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Im tring to find an exhaust shop that will touch my car, and well its difficult! I would like some picture that im able to take to the exhaust shop of how other people routed thiers, and how well tucked up they are. It will be 3" piping, so if anyone has a good pictures of theirs it would help me out alot!
Thanks
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This is definitly something that hasnt been documented well from the people who have completed the swaps.
You could always print out the images from hawks..
Thats all I see on their site...
Hope it helps
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1991 Z-28 - LS1 & T-56 Swap - 4.10 4th Gen Rear
ARE Stage 1 Heads - 2.02" intake, 1.57" exhaust, Comp 918 Springs
Thunder Racing Custom Camshaft - 224/224 .563/.563 114 LSA Head Flow Sheet - My Gallery - Video of My Car
NP mang, I just remembered seeing the pics on Hawks when I purchased em, so I did a direct link to save ya some time....and possibly myself, who knows I might need to print this thread out when I take my car to an exhaust shop.
Looking at the picture though, I wonder why kind of ground clearence these cars have, look at the driver's side header pipe going to the Y has the pipe going around the Trans member and going across under the torque arm, and the seems like it would be a bad place for a low spot, especially around speed bumps....dunno, I guess I'll tackle that when I get to it
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1991 Z-28 - LS1 & T-56 Swap - 4.10 4th Gen Rear
ARE Stage 1 Heads - 2.02" intake, 1.57" exhaust, Comp 918 Springs
Thunder Racing Custom Camshaft - 224/224 .563/.563 114 LSA Head Flow Sheet - My Gallery - Video of My Car
That's my car. And yes they had to trim the cross member to fit the exhaust. I wasn't happy about it, But it was clear there was no other way. My swap was done before the headers came out. Also it's a bit of a problem on speed bumps or steep driveways.
__________________ 1989 rs ragtop 2002 LS1, 6M and 3.73 posi by HAWKS ,KB subframes, edelbrock towerbrace , TDS wonder bar,and lots of Spohn stuff . So the front and back wheels don't touch each other.
Last edited by 89rsragtop; 06-03-2006 at 09:53 AM.
That's my car. And yes they had to trim the cross member to fit the exhaust. I wasn't happy about it, But it was clear there was no other way. My swap was done before the headers came out. Also it's a bit of a problem on speed bumps or steep driveways.
Good to know whos car it is.
So you do have clearence problems, that sucks....maybe I'm gonna go with oval tubing...
Then again, I REALLY want the exaust to come out the sides right before the rear tires, doubt its possible though
im finally getting around to taking pictures of mine completed. Its a 3" y-pipe, all mild steel with a Jet Hot coating on it. No CATs and 2 O2 bungs were put in.
I wish i didnt have emission test over here in cali Must be nice not to have them. That why pipe is sharp looking by the way. Cant wait to see up on the car.
That's my car. And yes they had to trim the cross member to fit the exhaust. I wasn't happy about it, But it was clear there was no other way.
sure there is.
use a crossmember that has cutouts to clear the exhaust. theres were tons of pics of it on here before....
search for posts by my username containing the word "drews"
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quick example:
I have the drews crossmember, and the pipes slide nicely in the cutouts, once i get it on ill post up how well it looks.
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Originally Posted by MrDude_1
sure there is.
use a crossmember that has cutouts to clear the exhaust. theres were tons of pics of it on here before....
search for posts by my username containing the word "drews"
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quick example:
use a crossmember that has cutouts to clear the exhaust. theres were tons of pics of it on here before....
search for posts by my username containing the word "drews"
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quick example:
__________________ 1989 rs ragtop 2002 LS1, 6M and 3.73 posi by HAWKS ,KB subframes, edelbrock towerbrace , TDS wonder bar,and lots of Spohn stuff . So the front and back wheels don't touch each other.
I purchased my X-member before his was available. Does his work with the Spohn Adjustable Tq Arm?
