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Old 06-15-2012, 02:48 AM
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I need to find a place to buy a somewhat cheap headliner! I have a 92 t-top Camaro and I want either black or grey. eBay is like 350-400$ for one! Anyone know of anywhere cheaper or dose anyone have one I could buy or possibly have? I want it to be in fairly nice condition.
Old 06-15-2012, 03:26 AM
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Re: Headliner!

This is somewhat cheaper.

http://www.1aauto.com/1A/headliners/...amaro/-/-/1986
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I'm thinking 75$ haha I think I'm Guna start liking the metal headliner I now have.
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Re: Headliner!

Why do you buy a car that needs repairs and you aren't willing to pay the price needed to repair it? If you want to go "cheap", then replace the headliner yourself. But, based on your comments, I'm afraid we're gonna lose another car to the future part-out list because of a few things that need fixing that can't be fixed by the current owner. If you're not willing to fix the headliner and willing to live with the metal roof, what next, weatherstripping?
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I just kinda have a hard time paying 300+ dollars for A car I only paid 1000 bucks for. And for such a little thing.
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Re: Headliner!

You could just order the headliner shell (uncovered) for about $150. http://www.1aauto.com/1A/headliners/...HL00551/472649
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Re: Headliner!

Originally Posted by Braxton16
I just kinda have a hard time paying 300+ dollars for A car I only paid 1000 bucks for. And for such a little thing.
Generally, the less you spend on a car, the more money you will have to put into it.

I agree with Scott.
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Re: Headliner!

Originally Posted by _Nick_
Generally, the less you spend on a car, the more money you will have to put into it.

I agree with Scott.
Couldn't agree more. No car you pay that little for is going to last long without needing some repairs that approach or exceed your purchase price. You get what you pay for. I bought mine for $900. I doubled that in the engine alone, and thats BEFORE I ever got to drive it.

I drove around with just the headliner backing until I got super lucky and got a black one that had got recovered but set in a garage. It has alittle bit of sag above the pass. side, but thats an easy fix considering the material is in perfect shape. The best part, it cost me nothing....other then the $120 speeding ticket I got on the way there.

The best advise I can give you, look around on craigslist and maybe you will stumble on someone that has one in good shape for a little bit of $$$. Or just pay the price for a new one. But whatever you do, don't continue that attitude of "well I only payed ___ for it so ____ repair is to expensive so I just won't repair it" Thats a long road that only ends with another one of these cars getting parted and ending up next in line at the local crusher.
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Re: Headliner!

Originally Posted by nike5580
You could just order the headliner shell (uncovered) for about $150. http://www.1aauto.com/1A/headliners/...HL00551/472649
Have you tryed these? Are they nice or do they look good at all?
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Re: Headliner!

Nice cars aren't cheap, and cheap cars aren't nice. Either be satisfied with your cheap car, or pony up the cash to make it nice, or best idea yet, figure out how to fix stuff yourself so that you can bridge the gap a little bit between cheap and nice.
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Re: Headliner!

Originally Posted by Braxton16
Have you tryed these? Are they nice or do they look good at all?
I have not tried these myself, but am looking at a headliner repair/replace sometime soon. The part I linked to is the same that ws listed in post #2, only with out fabric over the board. You could install it as is for now, or go to a Joann's and get some fabric and cover it.
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http://www.rickscamaros.com/camaro-t...Product_Viewed
I found this one also what do you guys think?
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Re: Headliner!

My Camaro is no where a $900 car thank GOD, but the above posters are exactly correct. Nice cars aren't cheap and cheap cars aren't nice and in the long run you will shell out more cash replacing the cheap stuff with quality and correct pieces. Do it right the first time so you don't have to do it again.

I replaced my headliner, sun visors and sail panels myself with material I got from Classic Industries. Replacing the headliner material on an old panel was the scariest thing I've ever done. You get one chance to get it right or the material is junk. You can do it but I highly suggest if you have no experience in fixing, repairing, replacing, modifying, or using the correct tools when doing a job, then outsource the work to have it done correctly.

3rd gens are quickly vansihing from the face of the earth so each one should be treated the same as any fragile and irreplacible work of art, carefully. The days of treating these cars as mail box smashers are over, restore it don't wreck it.

