Yet Another "What's Wrong With This Ebay Camaro" Thread - Third Generation F-Body Message Boards

TOM-1LE · 08-19-2009, 05:35 PM

This Camaro is nicely equipped, but a couple things don't seem right about it. See if you can identify what it is:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1992-...=p4506.c0.m245

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Bullydawg · 08-19-2009, 05:38 PM

Is that the correct grill? I am not too sure. I am more of a bird man.

two-if-by-sea · 08-19-2009, 05:55 PM

THe "Chin Spoiler" or front ground effect is not correct.

CharcoalBird · 08-19-2009, 05:55 PM

For one, the front bumper's.......front spoiler? I believe that's what they're called is from a pre-91 Camaro.

UNCLE TOM · 08-19-2009, 06:01 PM

airbags ???

DanJz · 08-19-2009, 06:05 PM

no black around the headlights?

TOM-1LE · 08-19-2009, 06:05 PM

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Originally Posted by two-if-by-sea

THe "Chin Spoiler" or front ground effect is not correct.

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Originally Posted by CharcoalBird

For one, the front bumper's.......front spoiler? I believe that's what they're called is from a pre-91 Camaro.

DING! That's one thing. But there's more, if you keep looking.

TOM-1LE · 08-19-2009, 06:06 PM

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Originally Posted by DanJz

no black around the headlights?

DING! That's another thing. But there's still more!!

CharcoalBird · 08-19-2009, 06:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Bullydawg

I am more of a bird man.

Same here.
The steering wheel from a firebird? The interior is not blue as the ad says it is.

TOM-1LE · 08-19-2009, 06:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Bullydawg

Is that the correct grill? I am not too sure. I am more of a bird man.

DING! You are correct too, that's an RS grille. Can anyone else find anything?

JT · 08-19-2009, 06:23 PM

Red stripe kit on hood/decklid despite it not having the Z03 option (Heritage)?

TOM-1LE · 08-19-2009, 06:33 PM

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Originally Posted by JT

Red stripe kit on hood/decklid despite it not having the Z03 option (Heritage)?

DING! Another winner!

Here's what I noticed:

Wrong front spoiler
Wrong grille
No black headlight pockets
No fog lights (despite having RPO T96 -- fog lights)
Heritage stripes, but no Z03 option and no 25th Anniversary badge on the decklid
No body side moldings (despite having RPO B84 -- body side moldings)

So much for "ALL STOCK IN PERFECT CONDITION, LIKE BUYING A NEW Z28." I wonder what all is wrong with it that we can't see?

robotic_junky · 08-19-2009, 06:48 PM

No passenger airbag or side airbags. Camaros in 1992 only got a driver's side airbag. Did the 25th ann. Z28 get the 1LE package because I didn't see it on the RPO codes.

icebird84 · 08-19-2009, 07:21 PM

http://detroit.craigslist.org/mcb/ctd/1323456304.html

AmorgetRS · 08-19-2009, 07:27 PM

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Originally Posted by robotic_junky

Did the 25th ann. Z28 get the 1LE package because I didn't see it on the RPO codes.

No, 1LE was separate completely. I believe you could get the Z03 package on a 1LE, but it wasn't standard in any way.

akmusclecar · 08-20-2009, 01:53 AM

Also in the craigslist ad it has a 5.7 + T-5 combo? They didn't make that combo available from the factory.

gregsz-28 · 08-20-2009, 02:33 AM

I know it doesn't have Anti-lock brakes, or at least it doesn't if they are working correctly

InfernalVortex · 08-20-2009, 02:40 AM

It's probably just a 305 Z28 that got in an accident and the front bumper cover/gfx/grille had to be replaced.

96LT4c4 · 08-20-2009, 08:10 AM

This is the second time it has been on Ebay. I emailed him last time it was on about the front spoiler and grill......he told me it was correct.

I am going to email him a link to this thread. I think he is a dealer.

89-bird · 08-20-2009, 11:25 AM

The worst part of all this is that it is the same car on EBAY and Craigslist . Don't believe me look at the location and the vin . It is the same car on both .

okfoz · 08-20-2009, 01:02 PM

nobody mentioned that the front bumper also did not match the color of the front LH fender...

John

885speed · 08-20-2009, 01:18 PM

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Originally Posted by akmusclecar

Also in the craigslist ad it has a 5.7 + T-5 combo? They didn't make that combo available from the factory.

