Late 3rd gen Camaro IROC wanted in Chicago region. - Third Generation F-Body Message Boards

kins · 03-27-2007, 07:24 AM

Hi everyone.

I'm new to this site and this is my first post.

I live in England at the minute but I'm moving to Chicago in May. I've just sold my car see here: http://www.vwgolfmk1.org.uk/modules....car+automobile

So now i'm looking for a new one.

I don't know very much about American cars and I was kinda hoping you guys could help.

I was in the states at christmas and a Camaro caught my eye.
A little research later and i now know it was a Generation 3.

Ok thats all i know. I loved the 80's styling, low slung body with sleek lines. Oh yeah one more thing.... it sounded awesome. RWD and a stonking engine.... sounds good to me!

Now here is the bit where i need help. I've been browsing ebay and autotrader but I'm buying blind. Which is the fastest model that handles the best? My friend told me IROC is he right?

So far I've only seen cars with T tops. Do they do a full metal roof version?

Here is the wish list:
Highly tuned original engine or new moden transplant (more powerful, reliable unit)
Must be a manual gearbox,
air con,
Tidy statndard interior (perhaps race seats and wheel)
Uprated suspension (what setup is the 3 gen? running?)
Period alloy wheels, no bling chrome crap.

No bodykits, bonnet(hood) shakers or plastic window/ headlamp blind thingies.

Thats about it.

Can anyone help? Does anyone have a car for sale within travelling distance from Chicago. I have a budget of between $5000 & $6000 max. Will this buy me that sort of car or do I need a bigger budget?

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91CamaroRS305 · 03-27-2007, 01:17 PM

Welcome to the board, and an early welcome to Chicago.

Now as for a car, the later models, 90-92 were a tad bit faster, but were also a bit more heavier due to there being more structure added to the car for accidents and such.

The IROCs were very nice cars, I owned an 88 at one point. Yes they do have hard tops (full metal roofs) but they are not always the easiest to find because the Ttop IROCs were a but more popular.

Another problem, the 350 V8 (5.7 litres) did not come with a manual gear box, only the 305 V8 (5.0 litres) came with manuals. Now you can switch either the engines, the 350 being the better choice be cause of more power, or switch the transmissions, but then you are looking at doing some simple mods to the car for a manual trans to fit.

With the transmissions themselves, you want the World Class(WC) T5, the non-World Class T5's cases are not as strong, and if you put some serious power through the trans you make crack the case. Best bet is to find a stock, clean IROC with a 305 and a manual and switch over to a 350 or larger small block Chevy engine.

There is TONS of info on this site for engine swaps, and the group of us who live in and around Chicago are always willing to lend a hand for a beer or 4 LOL.

The stock suspension on the IROCs were really nice, there are some mods you can do to keep the body stiffer which will help in handling a hard turn, unless you are looking to drag race the car then thats a whole other story.

Where are you moving to in Chicago? I currently live on the southwest side of the city but grew up on the northwest side.

Again welcome and if you have anymore questions ask away there are plenty of people who would be willing to answer!!

86NiteRider · 03-27-2007, 03:13 PM

Welcome to our world class city-Chicago. On May 26 we are having our annual Thirdgenfest gathering in Crete, IL which is a suburb south of Chicago. It would be worth your time to come and meet everyone plus there will be a nice variety of Thirdgens for you to look at and choose which style you like. there will even be a few for sale and a lot of people that might know where you can find the car you are looking for. More details can be found on the Thirdgen Fest forum on this site.