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1991 Z-28 - LS1 & T-56 Swap - 4.10 4th Gen Rear
ARE Stage 1 Heads - 2.02" intake, 1.57" exhaust, Comp 918 Springs
Thunder Racing Custom Camshaft - 224/224 .563/.563 114 LSA Head Flow Sheet - My Gallery - Video of My Car
I purchased my X-member before his was available. Does his work with the Spohn Adjustable Tq Arm?
only if you're good with a welder........ lol.
no, its just a crossmember.
im running a torque arm that connects to a bracket i attached to the floorpan.. if you have a spohn crossmember already, and basic fab skills, it wouldnt be hard to adapt a copy of his mount to the drews crossmember, then re-enforce the crossmember...
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make a bracket to attach to the floorpan, and connect the torque arm to it... this would be the route i would take.
I'm even more disapointed with the Spohn set up after today. I rolled the car out of the garage for the first time, and the right side hangs down so low it scraps the edge of the garage, looked like my car left blood cause of the red powdercoat on the concrete.
And if the exhaust is lower than that....holy hell, I'm gonna have to put monster truck springs in to get any ground clearance for daily driving.
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1991 Z-28 - LS1 & T-56 Swap - 4.10 4th Gen Rear
ARE Stage 1 Heads - 2.02" intake, 1.57" exhaust, Comp 918 Springs
Thunder Racing Custom Camshaft - 224/224 .563/.563 114 LSA Head Flow Sheet - My Gallery - Video of My Car
I'm even more disapointed with the Spohn set up after today. I rolled the car out of the garage for the first time, and the right side hangs down so low it scraps the edge of the garage, looked like my car left blood cause of the red powdercoat on the concrete.
And if the exhaust is lower than that....holy hell, I'm gonna have to put monster truck springs in to get any ground clearance for daily driving.
The hawks y-pipe sits almost level with the spohn torque arm on the passenger side. Atleast mine does. Definately hangs down low. I ended up cutting my y-pipe in several areas to get it to fit the way i want it. some of the angles are just way off and had to be twisted slightly. I understand that every car is differnt but they need to revamp the whole y-pipe. It could easily be made to fit better. And yes, you definately have to clearance both sides of the spohn trans crossmember.
Here are some pics of the crossmember. Oh, almost forgot. I ran into a problem mounting the 02 sensor on the passenger side. Couldnt get it to screw in. I ended up having to pull the header back off and found there was welding bead blocking the passage. Wasnt happy having to pull the header back off but atleast it was a simple fix. I would have thought quality control would be better from stainless works...........jt
I used a Drews Crossmember and made my own. Much cleaner fit than the Hawks unit going around the frame. I managed to make the Collector the lowest part. No installed pics yet as I have only completed mock up engine is back out now but heres the y pipe on the floor. Full 304 Stainless
So have you driven this much? It looks like your pipe is laying on the frame rail and sitting slight lower than the X-member.
I dont have exhaust yet so I've been looking at how people are doing this. Problem is, I've already hit the X-Member getting out of the garage, so I was wondering if your having ground clearence problems
So have you driven this much? It looks like your pipe is laying on the frame rail and sitting slight lower than the X-member.
I dont have exhaust yet so I've been looking at how people are doing this. Problem is, I've already hit the X-Member getting out of the garage, so I was wondering if your having ground clearence problems
I have almost a thousand miles on it. Yes, I do hit things like speed bumps, so I need to plan my routes in the parking lots carefully. regular driving has been fine so far.
Pics of my old setup (y-pipe, single catback) are in that link. I'm running the "drews double hump" T56 x-member. Its the only way to do it.
*Now I have the same SW Hawks LT's with the drews x-member, but I custom fabbed my own 2.5" all mandrel bent duals with an x-pipe, sweet thunder mufflers (old school chambered pipes) and tailpipes out the rear. I'll have to post pics and vids of it soon. I've got more ground clearance than a stock car...
The "drews" xmember is the hot ticket to any T56 swap with LT's and a nice y-pipe or duals