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Old 02-11-2014, 04:22 PM   #551
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The sub-frame connectors are installed. I also sprayed them with rust preventive, primer, and then bedliner, so I hope that will be enough to keep any potential rust at bay.

Tomorrow Will is going to install new rear KYB shocks and the new heater core.

Here are a few pics of the installation and the painting. I was going to coat only the areas that were welded, but since I had plenty of bedliner spray left, I went ahead and covered as much of the red tubes as I was able to, and also touched up a few other areas.

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Nice! That looks a lot better.
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This afternoon I picked up the car (thanks, Dave!) and I can tell the amazing difference that the sub-frame connectors make, in spite of all the road, tranny and rear-end noises when you drive a car without any interior trim. It truly felt like driving a new car.

Even though the ride is stiffer, it is not harsh. Also the squeaks and associated noises seem to be completely gone, which is unreal. If you have a T-top or convertible 3rd gen F-body, you should definitely consider having SFCs installed.

Once the car was back in my garage, I removed the driver's seat and cleaned the floor with a rag soaked in Goof-Off. I then installed 2 sheets of Dynamat to get that project started. My plan is to finish installing sound deadener in the passenger area and then install the new carpet. I'd like to have the seats recovered one of these days, but that project will have to wait for a while.

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Looking very good, Luis!
Happy to see you took care of the new weld spots. Those would have definitely begun to rust at some point.
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Last night I finished installing Dynamat in the passenger area, followed by new carpeting. I have to admit that this is the only time I like having T-tops, as it makes this job a lot easier

Also reinstalled some of the trim panels as well as the center console.

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Man, that's is going to look awesome once you finally get the seats recovered!
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Gonna look like a new car when you are finished!

Did you replace the hatch area carpet also? Where did you order from and what color? Sorry if you posted that already, I must have missed it.
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Did you replace the hatch area carpet also? Where did you order from and what color? Sorry if you posted that already, I must have missed it.
Thanks Kymmee! Yes, I replaced both passenger and hatch area carpets. Actually I bought it from Robert Lee (TTA Forum). He advertised it a while ago and it was almost new. Not sure who made it but it fit very well.

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I am finally done with this project... for now. The next step is to order new leather covers for the front and rear seats, but that won't happen for a couple of months. At that time I may also have the front seat belts restored, unless I can find NOS replacements.

Anyway, here are a few pics.

And yes, I also replaced the radio with a different OE unit that has regular ***** for volume and tuning controls. Just like with the original steering wheel, I hate the original radio, so it's in storage now.

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I found the sheet under the front passenger's seat carpet. I thought it was too brief to be a build sheet but I have no idea as to what it's called. It it marked as "Schedule/Job" at the very top.

As the photo shows, it is in rough condition, but still original to the car, so I put it inside a clear plastic sheet protector and will keep it with all my TTA documentation.

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Nice find ... check over at turbotransam.com as I've posted info about these assembly line worksheets ... there's at least 7 and most likely more for different stops on the assembly line when they were built. Got a whole bunch of them pictured and explained over on the tta forum (the best source on the internet for our cars).
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Took the car out to the Post Time Lounge car show in Longwood this evening. A perfect day for a car show and the place was packed!

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Very cool. We are months away from car show season around here.
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I went to my first cruise in a couple years on Saturday in Winter Garden, FL. I was wondering if you make it down that far. I didn't see any TTAs at the cruise, so I guess not. I also had to work from 3-6am Sunday and get my son to a bowling tournament in South Orlando Sunday afternoon. I was tired and wanted to just relax, so I didn't cruise over to the Longwood show. My son wanted to go for a ride in the car last night. Looks like I should have ventured out. Maybe next time.
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As always thanks for the cars show pics.... And real nice job so far always like checking in on ur threads
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Thanks, Maks10!

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Now that my car has new carpeting, the seats look worse than ever. The leather is cracked, faded in many areas, and just tired-looking after 25 years and 84k miles.

My plan is to order new leather seat covers in a few months, but in the meantime I thought I'd try to "rejuvenate" the upholstery to see what happens. I guess I am a sucker for punishment, but to me, trying to restore car stuff is part of the fun. Besides, at this point, there's little for me to screw up, so why not?

Anyway, I watched a few videos online to see what others are using to clean and restore leather seats, and after about five of them, I felt like I knew enough to—at least—give them a thorough cleaning.

I had a couple of leather cleaning/conditioning products in the garage so that allowed me to tackle this project immediately. I also decided to use a small stiff nylon brush and a scouring sponge. Yeah, maybe overkill, but I did not want to waste 5 hours by attempting to clean filthy leather with a Q-tip.

Anyway, I tackled the front seats since they are rougher than the rear seats.

I was so eager to get started that I failed to take "before" pics, so the "after" photos will have to do.

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Also, like many, I had previously sprayed enough leather conditioner on the seats they looked like they were covered in clear shiny plastic, with plenty of dirt underneath. At least I would come to find out about the underlying coat of dirt once I started scrubbing.

For obvious reasons, the driver's seat is the one that has faded most in the perforated panels, to the point that in a couple of areas it looks like white leather, instead of beige.