82whiteZ28 · 03-27-2007, 03:47 PM

uhmm if he wants an iroc he will be looking for 1985 through 1990 not 90-92 just a little fyi. now if he wants a 90-92 iroc he might want to look into getting a dodge daytona

haha

91CamaroRS305 · 03-27-2007, 04:56 PM

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Originally Posted by 82whiteZ28

uhmm if he wants an iroc he will be looking for 1985 through 1990 not 90-92 just a little fyi. now if he wants a 90-92 iroc he might want to look into getting a dodge daytona

haha

I know that, I was jsut bringing up the last few years because the engines produced a few more ponies, not that they were IROCs....but then again my 88 RS will end up looking like a 91 Z28 so whose to say there are no 92 IROCs

88blkiroc · 03-27-2007, 06:06 PM

Just to clarify what these guys are talking about, the IROC-Z was produced up until 1990. From 1991 to 1992 the top model Camaro was just called the Z28 as Chevolet lost the rights to the IROC name (dodge took over in 91 with the Daytona, a big piece of junk and not worthy of the IROC name IMO). The 91-92 Z28 have just as much power if not more then the IROC's with the 350ci engine (also called the L98) and the style of the 91-92 Z28's is a bit different then any other 3rd gen Camaro. If I was in your shoes, I would try to find a clean 1988-1992 IROC or Z28 with the TPI 305 engine and then swap in a TPI 350 later on. They made some improvements in the cars in 1988 which is why I would recommend going with that year or newer. You my also find a car that has already had the swap done but since you do not know a lot about these cars I would be wary as you might be getting someone elses half-done job or problems. I really would recommend coming to thirdgen fest, you will meet a lot of good people and see a lot of cars from stock to wild and you can decide what you really want. And BTW, $5,000-$6,000 should be plenty to get a really nice condition Camaro.

nape · 03-27-2007, 06:38 PM

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Originally Posted by 91CamaroRS305

With the transmissions themselves, you want the World Class(WC) T5, the non-World Class T5's cases are not as strong, and if you put some serious power through the trans you make crack the case. Best bet is to find a stock, clean IROC with a 305 and a manual and switch over to a 350 or larger small block Chevy engine.

The cases are quite similar. You're going to take the teeth off the gears before you break the case most of the time. The biggest difference between WC and non-WC transmissions was the switch to roller bearings from bronze bushings.

Not sure if drag racing is big in England, but any T5 (even V6 versions) ought to be good if you're not launching the car a lot. I ran a V6 T5 last year (road course) behind a 350 TPI with headers and it held up fine. The biggest killer of these transmissions is shock load, like when launching the car or if you get rear wheel hop on a road course. It'll knock the teeth right off.

Just some info.

nape · 03-27-2007, 06:44 PM

Hah, did anyone look at his pics?

I just noticed there's a 4th gen Camaro in the background of this one:

kins · 03-28-2007, 07:36 AM

Wow thanks for all the info guys, it looks like I’ve found the place to be for all my 3 Gen knowledge. The Chicago region seams to have some sound camaro owners and I’d definitely like to check out the 3rd Gen Fest. Thanks for the invite!

I’m disappointed to hear that the 350ci engine didn’t come with a manual tranny. It looks like the best bet is to go with the 305 like you guys recommend. I can always build a different engine and drop that in if I’m craving more muscle. To be honest it might take some adjustment to get used to 5.0 litres and RWD. My Golf (rabbit) had a 4 cylinder 8v engine and front wheel drive lol.

I’ve a couple of questions at this point:

I assume TPI is injection? Which standard camero models are V8 carb/s? Are these the later RS models?

What other conversions are popular when converting a 305? Are there any common modern engine transplants that would be a suitable swap from a 305 with a manual?

I definitely want a hard top. All the 3rd gen camaro adds I've seen state that the t-tops leak. I assume that this is a common problem. It would be cool in summer to have the open the sky but I don’t really want a leaky car. Do the T-top cars have additional reinforcement to stiffen up the shell? I think I’d choose the model with the stiffest / lightest shell.

One more question for the minute. Is it hard to get these cars through the emissions? When the camaro turns 25 will it still have to go through emissions? My thoughts are it could be an advantage to buy an older car as it would be easier to modify without worrying if it will get through emissions. Would it be possible to take off the catalytic converter/s on an emissions exempt vehicle? I was just curious.

If not I’d definitely want a later car.

The wish list stands to date.