On the EBAY link for it, if you look at the RPO codes, LB9 is pretty easy to spot, so its a 305/T5 combo, they just list it as a 350

89ROC-Z · 08-20-2009, 01:38 PM

isn't false advertisement a felony?

okfoz · 08-20-2009, 01:39 PM

They could simply blame it on dyslexia, Good luck, go to town.

icebird84 · 08-20-2009, 01:47 PM

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Originally Posted by 89-bird

The worst part of all this is that it is the same car on EBAY and Craigslist . Don't believe me look at the location and the vin . It is the same car on both .

that is why I post it and ti come with 305

freestylzz · 08-20-2009, 02:23 PM

RPO list from vin# 1G1FP23F3NL148398;

*86EYEROK* · 08-20-2009, 02:36 PM

hey freestylzz can you get RPO codes for any vin?

freestylzz · 08-20-2009, 02:53 PM

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Originally Posted by *86EYEROK*

hey freestylzz can you get RPO codes for any vin?

Yeah, pretty much any GM. It's hit and miss though, the older they get.

TOM-1LE · 08-20-2009, 06:24 PM

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Originally Posted by InfernalVortex

It's probably just a 305 Z28 that got in an accident and the front bumper cover/gfx/grille had to be replaced.

Yes...replaced with obviously incorrect parts! It's not like the correct pieces are hard to find.

Being an original G92/5-speed with factory CD player, it's actually a pretty nicely equipped car. Too bad it couldn't have been fixed better -- and the seller obviously doesn't seem to care about representing the car accurately.

I just noticed that the radio is sitting at an angle in the dash -- like the dash is hacked inside and the radio is loose and sagging. You can see this best in the picture from the side. Nice.

TOM-1LE · 08-20-2009, 06:29 PM

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Originally Posted by 96LT4c4

This is the second time it has been on Ebay. I emailed him last time it was on about the front spoiler and grill......he told me it was correct.

Amusing. You should have emailed him a picture of a proper '92 Z28 and asked him to explain why his "correct" grille and spoiler look different.

I can't believe the bids are getting as high as they are on this car...

godreject · 08-20-2009, 08:23 PM

why a 145mph speedo if its an lb9 car, also the front seat are those correct my 91 has different seat 1 piece, those look just the ones on my 88 with the head rest seperately ?

i wonder how dissapointed the buyer will be once they read this post lol

96LT4c4 · 08-20-2009, 09:01 PM

His reply

"THE CARS IDS MATCH THE TITLE MATCHES THE CAR FAX MATCHES THE BUILD SHEET MATCHES ITS A 1992 25 ANNIVERSARY 5.O TPI Z28 CAMARO SOME GUY SAID THE FRONT BUMPER IS WRONG IN 1992 RS AND Z28 HAVE THE SAME PART NUMBER FOR PLASTIC FRONT BUMPERS"

My reply back

"I am sure that it is a real Z28. But, at some point it has had the front end repaired with the wrong parts. The actual bumper is the same for the Z and the RS. The "Grill" is different. The RS grill is louvered like what is on your car; the Z grill is not really much of a grill at all and should have fog lights in it. The front ground effect/chin spoiler bolts to the bumper. Your car has a ground effect for a pre 91-92 car. There should be vents built into the sides of it, in front of the wheels. Study the pictures in this link it is pretty plain to see what I am talking about. Also your RPO codes show that the car did not come with the stripes. There should be a Z03 on the RPO sticker."
http://www.thirdgen.org/pictures-1992-chevy-camaro

89Firebin · 08-20-2009, 09:20 PM

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Originally Posted by freestylzz

Yeah, pretty much any GM. It's hit and miss though, the older they get.

Can you look up 1G2FS2182KL210030 please?

Thank you VERY MUCH!
Ryan

quick90rs · 08-20-2009, 09:27 PM

why did he just put 2 new cat converters on it, theres just one!

luvofjah · 08-20-2009, 09:37 PM

As for the speedo, my 91 Formula 5.0 TPI 5 Speed has a 140 mph one...

Raf

89ROC-Z · 08-20-2009, 09:48 PM

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Originally Posted by godreject

why a 145mph speedo if its an lb9 car, also the front seat are those correct my 91 has different seat 1 piece, those look just the ones on my 88 with the head rest seperately ?

i wonder how dissapointed the buyer will be once they read this post lol

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Originally Posted by quick90rs

why did he just put 2 new cat converters on it, theres just one!

