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I just checked the timing. Can someone edit my picture with another arrow showing where I should be at? I am not sure if the #'s are correct. Shouldn't it be at 6? The Arrow shows where it is pointing. Is this really 12*?
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88 Firebird Formula 350 89k miles 13.1 @ 105... 1.8 60ft W/ low compression in 2 cylinders and smaller cam... Superram- Trickflow AL Heads- 268XFI *3290 LBS*
To Do List: Tranny (#3), Rearend (#3), Paint... Then DONE!!!
What are the specs on that cam? What kind of tuning have you done on such a non-stock motor?
Edit: I just looked up the cam specs. It's pretty mild so I'm not sure if your engine combo is radical enough to fail smog by itself. Have you looked at your spark plugs? When was the last time you changed your cap/rotor/plugs/wires? What about your catalytic converter? Still the factory one?
Cat has about 6-10k miles on it. Cap and Plug wires are good. Cam is mild and smog legal, passed with it two years ago. Did the timing look correct? I do have a chip and a FPR.
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88 Firebird Formula 350 89k miles 13.1 @ 105... 1.8 60ft W/ low compression in 2 cylinders and smaller cam... Superram- Trickflow AL Heads- 268XFI *3290 LBS*
To Do List: Tranny (#3), Rearend (#3), Paint... Then DONE!!!
my .. i mean my girlfriends car just failed smog too, im in the process of swapping EGR valves. I did everything else, ditched the stock coil to with an msd blaster. hope thats all i need to do, the cats are fairly new, less then a year old.
__________________ YOUR 90-92 CAMARO TACHOMETER BROKE? I CAN FIX IT. PM ME FOR DETAILS. SuperStreet in the making...It's a work in progress.
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__________________ YOUR 90-92 CAMARO TACHOMETER BROKE? I CAN FIX IT. PM ME FOR DETAILS. SuperStreet in the making...It's a work in progress.
SBC, Forged internals, 215cc aluminum heads, 90mm TB, .589/.612 lift cam, Long tube headers, 3.5" exhaust. 9" Procharger. Powered by Holley HP EFI
Is that part of why they sold it for a good deal Trav? Assuming responsibility for the smog can be costly for the buyer playing guess/check with parts.
How do you know it's running pig rich Bullydawg?
Did your dad have it tuned, or is it an off-shelf-chip?
Minor tweaking in the tune should get you by if all your basic parts are up to par.
Chrome timing tabs are notoriouisly inaccurate as well
I agree. Get a piston stop that goes into the spark plug hole, and figure out where true TDC is on #1. Then mark that with a bright paint pen on the timing mark and the balancer. Then use an adjustable timing light to set your timing.
High #'s on any area are never good. Good luck w/ guessing w/ randon parts replacement.
Its usually not whats wrong, its whats wrong & what caused that part to fail.
If a cat fails, its usually a overly rich condition that causes the failure. so just replacing the cat only "patches" the problem, it doesnt really "fix" the problem.
If it was easy to diagnose it, we wouldn't charge $200 to diagnose it.
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high HC's. unburnt fuel. are your CO levels high also? are you NOx levels high or low? they all play a factor and help get a general clue to what is the actual problem. For instance, low HC's, low CO's, and high NOx. means a lean condition not enough fuel combustion chambers getting too hot. best bet is to go to a smog test and repair station. because like others said its not worth just throwing parts on.
high HC's. unburnt fuel. are your CO levels high also? are you NOx levels high or low? they all play a factor and help get a general clue to what is the actual problem. For instance, low HC's, low CO's, and high NOx. means a lean condition not enough fuel combustion chambers getting too hot. best bet is to go to a smog test and repair station. because like others said its not worth just throwing parts on.
Can you elaborate on the highlighted one.
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I agree. Get a piston stop that goes into the spark plug hole, and figure out where true TDC is on #1. Then mark that with a bright paint pen on the timing mark and the balancer. Then use an adjustable timing light to set your timing.
Jeremy,
You better explain on how to do this. I don't think you want someone to place a piston stop then turn the crankshaft just like that.