1988-1992 – Black –hardtop - IROC or Z28 with manual gearbox (WC T5 or better), 305 engine or upgraded to 350 (preferably modified) or moden unit.

Is this achievable? If anyone knows of a car you think I’d be interested in please let me know.

Thanks so much for all the help and the warm welcome to the site.

Karl

P.S Fantastic spot on the 4 gen camaro in my neighbours drive eagle eyes! I think that is the only camaro I’ve seen over here. It has blue racing stripes. Could it be the anniversary model Z28 perhaps? I don’t really know much about them and I’m guessing. LOL

91CamaroRS305 · 03-28-2007, 01:15 PM

Honestly, with some looking around you will defiantely find a car with the design you want, might take some time but there are cars out there.

As for emissions, the laws in Illinois just changed, as of the past February they no longer require emissions on and pre OBD II vehicles, basically anything that is a 1995 model year or older, so you won't have to worry about emissions and can do what you want with the exhaust.....just as long as it isnt too loud because some suburbs will give tickets for loud exhaust.

86NiteRider · 03-28-2007, 02:07 PM

Carbs ended in '87 Later RS base models had TBI engines but some also came with TPI or later were converted by their owners. The TBI is a solid reliable engine and the TPI is a bit more powerful. Just depends and what your goal is.

TPI = Tuned Port Injection
TBI = Throttle Body Injection

You can slap a carb on a TBI with no problem

All T Tops don't leak. Just ones that have not been maintained. I have an '86 that never leaks. You have to make sure you have good weather stripping. That is something that once you fix it the tops won't leak. There is plenty of instructions on this board for a do it yourselfer to follow. I also have a hardtop '92. The hard top will be better for speed and less flexing of the body. The T Top is a lot of fun, especially on sunny days and gathers a lot of looks. I don't believe there is additional reinforcements for a T Top car. I guess installing a roll cage is always an option. There are plenty of days I prefer my T Tops to the Hardtop.

As of this year in Illinois cars that are older than 1995 are exempt from admissions if they passed their last inspection. So when buying ask to see the last inspection so you will know where you stand. At worst you may have to take it only once.

You can remove the CAT off the car after passing inspection but to me the car runs better with a good CAT than without one. Unless you plan to remove all emmisions related parts.

The more desirable Camaros are the Heritage 91-92 RS/Z28's or the 88-90 IROC's. The interior dash on the 91-92's are different from the other years. The outside striping is different on the Heritages as well.

The manual tranny won't be that hard to find or to have installed. The beauty of our cars is that almost any mechanic can work on them, they can be converted to your desired dream car and it will beat your neighbor's 4th gen in most cases unless he is rocking the Corvette engine...but we can put those in as well.

Your choice of color is black and that is a great color. Looks good on our cars.

If you contact the moderator on this board LFN AT U (His name is Denny Bruns) who also host ThirdgenFest on his ranch and tell him what you are looking for he can look for you. He is always buying cars. That is his line of business-buying thirdgens. Just click his link.

Stay in touch.

kins · 03-28-2007, 05:04 PM

Great news on the emissions. I think the cars would not run aswell taking off the cat without retuning due to the change in back pressure. I'm sure you would see significant gains loosing the cat and then a tune up.

I think I need to have a read up on TPI and TBI

for pointing out the differences. I think if I went for the 305 for the time being and then I could build another engine in my own time.

I'm interested in mapable ignition systems and wondering if a system such as megasquirt combined with bike throttle bodies on a custom manifold would work? I'd be very interested from anyone who has done this.

I don't know which link is Denny's?

I noticed you can't post ebay links on here. Why is that?
Can anyone recommend the best places to find 3rd gens?

All your help is appreciated guys.

kins · 03-28-2007, 06:15 PM

I spotted this on the classifieds. http://www.thirdgen.org/techboard/ca...ro-iroc-z.html (1988 Camaro IROC-Z) . Only trouble is it won't let me post in the classifieds. Do i need to build up my posts before I can post in that section?

