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Old 03-13-2013, 12:16 PM
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Re: Ls1 engine 500 hp

No it will not be dangerous just get some sfc and you should be good.
As for the build you could do it in a very good budget im at around $2000 in parts for my turbo setup and should push around 600rwhp at around 15psi and this is with a stock 4.8
If your budget is $6000. I would get this
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Re: Ls1 engine 500 hp

Thanks both of you! I will read all that stuff.

I will definitely look into that setup sickrs

There are so many different ways to do this so I have been reading a ton of build threads. Definitely staying busy. Also been reading books on the Ls engines to better understand them
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yeah theres hundreds of combos you could build very budget friendly ones and big money ones i did mine budget friendly way under $6000 and thats including the whole engine and tranny swap.
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Damn haha you definitely got some good deals
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Yeah to start off got the car cheap with the 4.8 done and completed it heres a pic of how it looks right now some motivation to go turbo
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Re: Ls1 engine 500 hp

Actually I think I read your build thread already haha

Damn you make me want to get this done so bad.

Looks sexy as hell
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Re: Ls1 engine 500 hp

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Actually I think I read your build thread already haha

Damn you make me want to get this done so bad.

Looks sexy as hell
Thanks.

Yeah ive had my build thread for YEARS! haha and still not done with any of my projects
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Lol you never will be fully done. It's an everlasting project

Definitely have some motivation to get this done. Now you or me wanting to push 600 hp lol
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Re: Ls1 engine 500 hp

Haha thats true...
Now back to topic don't want to hijack your thread.
If i where you just swap in a stock 5.3 engine with a ls6 cam with a t76 and you will reach your goals with that alone and enjoy it.
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Re: Ls1 engine 500 hp

Now by leaving it stock won't it cause faster wear on the engine. I would assume a turbo would cause a lot of strain on an engine and over a period of time will need to get fixed up
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Yea but there has being lots of people running boosted 5.3 and 4.8 all stock engines for over 10k miles and they are good as long as your tune is good you should not have any problem at all. Instead what i think will go before the engine are gonna be your rear end and transmission.
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Re: Ls1 engine 500 hp

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Now by leaving it stock won't it cause faster wear on the engine. I would assume a turbo would cause a lot of strain on an engine and over a period of time will need to get fixed up
as long tune is good and not going 1000hp

seen stock 5.3 hit close to 900 hp on stock internals
but running that in street car longevity wise is questionable only a matter of time before start spitting metal and bending rods etc

you can never go wrong with upgrading pistons and rods stock crank can handle the poser
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Re: Ls1 engine 500 hp

As Zach mentioned anyways why would you want over 600rwhp on a daily car that will beat any car that wants to go against you driving around lol.
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Re: Ls1 engine 500 hp

It's not going to be a daily driver weekend cruiser and take it to the strip alot
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Oh ok then you will have nothing to worry about then just buy a 5.3 some arp rod bolts, head studs and slap a ls6 cam and a s475 and tune and you got your 600rwhp drivable too
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Re: Ls1 engine 500 hp

That is pretty legit. How much do you think that would cost? And will te engine last for awhile?
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Re: Ls1 engine 500 hp

LOOK around dont rush and you will find good deals I have a 6.0 t78 turbokit that I have less than 1200 into so then I would need a ecu and wireing

I got the lq4 for 250 then got ls3 heads then got a LS3 in trade and sold the lq4 with harness and ecu with the ls3 heads for 3200 I am installing the motor in trade for a forged 383 alum head SBC (i can sell for 2k easy)

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I am installing a all aluminium 6.0 L76 LS3 heads Holley hiram intake 102 mm Holley dominator ecu 4l80e built ky turbo kit t78 and I never once had to pull from my bank acount its all on trades buying and selling (and I powdercoat)
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Re: Ls1 engine 500 hp

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as long tune is good and not going 1000hp

seen stock 5.3 hit close to 900 hp on stock internals
but running that in street car longevity wise is questionable only a matter of time before start spitting metal and bending rods etc

you can never go wrong with upgrading pistons and rods stock crank can handle the poser
Buddy has a 4600+ lb silverado with a weak rod 5.3 thats been running 600-700 whp for couple years now on street. Excellent tune, 7500 rpm to boot. No issues yet. I agree up over 800+ could really be pushing it with fatigue life but for a yearly drag car on budget lol its doable
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Re: Ls1 engine 500 hp

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LOOK around dont rush and you will find good deals I have a 6.0 t78 turbokit that I have less than 1200 into so then I would need a ecu and wireing

I got the lq4 for 250 then got ls3 heads then got a LS3 in trade and sold the lq4 with harness and ecu with the ls3 heads for 3200 I am installing the motor in trade for a forged 383 alum head SBC (i can sell for 2k easy)

Car stuff is all about trading buying and selling and knowing the right parts to get. Its how I support my hobby


