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Cleaned up my girl a bit. Polish and Wax in the spring.

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awesome build dude how are the speakers
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The sound system is killer! I need to do a nicer exhaust soon... See ya Thurs!
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The sound system is killer! I need to do a nicer exhaust soon... See ya Thurs!
the 8th is this Wednesday


what is your plans for exhaust
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Doh! I wanted to run new headers with a 3" but my friend is determined to make true duals with an x pipe for when I go forced induction with new heads. I know that can be a headache on these cars though.
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Kinda quiet vid of my new exhaust work here...

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Doh! I wanted to run new headers with a 3" but my friend is determined to make true duals with an x pipe for when I go forced induction with new heads. I know that can be a headache on these cars though.
If you run hedman LT's the collector will try to occupy the same space as the slave cylinder on the T5. HOWEVER... if your buddy can cut off the collector, extend it a few inches and slightly BFH it where the slave cylinder is, you can actually route a dual 2.5 pipe OVER the crossmember and get AMAZING ground clearance.

I saw a buddy of mine do it to another friend's car, and he said he would only do it if you had solid motor mounts, but the ground clearance from that setup was incredible. Not much needs a dual 3 inch setup. A dual 2.5 is equal (baaaaaaaaarely bigger than a single 3.5) to a single 3.5, and a 3 inch pipe is supposedly good to ... what? 450hp?

I would seriously consider that. if you want to see what it looked like, it's in this youtube video from 39 to 51 seconds in:

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I'm dieng to know what kind of fin you have and where you got it. Looks sweet. And did you buy that black strip on the back bumper??
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fin? he has the hawks 5inch spoiler. and the black thing i thought he painted on but not sure. easy enough to do. the thing sounds great bud, you should get a friend and take some drive by vids i wanna hear that thing roar some more
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actually

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O sweet thanks!
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InfernalVortex those are sweet setups! That x pipe one you pointed out looks exactly like what I want!

You guys answered all the questions before I got here! All from Hawks...

I will get a vid of the car tearing loose soon... If I wasn't doing a complete new system soon I would definitely install a resonator... The car is very very loud at all RPM ranges... It has a single Flowmaster in the rear, nothing in between. I push in the clutch and coast by cops now

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i built those systems. let me know if you have any questions specifically
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i built those systems. let me know if you have any questions specifically
Thank you! I may ask a few quick qs soon. Very nice work, and I appreciate the open offer to ask!

My old V belt driven powersteering pump has been growing a persistently bigger leak out the pump seal, so I am looking at throwing on my GM performance serpentine system I have in the basement on this week. I love the clean simple look of my car right now under the hood. Very 60s, but the reliability of the serp system (Where as V... multiple belts, having to tighten frequently etc...), and higher amp alternator + all new accessories, outweighs the loss of classic appeal... Heck it's an 80s car, might as well use the 80s top of the line technology for the time!

Here is a pic from today I thought was cool... It has been such a mild winter, but we are looking at three days of snow in a row later this week. NOT looking forward to it


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from that view i could just imagine a thin gold or black pinstripe going the length of the car. i still love how simple yet unmistakably forceful it looks
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Installed my serpentine setup last Sunday. This has been the BIGGEST single improvement to the car yet. I don't know if it was the age of my accessories, or the inefficiencies of the V belt setup, but now the car runs much smoother through the entire power band. I picked up a few MPG and the car is now a pleasure to drive at low speed around town, or the city here in Boston. A lot of the low speed jerkiness is entirely gone and the engine revs much more freely. I just have to reroute a few lines to make the engine bay cleaner, but I am very happy! I am about ready to choose my EFI setup. I am not sure if I should cheat and get the Powerjection, or get into a MPFI setup.


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Looking for tranny advice... I have decided to put off other mods until I can grab hold of a T56... There are a lot of resources here for the swap, but anything else one can suggest? I want this to happen in the next month, before I spend my tax money on something else! Whenever I wallop on the T5 I get case flex, which scares me.
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I would honestly just run the T5 til it pops. Go ahead and get a T56 if you want to use some super short gears in the rear end, but dont get too hung up on it til you need it.