It looks like a car i could be interested in. What do you guys think? I'm going to check to see how far he is away. I forgot to say I will be moving to Oak Lawn.

kins · 03-28-2007, 06:28 PM

Sorry I double posted.

T-rocZ88 · 03-28-2007, 06:30 PM

sounds good (the car), welcome to the site and the area (soon) im located really close to where you'll be at when you come to the states so if you need help with things i can lend a hand just like most of the guys on here.

88blkiroc · 03-28-2007, 06:36 PM

As far as induction systems go, I would try to find a TPI car. First off, you get the best motor of that size with the TPI and also because the TPI cars were the top of the range they tend to be in better condition then the TBI or carb cars. As far as switching to another intake system, you have many choices. I believe that you are talking about going to an setup with 8 individual throttlebodies on a single manifold correct? There are setups likem that out there but they are big money, around $2,000 and then you need a stand alone fuel management system to run it. There are also a lot of choices when it comes to that. You can use the stock setup and learn to burn chips, you can go with Megasquirt, or you can buy one of the systems out there on the market like Accel DFI, F.A.S.T. or Big Stuff. An individual TB setup is very nice looking but the area where it really shines, high RPM and throttle response, isnt really where small block chevys strong points are. If you really want a SBC to rev you are going to have to spend quite a bit of cash to build it up, probably around $4-$5,000 to have a really nice valvetrain that can handle high RPMs, remember these are pushrod motors. 3rd gen TPI cars, especially the 350 cars, made their name with low end torque. 330-340lb/ft depending on the year. With the stock TPI intake they start to run out of breath around 4,500-5,000rpm. Dont be disappointed though, you dont need high revs to get these cars moving. I'm going to really ramble if I keep going. Anyway, come to thirdgenfest, take a ride in a few cars and see what suits you. I'll be more then happy to give you a ride in either of my cars. As far as places to find cars for sale around here, check this site and www.mfba.org, www.autotrader.com, and www.cars.com.

novadk13 · 03-28-2007, 08:33 PM

Hey welcome just a few other sites to check out are http://chicago.craigslist.org/ and http://www.autotrader.com/ or PM Denny AKA LFN AT U, you can usually find what your looking for.

As for Chicago cars rust is a huge factor since they use the dreaded salt for winter snow melt, just like any other car give it a good look over.

I say find a good TPI car and go from there, 5 and 6 speed swaps are fairly straight forward and you can get most parts from our sites sponsors. Maybe check ebay for the trans as you can score good deals.

I can check out a local dealer they have 3 camaro's a white one and 2 red ones, if they are clean I'll get they guys card for you. But like I said before its starting to get hard to find clean 3rd gens, denny might be the best person to talk to he can find basically anything it seams like.

9D1BURD · 03-29-2007, 10:41 AM

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Originally Posted by kins

I spotted this on the classifieds. http://www.thirdgen.org/techboard/ca...ro-iroc-z.html (1988 Camaro IROC-Z) . Only trouble is it won't let me post in the classifieds. Do i need to build up my posts before I can post in that section?

It looks like a car i could be interested in. What do you guys think? I'm going to check to see how far he is away. I forgot to say I will be moving to Oak Lawn.

You need to be a member for 30 days or have 50 posts before you post in teh classified section. That method helps weed the good from the bad for the most part.

Welcome to our board, and soon our city.

Tim

kins · 04-10-2007, 06:21 PM

Hey guys.

I'm still here looking for a decent 3rd gen.

Just a recap I'm looking for a 88-92 car, with a 350 TPI and a manual box. Would ideally prefer a hardtop in black but would become flexible for the right car. I'm looking to spend $6000 tops.

If anyone knows/ has seen a car that is <300 miles from Chicago please drop me a mail karlrichardson1@hotmail.com

Thanks!

kins · 04-22-2007, 05:57 PM

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Originally Posted by 9D1BURD

You need to be a member for 30 days or have 50 posts before you post in teh classified section. That method helps weed the good from the bad for the most part.