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By comparison, the rear seats look new... until you get to the area where sun-bleaching pretty much destroyed the leather. (I will try to address those areas at a later date).

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The driver's seat also has a small tear on the side panel which I may attempt to repair at a later date, just for the heck of it.

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The front passenger seat is also rough, but not as faded, although there are plenty of age-related cracks. I am sure a great contributor to the overall poor condition of the leather is due to a lack of care and proper maintenance.

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Again, I used a nylon brush and a scouring sponge to remove the dirt. As a cleaning and lubricating agent, I used Armor All Leather Care Gel. And while I spent quite a good amount of elbow grease cleaning the front seats, I tried not to do more harm than good by getting too carried away with the scrubbing.

Also, very important—as it was mentioned in several of the videos I watched—is to remove the dirty gel after you are done scrubbing. You DO NOT want that stuff to dry on the leather. I used a white towel to remove the goo and also dry the areas I had just cleaned. By using a white terry-cloth towel, you can see how much dirt comes off.

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My plan is to continue (one of these days) by cleaning the back seats. I will also order a leather/vinyl repair kit to see what kind of results I get, plus, I may also try to stain the perforated leather panels to see how they look.

Clean leather has a natural sheen to it, which looks so much nicer than over-conditioned seats. Once you condition the leather, the important thing is to remove the excess by using a clean microfiber towel, otherwise the product will harden and catch dirt particles and look horrible. Sort of like waxing a car and not polishing it after the wax has dried.
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Great car great project!

Floor mats in #9205 (cognac) from ACC would fit nice
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Yeah, I have agree with Thomas1976. Adding new floor mats to match the new carpet would really add that finishing touch.
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This evening I decided to do something about the striker bolts since they look horrible. I had used the stainless-steel door strikers sold by Hawks Third Gen on my '84 and they looked great, but before ordering another set, I decided to see what I could do to "restore" mine.

Here are a few pics of the before and after, and I have to say that I am quite pleased with the results. I sprayed the washers with SEM black paint, since you can only clean them so much. I think they look alright, or at least a lot better than before.

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This is the same area as above after cleaning. There was a small scratch that I covered with touch-up paint prior to reinstalling the washers.

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Notice the thin plastic washer, which I am sure is there to prevent corrosion.

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I cleaned all the metal pieces with a wire brush and then sanded them down. Primered and painted the washers and then polished the striker bolt with Mother's metal polish.

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And here's the finished product. A lot better than before, and it took me less than an hour.

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Looks good! Did you have to thread that one washer off? The one washer seemed to be trapped on the striker when I took mine off.
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Thanks, Dave! The washers of one of the striker bolts came right off. On the other, the first washer slid right off, and the other one I had to unscrew, but it was no big deal.

Oh, and I should also mention that as I was reinstalling the striker on the driver's side, the flat threaded piece that the striker bolts to fell into the body. So I had to remove the rear seat (for that side), then remove the trim piece so I could fish the piece out, then remove the vent above the striker so I could reinstall the nut plate. Loads of fun, as you can imagine.

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Oh, and I should also mention that as I was reinstalling the striker on the driver's side, the flat threaded piece that the striker bolts to fell into the body. So I had to remove the rear seat (for that side), then remove the trim piece so I could fish the piece out, then remove the vent above the striker so I could reinstall the nut plate. Loads of fun, as you can imagine.

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Bummer! Yeah, that happened to me as well. Luckily I didn't have to remove the rear seat or trim piece. I used a telescoping magnet to fish mine out.
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Where did you get carpet? What color? I had original carpet from a 89 TTA that i had for years, just sold to someone on turbotransam....should have kept it. No new ones is exact color as I see now
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Bummer! Yeah, that happened to me as well. Luckily I didn't have to remove the rear seat or trim piece. I used a telescoping magnet to fish mine out.
I tried fishing it out with a telescoping magnet but was unable to do so. PITA to have to remove the rear seat but that was the only option.

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Bought it from Robert Lee (TTA forum). It's an aftermarket carpet and in new condition. Looks 100 times better than the old carpet.

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I sold him my carpet from a 89 TTA I had for years stored...kinda sorry I let it go.

Did you ever think of spraying seats to get some color back in them? as long as you're replacing them can't hurt
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I sold him my carpet from a 89 TTA I had for years stored...kinda sorry I let it go.

Did you ever think of spraying seats to get some color back in them? as long as you're replacing them can't hurt
I've ordered a couple of dyes to see how it looks. Will also order a tube of SEM leather repair compound to try to repair some of the cracks. As you said, it won't hurt

Finding a matching dye will be the tough part, I think.

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I've ordered a couple of dyes to see how it looks. Will also order a tube of SEM leather repair compound to try to repair some of the cracks. As you said, it won't hurt

Finding a matching dye will be the tough part, I think.

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I'd bet the original leather seat covers could be restored to virtually like new condition. Do a google search, I've seen waaaaay worse than yours come out looking great.

Just me, but I'd rather restore an original item rather than replace it with a reproduction.
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I'd bet the original leather seat covers could be restored to virtually like new condition. Do a google search, I've seen waaaaay worse than yours come out looking great.