IIRC if it's a G-92 optioned car it will have a 145 mph and dual cats

quick90rs · 08-20-2009, 09:56 PM

so it had true dual exhaust?

InfernalVortex · 08-20-2009, 10:08 PM

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Originally Posted by quick90rs

so it had true dual exhaust?

No. It just has 2 cats. After the cats it merges into a single pipe.

quick90rs · 08-20-2009, 10:25 PM

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Originally Posted by InfernalVortex

No. It just has 2 cats. After the cats it merges into a single pipe.

while im on this subject, is it true that the 82 Indy500 Pace car had true dual exhaust if so how did they do this

a mack6 · 08-20-2009, 10:25 PM

Also, if it WERE a Z03 Heritage Car (which we know its not)... it's missing the badge on the decklid (easiest way besides RPO codes to know if its a true Heritage) and also the emblems on the rear bumper would be wrong for a Heritage.

A White/Red Heritage should have RED Tuned Port Injection and Z28 badges in the back, regardless of what color accents the wheels have.

Just dropping some knowledge^^^ Even though i know its moot since the car isnt a Heritage to begin with...

Mr. IROC-Z · 08-21-2009, 02:35 AM

wow scary..car was probably in a wreck and they just replaced the parts with any other Thirdgen. Feel bad for whoever buys it.

TOM-1LE · 08-21-2009, 09:49 PM

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Originally Posted by 96LT4c4

His reply

"THE BUILD SHEET MATCHES..."

Oh it does, does it? Where are the fog lights? Where are the body side moldings? Why does it have Z03 Heritage stripes? None of this matches the RPO sticker.

I hate liars...

And the bids keep getting higher...

FWIW, the dual-cat exhaust, 145 mph speedo, and "European" seats are all correct for this car. The G92 option with LB9 came with this exhaust and speedo. The seats are typical Custom Cloth Interior fare. This was originally a very nice Z28.

96LT4c4 · 08-22-2009, 09:43 AM

The thing is it wouldn't take much to make the car correct. It was probably just but back together by an incompetent body shop.

84redta · 10-07-2009, 01:46 PM

And for what it's worth, to be completely correct to the car, it's supposed to have 235/55/16s, not 245/50s. Just a point on completely stock, obviously he didn't want to spend the extra money for the slightly odder size. Never knew why they changed tire sizes, did the new offset of the wheels rub the wheel wells??

TOM-1LE · 10-07-2009, 02:05 PM

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Originally Posted by 84redta

And for what it's worth, to be completely correct to the car, it's supposed to have 235/55/16s, not 245/50s. Just a point on completely stock, obviously he didn't want to spend the extra money for the slightly odder size.

Actually, no -- with the G92 package it would have 245/50 tires which are higher-performance. The RPO for these tires is QLC, which this car has.

The car sold for $5,995 which is more than I would have paid for a rebuilt wreck with 85K. Oh well, hopefully the new owner is satisfied with it.

okfoz · 10-07-2009, 03:03 PM

245-50R16 tires were used on ALL WS6 cars from 1985 & up...

Here is what I found... unfortunately it is for 1988+ CAMARO's

88 - 90 ALL 16" Wheels got 245/50R16 Tires
91 - 92 the 245/50R16's were an option, I too would assume that they should be standard with the G92... There would have been something else that triggered it however, because there were more tires than cars equipped with G92. almost twice the amount.

84redta · 10-08-2009, 05:12 PM

Touché, my mistake. Always willing to learn something new. I was starting to wonder because i've got 235s on my 92 and was wondering why it looks like wheel well marks cutting into the side of the tire.

JTNKTZ · 10-08-2009, 06:17 PM

I just read everything and no one mentioned that the lettering is white! The window and hatch release button is white not yellow like on 90-91 camaro's.

ThePain · 10-09-2009, 02:12 AM

Anyone remember the trunk pics thread? Didn't they say that after 91, our trunks came with carpeted sides instead of those plastic panels... or was that only for verts? If that was correct, this shouldn't have those?

EDIT: No, i think it's only verts. Mah bad!

paulo57509 · 10-11-2009, 08:20 PM

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Originally Posted by JTNKTZ

I just read everything and no one mentioned that the lettering is white! The window and hatch release button is white not yellow like on 90-91 camaro's.

I noticed this right after I noticed the front spoiler didn't have the ground effect scoops.