Welcome to our board, and soon our city.

Tim

I still can't post in that section. I'm sure I've been a member for more than 30 days

! Can any moderators help with regards to this as I think it would help me get more response.

Not long now before I'm stateside. I'm still looking for a decent 3rd gen. I'm still after a 88-92 305 or even better 350 TPI, hardtop with manual box.. now considering all colours and similar spec firebirds. I will consider all cars up to £6000. I'd be happy with a driveable beater to restore or a very clean car.... show me what you have and name a price.

Please help I'm running out of time.

novadk13 · 04-22-2007, 07:57 PM

manual in good shape will be super hard, did you contact LFN AT U shoot him a personal message Im sure he has a few.

There was a white camaro hardtop in the little dealer down the road from me, looked in good shape. not sure how much they were closed, was an auto.

Your best bet is looking for a good body V-8 and do your own build up.

xpndbl3 · 04-22-2007, 08:04 PM

uhm 6000 pounds is $12000 US dollars isn't it? Last I checked a pound was worth $2 or around that amount. Honestly since you're moving near my hometown hit me up when you move here and I'll look around for you. No one will really hold a car for a few weeks for an international sale without ever seeing the person or the money. When you get out this way I'll ask around for you.

kins · 04-23-2007, 04:57 AM

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Originally Posted by xpndbl3

uhm 6000 pounds is $12000 US dollars isn't it? Last I checked a pound was worth $2 or around that amount. Honestly since you're moving near my hometown hit me up when you move here and I'll look around for you. No one will really hold a car for a few weeks for an international sale without ever seeing the person or the money. When you get out this way I'll ask around for you.

Oooops my typo. I mean $6000. I've got to get used to using that dollar key LOL!

Sure I know what your saying about someone holding a car. I've only been looking in advance because I don't want to be carless for ages when I get there.

kins · 04-23-2007, 05:11 AM

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Originally Posted by novadk13

manual in good shape will be super hard, did you contact LFN AT U shoot him a personal message Im sure he has a few.

There was a white camaro hardtop in the little dealer down the road from me, looked in good shape. not sure how much they were closed, was an auto.

Your best bet is looking for a good body V-8 and do your own build up.

That car looks pretty sweet from this angle.

I really would prefere a manual as I think autos take half the fun of driving away. I know manuals are a pain in the a$$ in the city but I think you can have more fun with a manual.

How easy is a auto - manual conversion? What parts are needed other than gearbox, pedals, clutch cable?

Thanks for the heads up on the car.

novadk13 · 04-23-2007, 05:27 PM

It was fairly clean, going to a manuals is not all that hard if you have some idea of what your doing.

Do a search on the Transmissions and Drivetrain board there is a lot of info.

88blkiroc · 04-23-2007, 05:40 PM

Kins, I know of a very clean 92 Firebird Formula with a 5 speed manual, 305 TPI motor, almost all stock. The car is black with black cloth interior and black crosslace wheels. Not only is it a good condition car but this is a very rare and very deseriable car that is completely loaded. PM more for more details. I don't own this car, it belongs to the next door neighbor of my parents and I am helping him find the right buyer for the car. I dont want to see this car go to someone who is going to abuse it as its has the potential to be a great thirdgen. PM me and we can talk more.

kins · 04-23-2007, 06:31 PM

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Originally Posted by 88blkiroc

Kins, I know of a very clean 92 Firebird Formula with a 5 speed manual, 305 TPI motor, almost all stock. The car is black with black cloth interior and black crosslace wheels. Not only is it a good condition car but this is a very rare and very deseriable car that is completely loaded. PM more for more details. I don't own this car, it belongs to the next door neighbor of my parents and I am helping him find the right buyer for the car. I dont want to see this car go to someone who is going to abuse it as its has the potential to be a great thirdgen. PM me and we can talk more.

Fantastic! Sounds good to me I'm very interested.

