
For decades, "White" was just... white, nothing particularly special. But paint technology began changing in the '80s, and manufacturers learned how to produce purer base materials, so whites started getting cleaner and brighter. So yes, there is a definite difference between the newer, brighter "Arctic White," and the early-thirdgen, decades-old, standard formula "White."
Even today, white continues to get brighter and brighter. You can see that on cars from all manufacturers.
Regarding the statements about "Red" and "Bright Red" being the same, I don't think they were. IIRC, the early('82-'84) thirdgen red was a completely dfferent shade of red than the '85+ color... at least, on 'birds it was different. And unlike white, this wasn't a difference simply due to technological advances in paint development. "Red" was very obviously a totally different color than the later "Bright Red."
I've been building up my parts inventory and have a red fender and hood from an '83 Firebird. My '88 GTA is bright red and the difference is very striking.
Also, my '89 Firebird is white. I like the Artic White and did my engine bay with that code (I'm painting the entire car Arctic White). The Arctic White color as Stephen said is definitely brighter.
1) 1985 YELLOW is a different hue than the 1986-1988 Yellow
2) Ultra Blue in 1991 Ultra Blue is actually the same color as the Bright Blue from 1990. (White Book)
3) If you really want to do some serious research on this I would almost recommend getting the WA codes and comparing them. You may learn that some colors were actually named different things different years. I do know that there are cases where Pontiac & Chevrolet for example called the color something different, but were actually the exact mix. A case in point I know in 1967 Buick called it Plumb, and Oldsmobile called it Dubenet {sp}...
4) NOT all non metallic reds were the same from 1982-1992... They were close but not exactly the same.
all for now.
John
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ya i forgot to say that yes camaros colors onley i cant find all the number for the birds
