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If the guy is a swindler he will try to get everything he can out of the car. If he knows you really want it he will try and wait you out. My point being if he is lying about the car and the odometer has been rolled back you have to know what you are getting yourself into. The car is not worth what he is asking.
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If the guy is a swindler he will try to get everything he can out of the car. If he knows you really want it he will try and wait you out
You're right. If he can actually get someone to pay him the asking price, then why would he settle for less? If there is another buyer so be it. I told him to contact me if the car isn't sold (see what I told him below)
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Originally Posted by 67tothefuture
The car is not worth what he is asking.
Yeah, definitely not worth the asking price. Probably worth half what he's asking if not less.
Here's my latest correspondence with him:
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I checked the Camaro with the DMV in the US. The car was sold on March 26 2008 in an auction, it was listed as a dealer vehicle. The Mileage of the car when it was sold at the auction was 159,638 miles. The picture you sent me of the interior was taken on March 28 2008. I thought that the mileage of the car in that picture was 59,648 miles, but now I understand it was actually 159,648 miles and that the 1 on the left didn’t show because the picture was taken at an angle from the left side.
The mileage on the car when I saw it was 55,305 miles. I thought the difference was only around 4,000 compared to the old picture. Now the difference is actually 104,000 miles, which is around 166,400 kilometers!
How did the mileage change this much?
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Originally Posted by him
Thank you for the information you provided to me.
Answer to your question. I have no answer.
Thanks
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Originally Posted by me
If the other buyer doesn’t buy the car, let me know. I would like to see the car again, so I can make you an offer.
I could've replied by saying "what do you mean you have no answer, you claim that you bought it directly from the original owner, and that you imported the car into Saudi Arabia?!", but what good would that do me? This might be my opportunity... If no one buys it I could have it properly checked, and then offer him $3,000.
He hasn't replied to me yet... I won't contact him again. I'll wait for him to come to me. Maybe it's a good idea to start looking elsewhere.
@AmorgetRS Thanks for recommending that I negotiate with the owner before re-negotiating with my wife! It would've been too soon, and for nothing!
As always, I'll let you know if he gets back to me...
Well you basically caught the guy in a lie and confronted him and he has no answer, basically because he know he is caught in a lie. I again recommend staying away from the car at anywhere near $8500. If you can get the vehicle for under $5000, the lower the better it may worth the risk for you given the difficulty of obtaining this vehicle where you live. However, you have no idea how this car was treated, some mild restoration can make a car look nice. At >150,000 miles these cars can not be expected to be real reliable, especially not knowing the mechanical/maintenance history. Good luck, but proceed slowly and w/caution.
well, on the bright side, now you have a brand new appreciation for Carfax! sadly, I think some innocent but ignorant buyer (without Carfax) will come along and overpay dearly for this car and only find out about the fraud later. from what I've seen, $3000, if the seller were to go for it, sounds like a good price even for that car, in a country where Camaros are hard to get, especially with that new law you talked about. sorry you got involved in that mess, but at least you did your homework.
Well you basically caught the guy in a lie and confronted him and he has no answer, basically because he know he is caught in a lie. I again recommend staying away from the car at anywhere near $8500. If you can get the vehicle for under $5000, the lower the better it may worth the risk for you given the difficulty of obtaining this vehicle where you live.
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Originally Posted by kizz
from what I've seen, $3000, if the seller were to go for it, sounds like a good price even for that car, in a country where Camaros are hard to get, especially with that new law you talked about.
The only reason i would've paid the high asking price of $8500 for this car was for the low mileage. The guy did mention that he has friends who import cars for a living, which indicated that he might know a few dirty tricks; and obviously he does. No way would I pay anything near $8500 now. $5000 is the limit, and I won't even run after him. I'll wait till he comes to me (if he ever does).
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Originally Posted by 67tothefuture
However, you have no idea how this car was treated, some mild restoration can make a car look nice. At >150,000 miles these cars cannot be expected to be real reliable, especially not knowing the mechanical/maintenance history. Good luck, but proceed slowly and w/caution.
I intend to be cautious. That's why I told him I'll need to see the car again, so I can take it to my friend's shop for proper inspection
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Originally Posted by kizz
well, on the bright side, now you have a brand new appreciation for Carfax! sadly, I think some innocent but ignorant buyer (without Carfax) will come along and overpay dearly for this car and only find out about the fraud later.
Unfortunately for me, this is very possible because the guy is advertising his car as being something it isn't. But in reality who ever overpays will be the person who is truly unfortunate!
I just made a "wanted" post for a 3rd gen Camaro in a local classifieds site... Who knows, maybe something will pop-up.
hey webeez28,thanks for asking.
unfortunately, I didn't take the car to my friend's shop. I e-mailed the guy telling him to contact me if the car isn't sold, so I can see the car again and make him an offer. he never replied.
at first I thought the car was gone, but then I saw that he re-posted the ad for the same price and mileage!
obviously he wants to try to get away with selling the car for a high price. i don't want to seem desperate, so i won't contact him if he doesn't reply.
i'll have to wait and see.
on the other hand, i posted a wanted ad for a 3rd gen Z28. who knows, maybe something will pop-up!