Is the car in Orland Park? Do you know how much they want for the car?

Please can you ask the owner to send some pictures to: karlrichardson1@hotmail.com

I'm looking forward to hearing from you.

88blkiroc · 04-23-2007, 08:26 PM

You have a PM Kins.

novadk13 · 04-23-2007, 10:00 PM

Not sure if you know but for some reason this area salts the hell out of roads when it snows, so clean bodies can go bad fairly quick.

I dont drive my 3rd gen when its cold let alone snowing so a cheap winter beater is another thing to consider or the rust patrol will strike again.

GTA http://www.chitownracing.com/forums/...ad.php?t=72453

kins · 04-27-2007, 04:47 PM

Yay I've now been a member for over a month and now have a wanted post in forsale of both firebird and camaro!

I get to America on Tuesday. Place your bets now when you think I'll have my butt in a 3rd gen.

kins · 05-18-2007, 04:10 PM

Hi Guys,

Just to fill you in - I'm in the process of buying an 88' GTA. I've given the guy a deposit on the car and I will be picking her up tomorrow. I'm looking forward to it. I'll keep you posted on how it goes. Thanks for everyones help and advice in finding me the right car

xpndbl3 · 05-18-2007, 06:58 PM

no problem hope to see you at thirdgenfest this coming memorial weekend with it. Look for me, I'll be the big guy sitting by the beer cooler and my camaro probably not moving.

novadk13 · 05-19-2007, 12:46 AM

Pontiac version looks better anyways

cant wait for pics

88blkiroc · 05-19-2007, 10:28 AM

Congrats man, is that the car you were telling me about? Send me some pics or bring it by the shop and we can toss it up on the lift and give her a good going over. You going to bring it to thirdgenfest?
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Originally Posted by xpndbl3

probably not moving.

You or the car?

91CamaroRS305 · 05-19-2007, 04:18 PM

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Originally Posted by 88blkiroc

You or the car?

ZING!!!!

actually knowing steve, probably both

xpndbl3 · 05-19-2007, 09:16 PM

the car is a trailer queen. and me....i'll be wandering aimlessly probably mumbling holding 1-3 beers at all times. Only day of the year I get away with this

kyle you need cooler space to add a newcastle 6 pack

??

kins · 05-19-2007, 11:39 PM

Well I picked her up today and have a big grin on my face. Trouble is there so much I want to do to the car to restore her. I've a list as long as my arm.

From what I've picked up on today here what I feel she needs as the car stands today:

The front bumper needs re spraying - the paint is cracking off.

The car doesn't have a rear spoiler

- I've seen people on here talk about aftermarket GRP wings - any recommendations?

There are one or two small (coin size) dings / small scrapes here and there.

I would like to get a spoiler, have it painted (as well as the front bumper) and maybe the dings pulled out and scratches touched up. Generally the paint is pretty decent but I'd like to tidy those areas up.

The passenger side wing-door shut line is way out. The trunk lid overhangs. Hmmm

I need a good body shop guy nr Oak Lawn that will do it for a decent price. Can anyone point me in the right direction?

The cars roof liner is removed at present, I'm not sure what state it is in or why it was taken off. If I need a new roof liner what options do I have here? Can I buy a one piece plastic/foam molded roof liner? (The car is a hardtop). The rear view mirror, sun visors, and interior A-pillar trim are also not fitted at present.

The air con does not blow cold. I'm hoping it just needs a recharge.

The antenna is after market and non powered and the wing grommet is missing.

The boot... sorry "trunk" lid does not open with the key... you have to solenoid pop it. The car also has 2 keys for doors and ignition. The signals to me at least one of the locks has been busted at some point. I could do with some new re-cut keys too - the plastic on them is flimsy.

The wheels and tires are pretty clean although I'm missing a center cap and a couple of wheel nut covers. The spare needs pumping up (ha ha took me a while to find the damn think LOL).

OK there is my list of things to do. She sounds like a heap but I assure you shes not. Mainly small cosmetic issues. When I'm finished she should be pretty sweet. Work in progress, watch this space.

