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Old 09-03-2009, 11:37 PM   #1
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LM7/T56 crank, no start...

Those words sound so familiar. Anyways, I figured out what I thought was the last of my issues today. (I had the coil signal wires ran to the wrong bank of cylinders...).

The motor is an '02 lm7; ls6 manifold/rails/injectors and the stainless works headers. It cranks fine and fires almost instantaneously now. However, as soon as it fires, it backfires and dies. I haven't hooked a 'noid light to my injectors but the plugs are getting wet and I have ~60psi off the rail at all times. My scanner shows an rpm signal(so I would presume good crank position sensor?), fairly accurate IAT and CTS temps, injector pulse width values and shows outputs from the o2s. Motor HAD bad grounds but I have added three more. The PCM is a red/blue from '02 truck that I had Vince @ Trifecta Performance flash with MAF, rear o2 and VATS delete and told him about the ls6 intake and injectors.

Help me out guys, where do I go from here?
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Old 09-03-2009, 11:46 PM   #2
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Re: LM7/T56 crank, no start...

My first inclination is to suspect the ECM programming, but I dunno for sure... Are you getting any codes??

I don't suppose you'd have a second, compatible ECM you could swap it out with...?
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Old 09-03-2009, 11:50 PM   #3
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Re: LM7/T56 crank, no start...

Honestly that was my first thought as well, but Trifecta has done a significant number of tunes with others without hiccups before... Maybe I'll call him tomorrow to see what he says.

No codes whatsoever. And a no on the second ECM. I bought it brand new from my work and now we don't stock them. hehe.
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Re: LM7/T56 crank, no start...

Well. Figured it out. I guess you could say it WAS programing. Emailed Vince and he said he double checked his logs and they say he deleted VATS. He also suggested that usually swaps like this (that he has delt with) do this when something it messed up with the MAF. Which startled me because I asked to have the MAF tuned out and run a MAP only tune so I had NO MAF or maf wiring. Picked up a brand new MAF from work, applied power to the MAF and signal to the PCM and it fires up no problem now. Holy crap is it loud. Side dump exhaust with no muffler inside a tiny garage. I'm happy. Tonight I'll dump coolant in it and hook up the last brake line and try to take it for a spin!
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Right on man, congrats on the milestone!
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