I am installing a all aluminium 6.0 L76 LS3 heads Holley hiram intake 102 mm Holley dominator ecu 4l80e built ky turbo kit t78 and I never once had to pull from my bank acount its all on trades buying and selling (and I powdercoat)
lol thats how i support my hobby also only thing i bought new was hmmmm let me think tires and wheels lol
sent you a pm ?? about powdercoating

Originally Posted by Orr89RocZ
Buddy has a 4600+ lb silverado with a weak rod 5.3 thats been running 600-700 whp for couple years now on street. Excellent tune, 7500 rpm to boot. No issues yet. I agree up over 800+ could really be pushing it with fatigue life but for a yearly drag car on budget lol its doable
those turbo chevy truck guys are putting out impressive numbers and times and best thing it is the ultimate sleeper imo

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Re: Ls1 engine 500 hp

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That is pretty legit. How much do you think that would cost? And will te engine last for awhile?
yes it will last as long as you get it tuned by someone who know what there doing
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Re: Ls1 engine 500 hp

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I can do all the research in the world it won't help if I don't understand the concept behind it and what happens to the engine when you add a turbo. That is why I am asking you guys. You can explain things in better terms and easier to understand. And everyone's build is different so to understand what I need I have set a budget and seeing if is a realistic goal
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Re: Ls1 engine 500 hp

Has anybody on here made an auto LS1 get 450+ rwhp with bolt ons, a cam & ported factory LS1/LS6/5.3 heads?
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Re: Ls1 engine 500 hp

The thing about your goal to make 500rwhp N/A then add boost is that to make 500+rwhp N/A you're going to need high compression that won't be "ideal" for boost application.

Ton's of guys on ls1tech sell their big cube N/A motors(big head big cam 427's etc) and drop in a stock bottom end 5.3's or 6.0's with turbos.


http://ls1tech.com/forums/forced-ind...l80e-sold.html

If you want N/A check out this build:

H/C 346 LS1's making 522 rwhp naturally aspirated through an auto:

http://ls1tech.com/forums/dynamomete...4-10-11-a.html



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Originally Posted by KingsHustleLA
Has anybody on here made an auto LS1 get 450+ rwhp with bolt ons, a cam & ported factory LS1/LS6/5.3 heads?
There's a few making 450rwhp with big cams, this one is a New Era Cam full bolt-ons and stock factory heads(screen name "studderin"):


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Re: Ls1 engine 500 hp

Originally Posted by twizle2
I have been soo much research to figure out the cost to build a 500 rwhp ls1. There are so many mixed results so it is hard to figure out what is possible and what is not. I have a $6,000 budget and want to know if it is possible (without nos). I was planning to over build the engine so I could add a turbo or super Charger later
Just curious!! How did you go with your ls1, I just now saw your post. There is a Howard cam that alone will get you 460hp ..
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Re: Ls1 engine 500 hp

Originally Posted by KingsHustleLA
Has anybody on here made an auto LS1 get 450+ rwhp with bolt ons, a cam & ported factory LS1/LS6/5.3 heads?
I have a friend with a LS1 that made 480RWHP with a T56 transmission in a '69 Camaro. Stock short block, ported and decked 241 heads at 11:1 compression (supposedly the less desirable heads), LS6 intake, and a custom cam by EPS. The cam is what does it. Runs to 7500 rpm and drives fine in traffic. He had a Texas Speed MS4 cam before that and it sucked in traffic and made less power.

I consider that example to be the exception and not the norm. Most people don't have a prayer of making that much power with a naturally aspirated LS1, let alone 500RWHP, and still have reasonable driving manners. That job is better performed by the 4" bore and larger blocks (6.0 and up) and the selection of heads that fit those bores.

To the OP, my suggestion is to start with a 6.0 or 6.2 with rectangular port 72cc heads and drop a big cam in it. This will get you close to 500RWHP for now and the car will be a ton of fun to drive. You can add a turbo or supercharger and hit 600RWHP no problem and the only thing you'll need to change is the cam. The rectangle port heads are current design and give you more choices for intake and supercharger bolt-ons. You can use a cheap LS3 intake and not waste tons of money on an over priced FAST 102. For what it is worth, i have another friend that put his full weight Buick Regal in the 10's with stock L92 heads (truck version of LS3 head) on a 6.0 short block, carbureted. Who cares what the Hp is..... he's in the 10's!

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Re: Ls1 engine 500 hp

Originally Posted by twizle2
Also will 500 hp be "dangerous" on a t top car? Just curious
500RWHP needs to be respected in any car. This is a power level where you can break loose tires at freeway speed. It is easy to get out of shape and crash. Also, it's too much power to harness on the street at any speed below legal speeds. Self-control and good sense are what will keep you safe and out of jail.

I've had only 1 ticket in my life and it was in a supercharged Corvette. Go figure. I also lost control of that car and ended up about 100 feet off the road. Again, go figure.

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Re: Ls1 engine 500 hp

.... and I just realized this thread has been dead for a year.
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