Kyle I will bring her down to your shop soon. I need to get her fully road legal in terms of title, registration, plates, insurance. I need to get an IL license too as my UK license is only good for so long and it would help with my insurance.

I'm going to give her another good look over tomorrow and maybe a clean inside and out. I'll take some pictures so you guys can see what I've got.

If I'm road legal by next weekend I'll bring her down to 3rd gen fest!!

xpndbl3 · 05-20-2007, 02:56 AM

door and ignition keys are always 2 separate keys on older american vehicles.

88blkiroc · 05-20-2007, 07:22 AM

Kins, sounds like a nice ride man. Bring her on down to the shop and we can get all that little stuff like the A/C and the keys knocked out. I have a key cutter at the shop. BTW on these cars the "boot" is called the hatch

As far as a body shop in Oak Lawn, talk to Pete at TRS, he right on Southwest Highway by Star Motors (the place with all the Mercedes and Bimmers out front). Tell him Len at Milex (my dad) sent you down there. He does good work for a really good price. As far as a spoiler goes, personally I'd upgrade to a 91-92 Formula/TA style or I think Hawks has a 4th gen style that is made to fit on the 3rd gens. They also have reproduction early style spoilers like what would be on there stock. If you go to thirdgenfest I'm sure Denny will have a few laying around. You can probably also pickup a headliner panel from him as well. What color is the interior? What kind of rims does it have? Get some pictures up man or if you dont have a camera I can take some down here at the shop.

kins · 05-20-2007, 11:42 AM

Oh thats nice to no about the keys being separate.

Kyle the rims are the stock GTA rims (gold cross spoke). I'm sure I read somewhere that the gold piece is Magnesium and the outers aluminium. If thats true they must be light as hell.

I forgot to say I got a black one like I wanted

The interior is black cloth, and it has the digital dash

I've got a cam so I'll take a few pics today and post them up here.

Karl

xpndbl3 · 05-20-2007, 01:26 PM

karl, make sure to have kyle let me know when you cruise up to his shop, I'll bring out the blue dragon as well. In fact I might already be on his lifts

Got 1 week before the car show, so a lot needs to be done.

kins · 05-20-2007, 01:27 PM

Sure I will do... it could be a mini fest LOL.

3.8TransAM · 05-20-2007, 02:00 PM

Kins,

U just make sure u get your aluminium boot to Thirdgen Fest.

I can talk Jaguar with u quite well :-)

Hope to see u there

later
Jeremy

kins · 05-20-2007, 02:47 PM

Can I pay on the day for 3rd Gen Fest?

What Jaguars have you got? I'll bring my aluminium boot if you haul your aluminum trunk. LOL

If I've got all me documentation legit by then I'll be there.

3.8TransAM · 05-20-2007, 03:05 PM

lol I was never dumb enough to own won, I was a dealer tech for 6 yrs on them however :-)

xpndbl3 · 05-20-2007, 05:54 PM

yes you can pay on the day of thirdgenfest if you like. Also I am running a caravan from my house down to the fest if you'd like to join in on it let me know since you're only one town over from my house.

88blkiroc · 05-20-2007, 07:45 PM

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Originally Posted by kins

Sure I will do... it could be a mini fest LOL.

Every day is a mini thirdgen fest at my shop. I've got three there right now. All birds too

kins · 05-24-2007, 07:13 PM

As promised pics of my car: http://www.thirdgen.org/techboard/nw...=1#post3351522 (Pics of my 1st 3rd gen)

I spoke top Kyle today and he said a couple of of you are cruising down to 3rd gen fest.... do you mind if I join in on the fun?

xpndbl3 · 05-24-2007, 11:35 PM

sure if you'd like to join us on the caravan, just check your PM's and I'll leave you a phone number to call me to get the directions for saturday morning.

kins · 05-25-2007, 12:14 AM

Hi Steve...PM sent mate.