mpb74

I have a book called, Chevrolet Chronicle. It has a picture of the camaro gtz concept, and it looks kinda like the fourth gen. It doesnt say much about the drive train except that the car has a 4.3 liter v6 with close to the same horsepower as the v8's.
I was just wondering if any of you have ever seen or know anything about this car.

mario82z28

I haven't heard of it do you have any pics you can post for us

Stephen

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Amazing what a Google search came up with, as the FIRST result.

http://www.firebirdnation.com/forums...x.php/t96.html

mario82z28

I'm glade they didn't go through with that doesn't look right, but for 1985 that would have been ahead of it's time

mpb74

plus they were considering front wheel drive for the fourth gens.

gregsz-28

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What does it say the horsepower was, in your book?

okfoz

The considered FWD fro 3rd Gens too...

Chevrolet did play with a Turbo 4.3 in 1983 or 1984, it was seriously considered for production at one point. Like the TTA, it would have been too expensive to produce, and sales would have been limited.

John

IrocZ_85

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The article says the car "gives a good peek at 1988" man were they wrong!

HarmonyCamaro

be interesting if somebody actually built this...

L695speed

230 HP from the 4.3 Turbo 6. I got the number from the Motor Trend article that was published in June of '85. I also have another article about a turbo charged Camaro prototype called the Evolution Iroc II. According to Motor Trend's December 89 issue the prototype was built with a 4.3 Turbo V6 with close to 300HP as a what if when the GNX was being phased out. Ironically the Buick engine ended up at Pontiac and Chevy never pushed for production for the Turbo Camaro. I don't know if the Evolution Iroc II still exists or if it met the crusher. Would be great if it still exists. I know I know I will scan these in eventually to be put in the media section.......

JeremyNYR

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There are obvious similarities between the GTZs headlights and those of the LT1 Camaro. I Also see some 91-92 Camaro ground effects styling with the opening at the rear edge of the front bumper and side rocker pieces.

QUICKCHICKEN

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yup, it was called the GM80 program. Settlemire mentioned this in a few of his siminars.

okfoz

Here is the article, Hot Rod December 1982




John

mpb74

i would love to own a turbo charged 4.3 z28. i wonder what it ran in the quarter mile?
they should have ran something like this on the iroc track. with that 4.3 sitting that close to the firewall, it would have handled like it was on a rail!

okfoz

Actually I just found some new info on the Turbo 4.3...

This is from a Chevrolet Brochure from 1985

Convoy25

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1. did anyone ever try fabbing a GTZ clone?

2. i might be answering my own question but, why did they not slap turbos on camaros? they did it on the jimmy i think, and obviously buick did it.
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did they not because they didn't want it to overpower the V8s?

Stephen

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The "turbo Jimmy", was the Blazer version of the Syclone. AWD turbo V6.

okfoz

I think price was a huge determining factor, I think there was some foresight as the TTA did not sell well, IIRC there were some TTA's still on dealers lots into 1990...

John

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KrisW

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Just digging through links from old threads...

Trying to get some more turbo and 90 degree V6 insights...

TTA 1387

I know an old thread but here's the only pic I have of the GTZ. This was from the 35th show at the Corvette Museum in '01.

KrisW

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That is a GREAT picture!

Thanks!!

Convoy25

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if i ever get enough money i would definetly make a GTZ clone, though i would make the lower front bumper a little more aggressive. then totally swap a turbo 4.3 vortec or an LSJ

KrisW

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Absolutely

I see my 88 IROC parts car being resurrected in a tribute to that car, turbo V6 included...

musicfreako

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That GTZ is BEAUTIFUL!!!

TTA 1387

Thanks. The car next to it on the right was the Banchee(sp?). I can't find any exterior pics of that car. Don't know what I did with them.

It was. Being that my car was on display also, I got to get up close to all the of the GM cars. Especially before the gates opened. Pretty neat to say the least.

kmcn47

DO IT MAN DO IT NOWWW!!!!!!

KrisW

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hahahahhhhahahahha

I am looking forward to doing SOMETHING with the old 88. I have to come home first, then the car projects will get moving.

platynumx

http://www.supercars.net/cars/4354.html

that car sold for 22,000 in 2009 with a scrap title.

magazine scan with dif angled pics of car for those wishing to make a tribute car. lol probably be better to start with a fourth gen.
http://s9.zetaboards.com/nythirdgen/topic/7266503/1/

platynumx

ew check this other concept out made in 3rd gen timeframe. says its an 1989 "california camaro iroc-z concept" http://www.ls1.com/forums/f35/1989-c...ng-cues*-9385/
first post first pics.

KrisW

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I'm not surprised; I just read an article from GM Hi-Tech Performance that talked about that.

I guess most of the concept cars that they did testing with had either junk titles or experimental VINs that you could never register, to keep their liabilities down.

Hopefully that car is in somebody's collection being taken care of.

okfoz

Many of the cars of the era were actually the same car... Take the Firefox and Firefox II cars, they actually used the same car. They would update the looks to make it more modern and then do other ideas...

KrisW

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I was just looking at 70's Buick Skyhawks and Chevy Monzas, and I think the GTZ tail comes from there.

The reason that is interesting to me is that the first prototype picture I have seen of a third gen had an 82-ish front Camaro clip grafted to a Monza body...

At least I know what tail lights to copy now hahahahhahah.

Convoy25

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i've seen that along with other variations, def look like they belong in back to the future lol

the pontiac fiero concepts look alot like the 4th gens. but with the sport/notch back

Dante93GTZ

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GM made some interesting looking stuff.... back when they actually cared about their products and made things that people wanted to buy!

<--- Pre-2000 "GM-guy"

kmcn47

and who could forget the amazing gm concept that stared in the B movie classic "the wraith"

Dante93GTZ

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I thought that was a Dodge...

L695speed

It was a Dodge.... I know it was.

kmcn47

you guys are right, its been so long since i've seen "The Wraith" i had it confused with this http://www.supercars.net/Pics?viewPi...D=1&pID=807957 which was in "Demolition Man"

caffeine

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Interestingly enough, I think the local GM dealership has a Camaro GTZ in their showroom.

akanitro

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Front end reminds me of the Toyota MR2 91-95 models.

Convoy25

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Those are pretty much Fieros too.

kmcn47

got a picture? no offense but i find that hard to believe

caffeine

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I'll try to grab a couple next time I'm in town. I wouldn't believe me either . I used to think it was a modified 4th gen but the other day my friend pointed out that its a GTZ. His boss is friends with the owner of the dealership.

caffeine

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Here are pics as requested:

caffeine

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6-character VIN


They wouldn't remove the hood for us since it's apparently a big job and they've already scratched some of the paint doing it before.


They also have a Darth Vader Trans AM:

kmcn47

wow, how'd all these cars end up in victoria BC?

caffeine

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I think the owner of the dealership had money to blow and was at the Barrett-Jackson auctions. It's not even in Victoria either its in Duncan which is a much smaller town than Victoria.

kmcn47

i wish i had money to blow at barret jackson

KrisW

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Thanks for posting up those pics. I love seeing that car.