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i need a 9 inch rear for a 4th gen or considering 12 bolt but i dont know if that will hold my power with the 6spd
are you building that tranny up first?? I really think its only rated to 450 ft lbs give or take depending on the year/model...
But i agree your rears the worst part now. Remember that TA that blew the rear right as you were about to stage?? It kinda made me laugh cause I knew u had the same rear
If I had a place to store it Id torch it piece by piece until it all fit in my bed lol, I just dont know of anywhere I could drop it off. A cliff might work tho..
If I had a place to store it Id torch it piece by piece until it all fit in my bed lol, I just dont know of anywhere I could drop it off. A cliff might work tho..
Big cliff
arg. I don't know. If i can figure a way to swing it I'll let yall know. I wasn't really planning on buying a rear end this winter but hmmmm.
But i gotta be in Erie by 9AM tomorrow, So im off to bed. It's funny no one posts in this thread for like 3 weeks then theres like 12 posts tho..
i'm gonna buy a 9" possibly even tho i dont want FORD parts on my car. Just doesnt seem right but everyone with a T56 recommends it and with my power i think the 12 bolt has a chance to break if the trans dont break first
I'm not rebuilding it. I'm gonna run it til it blows. They are rated at 450lbft but it will hold more than that as long as i dont abuse it too much. And i wont
I already know where 2 true 3.45 B/W disc rears are in pittsburgh. Thery are sitting in garages and the owners are thinking of selling them but they havn't decided. Neither owner knows that its a rare rear-end.
this would make 3. I have a knack for finding these puppies
edit: and thanks for the call!!!
These posts were all made simultaneously.. read up to make sure u didnt miss anything!
Keep me posted on those units, thats whats in my bird.
I might be interested in some parts if you do pick it up.
i'm gonna buy a 9" possibly even tho i dont want FORD parts on my car. Just doesnt seem right but everyone with a T56 recommends it and with my power i think the 12 bolt has a chance to break if the trans dont break first
I'm not rebuilding it. I'm gonna run it til it blows. They are rated at 450lbft but it will hold more than that as long as i dont abuse it too much. And i wont
I am 99.9% sure there is an aftermarket chevy version of the 9 bolt available from summit. Same old 9 bolt in a convenient non ford package!
And thats fine and dandy, just don't blow it up too soon! I'd hate to see anyone waste a good T56
If i was keeping the auto, i'd totally run this car with its rear end as it sits. I dont know anyone in the 9's with stock rear But i know any effort thru that manual with the clutch i'm gonna use, it will shred the ring gear or crack the carrier for sure.
If anyone needs a ford 9 inch i have like 3, 4 or 5 of them sitting down at my dads garage. One of them is even narrowed. I have no idea what gears they have or the condition of them, if anyone is interested i can get the specs for you.
Justin, I was doing some research on rear-ends and heres basically what i found:
theres a 8.5" 10 bolt that is nearly as strong as 12 bolts
12 bolts can be very strong, and have less drivetrain loss than 9"s, and should work no problem for what your doing. They arn't the strongest option however, and they all seem to have pretty bad gear whine.
9" is the strongest, though there is alittle more drivetrain loss. Its about the same price and maybe even cheaper?? I havn't found anything on the gear whine but i would suspect its more to do with the gears, and would be in the 9"'s too.
S60's are actually stronger than 9"'s, but are heavier, and well.. yea. Not needed.
If anyone needs a ford 9 inch i have like 3, 4 or 5 of them sitting down at my dads garage. One of them is even narrowed. I have no idea what gears they have or the condition of them, if anyone is interested i can get the specs for you.
Anyone interested in these?, I'll give you a good deal.
they dont have the torque arm mount setup like stock rears for fbodys have. If i go 9" i'll need the 4thgen wide spec version anyway with torque arm mount on the housing
they dont have the torque arm mount setup like stock rears for fbodys have. If i go 9" i'll need the 4thgen wide spec version anyway with torque arm mount on the housing
So what your saying is the rears that i have wont work with these cars even if they were modded?
they will need to either have a tq arm mount welded on and spring perches/LCA mounts as well, plus get either explorer disk brakes and adapt them to your stock stuff, or get custom brackets made up for our stock brakes
OR you will have to run a different type of suspension like a 4 link or something and still custom weld mounts for all that. I dont think its worth the effort
mines bone stock and held over 500whp in a auto. In a manual tho i'm not sure how long it last. for you being in the 350-400whp range eventually it may last enough as long as you dont try to kill it off the line. 87TA was doing 1.5-1.6's on his stocker and 450ish whp 406 and its holding great but he aint fully launching it
mines bone stock and held over 500whp in a auto. In a manual tho i'm not sure how long it last. for you being in the 350-400whp range eventually it may last enough as long as you dont try to kill it off the line. 87TA was doing 1.5-1.6's on his stocker and 450ish whp 406 and its holding great but he aint fully launching it
yea I know, but I hate worrying. The 90-92 rear-ends are different than the 85-90 rears and should have the same max strength as any 4th gen rear but dont add the extra 2 inches. I was thinking of taking a 90-92 rear and just changing all the guts. stronger posi, 3.73 gears, axles, c-clip elims, and anything else i can figure out that would make it stronger... I was betting that it would hold the 400 ish RWHP and 500 ish RWTQ. I wouldnt spray till the 60 foot anyways so that shouldnt be as much of an issue (wanna get into second at LEAST before the juice kicks in).
/shrugs..
