i have no visors period in a 85 ta t-top car just dont particularly care to go back to third gen ones if the i can make the fourth gen one work with light and etc. thanks ryan

Don't know about the birds, but the 4th gen camaro visors are worse than the 3rd gen. I'm actually going to get a 3rd gen set to put into my 97 Z28! The 4th gen ones were made with cardboard, already very thin, and then the factory made a cut in the edge so that the outer edge would bend against the curved interior at the door. They all just fall apart at this cut - it's a really really bad design, and I really despise these 4th gen visors.

Unless the Pontiac visors are different than the Camaro, I'd look into something else - maybe other GM visors from other models that would fit.

mkay any other input what does look good then? come on people need ideas

Look up some Corvette visors, might work! "Shrugs shoulders"