Do you KNOW you're getting case flex?

Btw, with my experimentation with T56 hydraulics, I think you should keep your thirdgen pedals and run the T5 hydraulics on the T56. The only issue is the T5 hydraulic line isnt long enough, so if you can source a T56 braided line it should work fine. You may have to drill out the opening in the T5 slave slightly, but 2 seconds with a drill is all you need with that, not a big deal. I can get you the size if you need to know.

I think the T5 hydraulics with thirdgen pedals and longer hydraulic line should keep your clutch feel very similar to what it is now. I am running a Cavalier slave in mine, huge 1.25 inch slave cylinder (stock T56 slave is 11/16's and may not work, the pressure plate was disengaging so far the clutch fork was banging on it when I had mine.) that gives me a VERY soft pedal with engagement just off the floor. Not a bad setup, but I think the T5 slave (1.00 inch) is a better compromise between the stiff pedal, high engagement feel of the T56 slave, and the super soft, floor engagement feel of the Cavalier slave. The master cylinders are the same size for both transmissions.

That should save you a bit of money, actually, if you can figure out how to source some longer hydraulic line. Maybe a shop near you can fab up some? I wish I had my original T56 hydros around... They sell for nearly $200 new from GM.
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Thanks for the input... The T5 began to leak soon after I had it rebuilt... Mostly from the rear seal, but a little where the tail shaft bolts on. I payed for it, to be done over again, and it was fine for a few weeks, before it developed the rear seal leak, and more profusely out of the tail shaft area... I am running a poly trans mount, and poly engine mounts... That combined with the roughness of the TrueTrac dif, doesn't seem to make the T5 very happy. I don't really beat on the car, or bang the gears to often, so I figured I would just upgrade... The funny thing is that GM didn't switch over to a hydraulic clutch until 84, so my car has a mechanical linkage with a BIG honkin' spring being an 84. I wonder if I can better seal the tail shaft, but the rear seal leak, is due to vibration I am guessing.

Also I fear for the tranny when I add any more power... It seems on the verge of something bad as it is!

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Also I can't drag my car with a visible leak like I have...

Some shots from today... Got rid of the crappy fogs!



...and here is one of me being dumb... Always and forever lol



Tomorrow I am fitting my C5 wheels, and new z28 wheels I picked up off another board member to see how they look! The z28 wheels will be nice for cruising, but disregarding looks of the C5 wheels... The extra width should really help my performance down low, and help me stick better... This car really handles with the suspension goodies I have... It'd be nice to feel "safe"? LOL
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if i can make any suggestions or give any tips at all, please do not get the professional products PowerJection. that system is terribly unreliable. i know two folks with it here locally, and they both have the same hard start condition when hot.

take a good look at the new msd atomic fuel injection. it's self learning, and should handle the engine you have no problem. it's a pretty ingenious piece.
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if i can make any suggestions or give any tips at all, please do not get the professional products PowerJection. that system is terribly unreliable. i know two folks with it here locally, and they both have the same hard start condition when hot.

take a good look at the new msd atomic fuel injection. it's self learning, and should handle the engine you have no problem. it's a pretty ingenious piece.
we need links !!!
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^ those are saweeet, say them bein advertised on sites and summit and such, im like mom can i have one of these for the trucks 383, i really need it. unfortunately she has some vehicle sense and told me i was fine with what i had. it was a good try though
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^^^haha, its been a minute since I asked mom for car parts...
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im payin her back on everything, but shes somewhat a voice of reason otherwise i wouldnt have a bank account
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Thanks for the heads up on the powerjection!

This pic shows how clean and simple she is. Sleeper for sure...

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i still think your rims need to be red accented or something, or the car needs a gold stripe
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I like the clean look for now, but maybe some day... My new wheels are going to change the look of the car a lot.

