Does anyone know a place that siamese TPI runners in westeren PA, also is it really worth it? new here north of Pittsburgh.

depends on what runners you have. If you have standard tube runners, they will need cut and rewelded shut to form a siamesed chamber. That is not a bad way to go

If you have slp runners, just get a grinder and cut the down.

Same with the base, take out the center wall and smooth it out about an inch or two in depending on how much rpm you want to gain

It is worth it in my eyes, you gain a flatter torque curve and more higher rpm hp where it counts

do you know of anyone who does this in the pgh area, I think I can handle it but dont want to screw it up.

Welcome Where are you located near Pittsburgh?

You could try calling some shops/machine shops that do head and intake manifold porting. Any head porter can port a base and runner setup.

Its not that hard to screw up. Aluminum base is pretty soft and few hours with a good die grinder and some cartridge rolls will cut it down quickly. Just keep a inch to 2 inch stick for a measuring piece. grind away

I've ported a superram base using a golf ball for size reference. Got about alittle over a 1/3 the way in before i ran out of room with my dremel. I didnt have long shanks like i have now with my big die grinder

If all possible i'd leave the base alone and siamese the runner top, effectively making larger plenum and shorter runners. I never really understood how siamesing just the base and leaving the runners alone helps top end, but that disruption in flow i guess makes it act like a larger plenum as well, doing the same thing

If he had SLP/aftermarket runners couldn't a nice extrude hone provide wonders? Thats just a drop it at the shop and pick it up later kinda thing as far as i know, and i have seen a few dynos prove extrude honed aftermarket runners/base give very very stout gains.

Orr of you want to get rid of that 700', shoot a price my way.

it wont be for awhile unless i find an immediate deal on a T56. The trans swap is the last thing on my mind...so much other more important stuff to be done first, but if i sell it i'll let you know. Is there a time period in which you'd need it? If you need it right away then i dont think i can help you there, as i'm not sure if i'll keep it or go manual swap


As far as extrude hone, that will help increase flow but the base will need it done to inorder to support the flow of the runners. The base is the restriction even on aftermarket units. If you follow any of the TPI threads that the california guys are doing, you'll see what there is to gain flow wise with the TPI base. Get the base to flow and then the runners will properly feed it and make good power.

STill doesnt solve the problem of long runner length. You need to shorten the runner length to make higher rpm power. More rpms you can turn the motor power you can make. Follow the TPI threads in which they siamesed the base and or runners, and you'll see the rpm gains they make which is substantial. Turn a TPI into a single plane manifold basically, supporting over 6000 rpm like miniram/hsr

SLP runners are pretty good out the box, they just need abit more siamesing to really extend the rpm band and increase the flow at high rpm

Problem with extrude hone tho is its VERY expensive. expect to pay somewhere around 300-400 for a base job i believe. that doubles the price of the TPI base

FIRST system


speaking of first system, there is a GP going on. anyone besides me want one!?!

edit: Holy crap!! someone wanna drive to cleveland!? http://cleveland.craigslist.org/pts/942627038.html

North hills, allison park area of of Mcknight rd

I PMed you about a 700R4 I found.

Orr..PM'd

Does anyone know of a part time job in the pittsburgh area for a 16 almost 17 year old? I have tried applying to about 5 different places but no one is hiring right now. I need a job and i really dont care what im doing as long as i have money to put into the camaro over the winter.

Just sold my stock hood & the new alternator I had on the 2.8l V6. Guys from Ohio drove 3 hours to come get it, I guess his son wrecked his 91 V6 Firebird. Its funny cuz the color of the hood was damn close to the kids car. I got $80 for the hood, and I threw the alternator for an extra $10 because I have no need for it.


Im pretty happy..

Nitrous kit is out the car and being sold monday. I"m happy with that. Funding the build as well

I haven't heard of any jobs recently. I'm not really in the market so i guess i dont pay attention. Doesn't seem like too many places are hiring right now.

Sounds like you guys are getting something done on your cars this winter. Mine is in the same spot that i parked it in the weekend after we were at the track. Haven't even washed it.

took me like 20 min to take out the nitrous kit and that was taking my time. Took me a week to install it

After looking at my engine bay i had the idea of twins cross my mind....

Go for it. Plenty of room.

just need to make some manifolds tho, not a big deal i guess. Just two is more than 1 in the price department, so i'm thinking i should stick with 1

Why buy one when you can have two for twice the price. I think thats from a movie or something.

This build is all over the map, constantly ideas flood my head and the more i sit hear and think the crazier i get and less practical /more expensive this becomes Its a serious addiction i need help

sounds like my build. This was originally just a 300 RWHP rebuild mind you.. now its.... well yea...


like your twins idea, i recently have had that "Super Charged" idea sweeping in and out of my head


Oh, and someone just became the newest client of Bob George Racing...

that someone got a free T-shirt and everything!!

Thats the best part. You can have a practical/streetable 1000hp car. It just takes alot of money. At least your getting something for your money. As long as you build it right, it should last awhile. It is an addiction though. Maybe i should start HPanonymous or something like that. Take donations and use them to build a bigger engine for the bird.lol

yeah i hope its streetable and drives well it should, well i may not be able to drive it well being new to a manual but atleast it will not be the car thats at fault.