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Re: Headliner!

You can buy a replacement headliner and put it in yourself, pay someone to do it, or first try to do the repair yourself. the foam backed material is pretty cheap at your local fabric shop. If that doesn't work out you haven't spent much money, you can still get the replacement, and then you'll already have the experience of removing and replacing the complete headliner. Most of us learned how to do things on our cars by actually doing them and I'm sure that there are stickys or videos to help you through it. Anyway that you decide to go, look at it as a learning experience.
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Originally Posted by Richboll
...Most of us learned how to do things on our cars by actually doing them ....
Amen brother. I've worked on and replaced things on my Camaro that I would never try on my DDs. I can almost say with 100% assurance that I've had my eye ***** on every single nut and bolt on my car. Just do it.
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Re: Headliner!

I just replaced my headliner last week purchased from Rick's Camaro. It's made by Parts Unlimited, Inc; you can check out the PUI website for more info and an installation video. It's very well done and definitely worth the $225 (incl shipping), plus it fit very nicely. When I removed my old headliner it just crumbled and tore by the seatbelt opening. Would have never tried to recover it. If you sign up for Rick's Camaro's email coupons, you can get 15% off of interior parts within a month or two.
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Re: Headliner!

This is a cheap temporary way to keep up any headliner & padding you have left till you can actually do it or have it done....you can buy "twist pins" that are spiral pins that will turn into the liner & not fall straight out, I got 2 packages of 10 for about $7 at Hobby Lobby and spent 10 or 15 minutes total time using them. It doesn't look great or anything, but it's certainly a major improvement over the sag only supported by the interior light effects.
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Re: Headliner!

anyone ever try to paint a tan T-TOP headliner black? I found a nice one for fifty bucks but it's the wrong color!
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Re: Headliner!

if ur headliner is still good and want to change the color go the nearset shop where they sell interior fabric buy ur self a black or grey headliner fabric and some fast tack 92 glue and replace it yourself its not that hard and its under 50bucks i replaced mine 87 t-top headliner with black suede and it looks nice
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man im having hell trying to sell my hard top headliner (black). everybody thinks $75 is too expensive....and here are people paying 300 for aftermarkets...............i dont get it, most of the time guys on here are cheap wads, and end up having better luck with cl buyers, but its the opposite now. people on craigslist want all my parts for free or next to nothing lol
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I replaced my original drooping headliner last summer with a $200 new one that has an ABS backing and modern foam. IMHO if yours is an original GM designed fiber backed, cheap foam headliner, it's only a matter of time until it self destructs; not worth it if it was free. If yours is an ABS headliner, then you have a decent price on it.
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good point. but yeah, original, not abs. oh well, i would still rather take my chances with that than having a sagging one rubbing the top of my hair lol. but since this brings up that point, what do you think about dash pads then?????????? hmmm kinda the same huh?
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Originally Posted by cIaRmOaCrZo
good point. but yeah, original, not abs. oh well, i would still rather take my chances with that than having a sagging one rubbing the top of my hair lol. but since this brings up that point, what do you think about dash pads then?????????? hmmm kinda the same huh?
Fiberglass // resin the inside?
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If your original backer board is in decent shape you can clean it and put a coat of resin on it. It will be a heck of a lot sturdier and fit better then those ABS replacements. I did that to mine and then had it recovered at a professional interior shop and it looks brand new. It is much easier to buy an ABS replacement, but the extra effort in reusing the original board is worth it.
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on ur dash pad try to tape over the cracks then put 1/8 foam over the dash and then apply a marine vinyl over!! why marine, because that is used on boats and will last way longer when the sun hits it
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1a headliners aren't bad, but I remember paying 150 a few years ago.
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Re: Headliner!

