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Old 12-12-2009, 07:11 PM   #1
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Bench test LSx PCM

I would like to fire up the PCM I have and take a peek with HP Tuners. I have a OBD II connector and a blue PCM connector. Here is what I have so far:

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2 Serial data
4 GND
5 GND
16 +12V


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1 BLK PCM GND
2 LT GRN 12V Ref
19 PNK Ign pos voltage
20 ORN Battery pos voltage
40 BLK GND
57 ORN Battery pos voltage
58 DK GRN Class 2 serial data


I'm not sure if I need the 12V ref (pin 2), but if I supply a GND and 12V to the rest, I should be able to communicate to the PCM right?
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Re: Bench test LSx PCM

I use this


Use alligator clips and you can attach it to any car battery

B2 is to the crank pos sensor, it is not needed for a PCM flash
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Old 12-13-2009, 08:49 AM   #3
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Re: Bench test LSx PCM

Perfect! Thank you.
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Re: Bench test LSx PCM

THAT'S pretty cool Pocket! (Dare I say FAQ-worthy?)
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Old 12-13-2009, 07:30 PM   #5
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Re: Bench test LSx PCM

Well, It was a success... kinda. When I read the PCM, all I get is garbage. Not sure if this is my box or the PCM.
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Re: Bench test LSx PCM

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Well, It was a success... kinda. When I read the PCM, all I get is garbage. Not sure if this is my box or the PCM.
What did you use for a ground?
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Old 12-13-2009, 09:17 PM   #7
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What did you use for a ground?
I tied all the grounds to the same point, the power supply ground.
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Re: Bench test LSx PCM

Odd

I burned both my PCMs with that miniharness without issue. My tuner said that if the PCM was fried it wouldnt even read and yours is definitely reading. My power/ground were both to a car battery
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Odd

I burned both my PCMs with that miniharness without issue. My tuner said that if the PCM was fried it wouldnt even read and yours is definitely reading. My power/ground were both to a car battery

It seems the main difference is my power supply. The other is that my switch to turn the box on, is on the ground side of the circuit... Because of the nifty lit rocker switch I used. I'd be shocked if that was the issue. I wonder if the 12v 3amp power supply I have set up doesn't have enough balls. Ill make an adapter for a the cigarette lighter and a set of alligator clips.
If that doesn't fix it, it can't be the power source.
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The switch is for IGN power, not to interrupt ground. The battery cable isnt removed each time you shut the car off. I used a $2 switch from advance auto and it is doing fine. The fuse at the start of the circuit keeps everything from being burned up. Uber-anal people can put a relay in, but there relay isnt a need
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Just a WAG, but an 110VAC power supply probably doesn't produce a clean 12VDC.
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Re: Bench test LSx PCM

My switch position shouldn't matter. When on, everything gets power that is supposed to, which is fed from a fuse.

I just tried the power supply from my Xbox 360. Still a no go, in car with aligator clips is next.

I assume that even if a PCM was locked, I should be able to get further than this.
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Old 12-18-2009, 05:07 PM   #13
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Re: Bench test LSx PCM

*Update*

I posted this on HP Tuners too. It seems I have a blank PCM. This means someone with a Tech 2 or take it to the dealer for a flash.
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Re: Bench test LSx PCM

FWIW, I use a 12V 500mA adapter for an offboard to read GTP PCM's, I would imagine that's all you need for an LS1 also.
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