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2 times ago I barley passed smog, like by 1-2 ppm, unburnt hydrocarbons, I thought that was strange but I passed so I did not worry, Got in the car to leave and it had no power, popped the hood in the parking lot, the tech had one of the cheap old school timing lights that you need you pull the spark plug wire, after he checked timing he never plugged it back in. also I have learned since then that they need to check timing AFTER they do a pull, otherwise it smog's in limp-mode, when they pull the brown plug it confuses the ecm for 30 min or so. By the way, this was NOT marcs shop.
If a basic tune up does not fix it, plugs wires, exec. Get it diagnosed, I always change out all the consumables before smog anyway, My neighbor and I spent $600 fixing and replacing stuff 2 years ago on his truck, finally gave up and took his truck in, it was a missing vacuum line we never saw. $3 part, oh well.
But not enough fuel will cause a misfire=no combustion=no NOx
so then any car running lean is misfiring? no. I have had cars running good, but are also running lean. But hey im just a shop owner so what do i know.
aaron i reccomend you either get a custom chip burnt, or a really big cat if all your secondary igntion is good and compression is good, just make sure theres no major faults like defective mass air flow, defective fuel injectors ect. but the easiest and cheapest in the long run to pass would just be get the biggest magnaflow cat on there possible. your car is peformance its going to run little rich always. but marc is right about one thing it will be a bandaid so expect a cat every time you need to pass
try if you have dual exhaust for your headers 2 or 1 of these 95015 or 95016 pr 95019 depending on what size your piping is
and this is a car club not an advertisement for a shop send a pm if you want him to pay for a diagnostic.
Hey at least i am practicing. LOL.. had your helmet on this week? I am down to 500psi in my tank, I got a ton of scraps from my friend that owns a sheetmetal shop, stop by and grab some, And i am geting prety good
well, I know my timing needs to come down 6*. How much of a difference would that make? The cat only has 10k Miles on it. Enough for it to be bad already?
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88 Firebird Formula 350 89k miles 13.1 @ 105... 1.8 60ft W/ low compression in 2 cylinders and smaller cam... Superram- Trickflow AL Heads- 268XFI *3290 LBS*
To Do List: Tranny (#3), Rearend (#3), Paint... Then DONE!!!
If your timing is off more than 2' it is a auto fail. Something is wrong with you car, i run mine at 10-11, runs great that way, just reajust before smog.
If you still want marcs stealth ram, i will swap your super ram for it.
If you still want marcs stealth ram, i will swap your super ram for it.
haha, no thanks. If only the values weren't so different. I may sell my superram and pick up a stealth ram, but I doubt it. I have the "ability" to pass smog with all my mods.
Hey at least i am practicing. LOL.. had your helmet on this week? I am down to 500psi in my tank, I got a ton of scraps from my friend that owns a sheetmetal shop, stop by and grab some, And i am geting prety good
Mine is sitting on same spot. Covered.. Haven't really have a good chance to practice. 500 psi???? Better check the leak I forgot to tell you about... j/k. Ooops sorry for the HIJACK.
If your timing is off more than 2' it is a auto fail. Something is wrong with you car, i run mine at 10-11, runs great that way, just reajust before smog.
If you still want marcs stealth ram, i will swap your super ram for it.
Hes got enough problems, he doesnt need a Stealth Ram to add to his probs
If you show up w/ a Steath Ram, you wont have to worry about timing.
BTW its not 2 degrees, & fail its 3, & you fail.
__________________ Rocklin Automotive, Goodyear 6800 Five Star Blvd Rocklin, Ca 95677 916-315-0335 www.rocklinautomotive.com
Sorry thought it was 2, I am a gross polluter because the previous owner of my car (my dad) failed twice with the timing being off. Smog II for me only. Yay me, and if he has the "hookup" I figer it doesn't mater what intake he has. With the reputation of the super ram, it is probably a massive vac leak. I am really tempted to buy your stealth ram and just swap intakes before I smog.