Originally Posted by Braxton16
I just kinda have a hard time paying 300+ dollars for A car I only paid 1000 bucks for. And for such a little thing.
I don't blame you. I took mine to an upholstery shop and they recovered the panel with stuff that's a pretty close match to the original, nicer though. It didn't cost any where near $300, closer to $150.
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classic industries has everything you will ever ever need
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U can still do it cheap and it be nice what I did was bought a headliner from the junk yard that the foam was still good for 20$ and then wrapped it in fabric from WalMart I got for 15$ it may not be the best but was intended to be a temp and gave me good practice so the next time I do it I can do it with better material but way happy with how it turned out the first time
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I paid around $250 shipped for mine from 1A Auto, fits pretty well, Just take your time while installing it and it will turn out fine. Going from my shredded up original one to this one was so worth the time and money.
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I am probably not much older than you Braxton at 21. I bought my 86 TA for 800 bucks. The interior was all there but the downside was that there was some work to be done on the engine. No big deal I am a car nut. Most people either really love their camaros or firebirds... Most people here will watch it die of old age and then revive it and bring back to full glory again. I am one of those people. I am doing a full restoration/customization and I plan to hold on to that car as long as I am around. If you are willing to put some elbow grease in I can tell you how to fix your headliner for about 75 dollars. I can tell you this because I am in the proccess of doing it myself. I just finished my sail panels tonight and I will be done with the headliner tomorrow morning. I have pictures on my camara I will try to post. That trick with the ressin is good information and an option. I plan on regluing my board and using a coulple of staples to keep it from seperating. The glue in the main section of the headliner will be enough to keep it from seperating.

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These are the sail pannels That I just finished re-upholstering. For the cost of $20 for the upholstery glue in an arisol can and $50 for the Enduratex perforated vinyl (1 Sq yrd) I have covered both of the sail panels and the headliner. Need more glue for the headliner to be satisfied. It can be done cheeply if you are willing to put the time and energy in. It isn't hard but you just need to keep your wits about you and don't try to rush it.
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Originally Posted by ZZ3 Z28
My Camaro is no where a $900 car thank GOD, but the above posters are exactly correct. Nice cars aren't cheap and cheap cars aren't nice and in the long run you will shell out more cash replacing the cheap stuff with quality and correct pieces. Do it right the first time so you don't have to do it again.

I replaced my headliner, sun visors and sail panels myself with material I got from Classic Industries. Replacing the headliner material on an old panel was the scariest thing I've ever done. You get one chance to get it right or the material is junk. You can do it but I highly suggest if you have no experience in fixing, repairing, replacing, modifying, or using the correct tools when doing a job, then outsource the work to have it done correctly.

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Question for you ZZ do you have any pictures of your sun visors? I will tackle the headliner and sail panels before even touching the sun visors. What did you do for replacing them? its those seams that scare me on them. I am curious to see how yours turned out.
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its actually quite easy once you get the headliner removed... You lay the material out and its easiest I have found if you start from the center and work your way our smoothing as you go. Take it a little bit at a time and make sure to do it right. That upholstery glue means buisness. It took 25 years for that original glue to come down once it dried and now i am redoing it and hopefully I won't deal with it again for another 25. So test fitting before glue is a good idea. The old material comes off really easy too. You just peel it up little by little with gentle pulling and using your hand to keep the backing from coming up with the material. And these backings are a lot like painting... IF your prep/clean it WELL then the results are fantastic. If you rush it and don't prep well it will just fall down again. my experience in doing my headliner this weekend.

And yes I am a fan of the old school muscle car interiors/fabrics and thats what I am putting in mine. I don't much care for the cloth as you tend to find it in cheaper cars and i think the camaros and firebirds deserve better but that just my opinion.
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Re: Headliner!

Originally Posted by fltche1
its actually quite easy once you get the headliner removed... You lay the material out and its easiest I have found if you start from the center and work your way our smoothing as you go. Take it a little bit at a time and make sure to do it right. That upholstery glue means buisness. It took 25 years for that original glue to come down once it dried and now i am redoing it and hopefully I won't deal with it again for another 25. So test fitting before glue is a good idea. The old material comes off really easy too. You just peel it up little by little with gentle pulling and using your hand to keep the backing from coming up with the material. And these backings are a lot like painting... IF your prep/clean it WELL then the results are fantastic. If you rush it and don't prep well it will just fall down again. my experience in doing my headliner this weekend.

And yes I am a fan of the old school muscle car interiors/fabrics and thats what I am putting in mine. I don't much care for the cloth as you tend to find it in cheaper cars and i think the camaros and firebirds deserve better but that just my opinion.
Do you have any completed and installed photos of this project? I'd like to see how it all turned out.
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