LMS, when you need my pistons? i hope to start tearing down the motor soon and get it ready to yank, soon as i find a good day to do it all. Wont take long to get it ready to pull

IMing u about the pistons now. I don't want to make 10000000 posts

edit: of course that would require you responding!! lol. But hit me up next time you see me so we can talk.

anyone have 4 iroc center caps for sale?

Buy em off ebay. I got mine there after searching for 2 years for them. One of the best decisions ive made on my car. There is a guy that every once and awhile that sells like 7 sets of GM NOS caps. Its some wheel shop in God knows where, but they are genuine GM NOS in the baggie caps for like $50 and change. Mine were absolutely mint like they just came off the line.

i cant believe what they are getting for these things new. 50 a piece in some places. what a joke.

Thats why i was so surprised to get all 4 NOS for $50 in packages!

i fear as these cars get older, parts are gonna be even harder to find and those little hard to find pieces like wheel caps will be bringing in a PREMIUM. lol

AKA, time to stock up on NOS centercaps

Any of you guys have a trailer?? Either that or know a cheap cheap way to move a car?? I wanna buy this rearend off a dude but he won let it go unless I take the whole da** shell.

Tho it is still on 4 wheels atleast. I just want the rear-end. Im planning on junking the shell (a 87 Firebird Formula)

I have a trailer. Where is the car at?

It's in greensburg. My dad kinda wants to rent a trailer if we decide to go after it but man its just so annoying. I wish i could just chop the rear out and push teh car over a hill

That is a bit of a haul for me, but let me know if you need it towed.

It is a haul for me too lol. I think orr is closest but he has no trailer or any other means.

anyone know of a junkyard out there?

i have a jeep but no trailer. JJ's is your best bet! he'll pick it up for a price

hell he may take it to his place, take the rear out, and throw the shell up in his yard or something

OK i'll email him. jjsautomotiveracing.com right??? I feel kinda weird asking him cause i've never dealt with the guy but why not try.

Whats the next closest yard that might take a shell?

I have my truck, and I can most likely snag a tow dolly for a day. As for scrapping a shell, in all honesty, a junkyard will take it but they wont pay you for it. Some places arent even excepting cars. Scrap metal is at an all time low, and metal is worth nothing right now. I have a place you can take a shell a little off of 51 by me. He'll take it but Im not sure if he'll pay you for it.

Most likely thats why the guy wants you to take the shell with you, its worth nothing to him..

Let me know, even if you dont need my truck if you have room Id like to go for a little ride with you to pick it up.

I wouldn't entirely mind that. Honestly if i they just took the shell no questions asked and lemme rip anything off it i wanted before i left, I'd be happy with not getting any $ for it. It'd help cut down on costs.

The real problem is our 6-8MPG F150

whats all in the shell? any interior parts? body parts? anything else that can be parted out

Does this guy have a title for the car that he can give you? You wouldnt even have to switch it to your name, just be alot easier to hand the car over to the guy I know thats all. My 85' 305 SBC K10 gets better MPG than that, but it has an overdrive tranny. Who knows what Id get towing something. I got alright gas mileage when I use to haul half a ton of metal to the scrap yard. What all is left on the car, just the shell and axles basically?

NOOOOO clue whats left on the car. heres the ad:

"parts are from a 1987 firebird formula
rear hatch w/spoiler- $100
driver side door - good shape - $100
passener side door - great shape- $125
complet interior - red- all panels,trim,headliner,carpet,seats - all in good shape -
$450
dash pad - excellent shape - $100
instrument panel and dash w/gauges - $100
car is stripped - still has a 3.45 rear axle w/disc brakes - $100"

all i know besides that is that it has 4 wheels on it that it sounds like come with the shell.

and our F150 doesnt have overdrive. And it has 4.11 gears. But its funny. It does 6-8 MPG empty and 6-8 MPG towing like 5000 lbs. go figure...


No clue if he has a title. I just wanna take a torch to anthing holding the axle in and unload the shell as cheap as possible. to anyone.

You little **** I saw that add on Craigslist too lol, I thought about trying to get just the Disc Brake assembly but I decided against it and never called him.

I can stop by Jarvis' on Monday if youd like and talk to him about taking the shell..

lol I need the whole rear because mines making nasty noises. and mines only a 3.08 drums rear.


don't make any special trips but if you run into someone who might take it I wouldn't mind you puttin a quick question in lol

I'll be out of town tomorrow tho, and monday I am at beaverrun all day. Or I would try to do this monday.

ha, you guys are stocking up on parts, I'm trying to get rid of stuff I have laying around. Like t-tops. I have 2 sets of t-tops and I dont even own a t-top car anymore!

Nows the time to be a buyer not a seller man!!! Theres good parts out there for incredible prices because EVERYONE is trying to get rid of stuff thats been lying around.


I forgot, I got brand new in the box roller rockers donated to my project. The guy sold the car and never put em on and hes a good good buddy of my dads so hes like here, take these

make sure its a true 3.45, those are uber rare

Eww noises is never good. I have his number so Ill call him Monday for you its no problem.

Ha Im unloading parts too. Just sold my V6 Tranny today, need to fund the build somehow lol. Either sets of T-Tops Lexan by chance?

I already know where 2 true 3.45 B/W disc rears are in pittsburgh. Thery are sitting in garages and the owners are thinking of selling them but they havn't decided. Neither owner knows that its a rare rear-end.


this would make 3. I have a knack for finding these puppies


edit: and thanks for the call!!!


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