Just me, but I'd rather restore an original item rather than replace it with a reproduction.
The leather GM used was crap and usually it is more trouble then it is worth trying to restore it.
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The leather GM used was crap and usually it is more trouble then it is worth trying to restore it.
Now you are raining on my parade.

I do admit to spending many hours trying to restore the leather wrap on my '83's steering wheel. In the end I ended up just buying a re-done one from Chuck Pelton.
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Old 02-26-2014, 04:32 PM   #582
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I've ordered a couple of dyes to see how it looks. Will also order a tube of SEM leather repair compound to try to repair some of the cracks. As you said, it won't hurt

Finding a matching dye will be the tough part, I think.

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Awesome job keeping her up. I am at the cross roads with my own leather seats, Buy new or get these reskinned. Great find btw on your car.
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...Bought it from Robert Lee (TTA forum). It's an aftermarket carpet and in new condition. Looks 100 times better than the old carpet...
That carpet is the #9205 (cognac) color, cutpile carped from ACC, the floor mats are available in that color too.

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Last night I finished installing Dynamat in the passenger area, followed by new carpeting. I have to admit that this is the only time I like having T-tops, as it makes this job a lot easier

Also reinstalled some of the trim panels as well as the center console.

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If i recall correctly, you used b-quiet on your 1984, which do you think is better? dynamat or b-quiet?
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Awesome job keeping her up. I am at the cross roads with my own leather seats, Buy new or get these reskinned. Great find btw on your car.
Thanks, Sholty!

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That carpet is the #9205 (cognac) color, cutpile carped from ACC, the floor mats are available in that color too.

Sorry if you already know it.
I visited the ACC website, but it's not easy to locate stuff by part number. Anyway, if I decide to order a set I will call them to make sure I get the right ones. I do have the TURBO mats which are in beautiful condition, so I can always use those, too.

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If i recall correctly, you used b-quiet on your 1984, which do you think is better? dynamat or b-quiet?
Man, was it necessary to quote the message along with EVERY photo? lol.
Anyway, you are right. I used B-Quiet on my '84 and Dynamat for this one. Can't tell you which one is better, so I guess B-Quiet does a fine job for a lot less.

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shoulda snipped it, srry bro, how much was the dynamat?
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shoulda snipped it, srry bro, how much was the dynamat?
$138.86 (with free shipping). Ordered it from Summit Racing, http://www.summitracing.com/parts/dyc-10455/overview/

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oh, thats not that bad, was 9 sheets enough?
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oh, thats not that bad, was 9 sheets enough?
Yes. At least for the passenger area. If you need or want to do the cargo area, you'll need more.

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oh, alright. very clean car btw, you keep an eye on details, keep up the good work. do you have a clip of the car running? im curious to hear how the engine sounds with the turbo
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I received the shifter **** and e-brake handle redone in leather by fierolover. As usual, Matt did an amazing job!

I wanted to try something a little different this time, so I asked him to recover them in black leather with silver stitching, and I love the way they turned out.


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Beautiful! Integrates perfectly with the rest of the console.
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Beautiful! Integrates perfectly with the rest of the console.
Thanks, Antony! Next project is to get the shifter boot done. Unfortunately, Matt does not offer those, so I will talk to my upholsterer and have him do one that matches the ****. I think that will complement it nicely,

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I received the shifter **** and e-brake handle redone in leather by fierolover. As usual, Matt did an amazing job!

I wanted to try something a little different this time, so I asked him to recover them in black leather with silver stitching, and I love the way they turned out.


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Wow, that looks great! Makes the factory pieces look like they came from a Playskool car.
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Wow, that looks great! Makes the factory pieces look like they came from a Playskool car.
Thanks, Chazman!

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Yesterday, I took the car to a new cruise in Altamonte Springs. The beautiful weather brought out a lot of people and their cars. The place was pretty packed by noon.

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Since the shifter boot was the only console piece that needed to be redone, I drove down to see Howard at Complete auto Upholstery in Altamonte Springs.

Although he was busy, he asked me if I had time to wait for it and he made me a brand new shifter boot while we chatted, although he was plenty busy at the shop with this yellow grocery-getter.

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I did not want to spend a small fortune (and have to wait for a few days) for leather, so I asked him to find a matching vinyl, and that's what he used. The original boot had shrunk to the point where I was unable to manually shift into first gear, so I asked him to make the new one a tad larger.

Here are a few pics of the process and then the new shifter boot installed in the console.

Special thanks to my good bud Dave, who let me borrow one his old shifter boots for this project.

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Looking Good Luis,I can't believe your guy stopped what he was doing and got right to your job!!unbelievable.
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Looking Good Luis,I can't believe your guy stopped what he was doing and got right to your job!!unbelievable.
Yeah, Howard's a great guy. He knows I live about 25 min from his shop, so he was trying to save me another trip, which I really appreciated.

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Looking good. I had a UK company reproduce the shifter boot and it is really nice in very soft leather: http://www.turbotransam.com/forums/s...t=shifter+boot

They do lots of color leathers and stitching and have a ebay store:
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They also do the 91-91 shifter boot and I believe the Camaro ones as well.
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