I spent yesterday cleaning every square inch of the entire car... I have noticed the car really likes the warm weather, and runs MUCH stronger when the outside temp is over 60 degrees. I tried a warmer thermostat, but it didn't do much. Then I remembered that my intake manifold has NO exhaust crossover... I think my fuel is not correctly atomizing as it comes out of the carb.

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do love the look of your engine, the car, its great too, just not with gold wheels
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I love the gold wheels. Perfect on that. Red and gold is a classic combination. See vintage Ferraris for a good example.



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i dont ike the top one, but the bottom one yes, however those whees are very different visually then iroc wheels
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This car may look a little goofy, but it's a racing legend.



And actually, the 82-86 15 inch Z28 wheels were allegedly copied from Ferrari wheels. They're not too far off. And the 85-87 IROCs are pretty much an evolution of those.

Like I said, red car with gold 5 spokes is a pretty classic combination, especially amongst race cars.
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kyle, you going to rock some gold wheels on your car? i see it pulling the look off
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nope, probaby gonna keep the stock 15s forever, nothing wrong with em, and show me a the pics you want, lancia stratos is a nice touch, but i dont like red cars with gold wheels sorry
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kyle, you going to rock some gold wheels on your car? i see it pulling the look off
If you were talking to me... it depends, I'd love to do it, but I've yet to really find any wheels that I think worth buying. Everything that looks good is too narrow. Or too weak. Or has a BMW bolt pattern. Or it needs spacers... etc etc. I've about given up and decided I'm just going to wait til I get done with school and get some Weld RTS or CCW's.

Depending on what wheels I get, I'd love to do them gold/bronze. I'd even love some gold IROC wheels, but that's money spent on wheels that offer no performance advantage over what I've got.

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nope, probaby gonna keep the stock 15s forever, nothing wrong with em, and show me a the pics you want, lancia stratos is a nice touch, but i dont like red cars with gold wheels sorry
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The IROC wheels were a must for comfortable drive ability... I am not claiming my car is super fast, and what not, but even with the IROC wheels she breaks loose in 3rd, which is why I am getting much bigger wheels all around. Should make her handle a lot better, and I will get a better launch at the track. If you can safely run the stock 15s for the life of your car, it may be a nice driver, but it cant possibly have the power some of us are putting down, because I'd probably be dead by now if I was running those. I would like the Red/gold combo more if my wheels were in OK shape with center caps, but they were very abused by past owners, and were a temporary solution to my problem.
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Most drag racers run 15's, though? Larger diameters areb etter for less sidewall flex in cornering and acceleration and braking. But for hard launches in drag racing a smaller diameter is better. Wider is always better in moderation, though.
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i run 15's, no problems here.
shoot, i ran the stock 15's for a long time...went into the 12's on those:

kyle, bronze inserts on the 91-92 wheels you have on the car would look KILLER

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Your opinions are broken.
so another kyle on the board, THERE CAN BE ONLY ONE and for the record im not dissing anyones wheels or cars, i love all camaros, just saying im not a gold wheels guy, well there is one set of gold whees i'd run
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the ones in this picture, spin on centers and all
i do like the look of them on an old le mans car, that'd be a great look for a camaro, long term goal of my car is to look like an old race car and be a nice weekend driver
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Notice I mentioned the stock 15s. By bigger I did not say "radius" I was talking diameter.
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What do you mean? Radius is 1/2(diameter)...
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Haha I meant width. Responding on an iPhone makes me have my sped moments.
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Well, a 275/60/15 fit fine for me. I wouldn't have asked the tires to go around a corner very fast though.
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I have a (admittedly silly) friend who ran 295's on a set of 15 inch rally wheels. Looked awful, not sure how safe it was, but man he loved that look.

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Is that willard's car?
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looks alright to me, whats wrong with it?
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Re: 68Strat's 83 Sport Coupe build up

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Is that willard's car?
From 4 years ago, yeah.

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looks alright to me, whats wrong with it?
I guess Im just not a fan of that type of look.

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