3.73s should be good behind a T56 though. I think I would stay 3.42s if i went with TKO600 though. That extra gear means alot to me on the highway.
Alright guys well Im saving up for Heads again, after I payed a little fine I had and bought the TH400 Tranny. But I might be spending a good bit again and setting back heads again lol. Reason is I found 3 Thirdgen Trans Ams about an hour and a half away from me that a guy is trying to get rid of. Says he doesnt have titles to any of the cars, but I figure Ill scoop them up for around $600 for all three and part them out to make my money back plus a good bit to go towards the build (Especially heads lol). I may keep the best looking one even tho it doesnt have a title, and keep it for a sole drag car but who knows we'll have to see.
Im still trying to negotiate with the guy. He wanted $750 for them, and I have him down to $650 right now. If he'll do $600 Ill take em.
Ill let you guys know if this is gonna happen, or if it just falls through.
Quick question, i have a Ford 10.25inch with 4.10 gears and a locker/posi unit in it, and i have someone that wants to buy it but im not sure what a fair price is. I know this isnt a third gen related question but could anyone help me. I was thinking of selling it for around $800-$1000.
i know its pretty early still, but im trying to setup a meet. When it warms up, im trying to have everybody come to the sonic at the pittsbugh mills. Now i'm hoping it will be mostly f-bodies, but everyone is invited. We're Trying to make this the biggest "unofficial" meet of the year. When it starts to warm up ill post the date. Just let me know whos interested. Thanks
i know its pretty early still, but im trying to setup a meet. When it warms up, im trying to have everybody come to the sonic at the pittsbugh mills. Now i'm hoping it will be mostly f-bodies, but everyone is invited. We're Trying to make this the biggest "unofficial" meet of the year. When it starts to warm up ill post the date. Just let me know whos interested. Thanks
I'm in! But I'll need till probably mid June to get the car up to 100%.
However, I think we should meet somewhere with some fun roads nearby, so that we can all go cruise. Or maybe somewhere that we can terrorize some imports or mustangs .
Im just saying that if we have the choice, I think that I'd rather be wasting oil reserves than putzing around a parking lot for 3 hours. Maybe we could chill out and catch up on the winter progress, then go drive for an hour.
besides, Like 4 of us needa get some fresh-engine-break-in-miles
i know its pretty early still, but im trying to setup a meet. When it warms up, im trying to have everybody come to the sonic at the pittsbugh mills. Now i'm hoping it will be mostly f-bodies, but everyone is invited. We're Trying to make this the biggest "unofficial" meet of the year. When it starts to warm up ill post the date. Just let me know whos interested. Thanks
Im up for it, but my car wont be done until hopefully May sometime..
I'm in! But I'll need till probably mid June to get the car up to 100%.
However, I think we should meet somewhere with some fun roads nearby, so that we can all go cruise. Or maybe somewhere that we can terrorize some imports or mustangs .
Im just saying that if we have the choice, I think that I'd rather be wasting oil reserves than putzing around a parking lot for 3 hours. Maybe we could chill out and catch up on the winter progress, then go drive for an hour.
besides, Like 4 of us needa get some fresh-engine-break-in-miles
my idea was we'd all meet there, hang out for an hour or so, then we can do it woodward style and all leave at once and just cruise 28 and get off at some point and terrorize some towns. Ya I'm not one for sitting around doing nothing for hours upon hours. lol
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and btw the ricers and mustangs will be with us so its easy pickins'. lol
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if my 400 is done and in the car i'm gonna break in the motor n/a and work on getting the tune on that done with the new ecm. will take about a week of good hard driving to break in the motor I hope to have it out but it will only be a 350ish whp car haha not for long tho
not sure of a timeline for this build, but it doesnt get decent out til april anyway so i probly wont have the car out until atleast then
I would like to but my other project has taken the lead. Might get to tune it in the spring or something.
other project????
hey justin.. just talkin with my dad we MAY honestly be interested in the entire shortblock, or even the shortblock + heads depending on how the price goes. yanno, if ya get no hits or interest or anything etc.
took the cam out. I am thinking of keeping my heads but things could change. Let me know what yall are thinking, i may give it all up for a good price, but mainly want to get rid of shortblock at this time. I like my heads
took the cam out. I am thinking of keeping my heads but things could change. Let me know what yall are thinking, i may give it all up for a good price, but mainly want to get rid of shortblock at this time. I like my heads
well leme know when it gets to the "sell-it-now point". I dont think I can build my own for less than $2000 so my dad agreed to watch how your shortblock does. If it wasnt for those weaker 8740 rod bolts I'd be making an offer right now. Did you ever get a quote to see how much it would be to swap for 2000s?
and i dont have the money for shortblock+heads anyways so thats just a daydream lol. I'd havta try and sell all 3 of my engines to find that one. Though it may be worth it.
90 bucks for bolts, 25 to check rod housing bores to make sure they didnt change from the bolt upgrade. It wont need rebalanced either. ARP 2000's will be good to damn near 800-1000hp i think. L19's are even more so, but i feel the standards are good for 600-700 range at crank.
You can send rods to golen and they will do it.
I wouldnt worry about the ARP 8740's. I went 10's on that setup banging off the limiter at 6800 rpms alot IF they couldnt hold they would have broke by now. I feel they are good enough for your build.
I'm trying to get 2500, whats the next best offer you can give me? Its not a sell it now point yet, but the faster i sell it, the faster i can get the new motor in Faster the better for me Hit me up
