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06-12-2008, 04:39 PM
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#1 | | Senior Member
Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Schaumburg, Il
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Car: 1987 Trans am Engine: Cammin Ls1 Transmission: Th400 w/brake 5500 stall Axle/Gears: Moser 9" w/ 4.11's | New motor with pics..... Well alot of you might remember that i was building a 408 ls1 with a huge gt47-88mm turbo, well i got in really over my head and had everything i needed to build it but had no money left over for a cage or any safety equiptment for a 1300hp car. Well i sold off everything and picked up a 6.0l iron truck block and some 243 ls6 heads that i did a little porting to. Just going to run a single plane with 4 barrel tb as well. Has a decent sized cam in it for and ls1, little small for the 6.0l but i had it laying around. Also had some arp head studs, ati balancer and tci flexplate that i am using rather than selling. Had some shaft mount rockers that i was trying to sell but i wasnt going to get what i needed for them so i decided to use them lol. I know the rockers are worth more than the motor alone lol.
i am installing the motor later today and just waiting the headers i ordered and going to redo the fuel lines. the motor will still run on e85 so i can run slightly more timing. would have loved to have increased compression but i wanted to do it on a budget. I decided to paint it chevy orange as well. Ill update more later.
Pics.....
Let me know what you guys think...
__________________ 1987 Trans Am Cammed Ls1, Electric WP, Drag Alternator, Ls6 Intake, PTB Throttle Body, Stainless longtube headers, True duals w/ bullets, Th400 w/ transbrake and 5500 stall, ford 9" w/ 35 spline axles, spool, 4.11's. www.performancethrottlebodies.com |
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06-12-2008, 05:26 PM
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Join Date: Dec 1999 Location: Calgary
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Car: 89 Formula Engine: 350 Transmission: TH 700R4 Axle/Gears: 3.27 | Re: New motor with pics..... looks nice (not fan of the "Chevy" orange though)--what kind of times are you hoping for? |
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06-12-2008, 05:32 PM
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#3 | | Senior Member
Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Schaumburg, Il
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Car: 1987 Trans am Engine: Cammin Ls1 Transmission: Th400 w/brake 5500 stall Axle/Gears: Moser 9" w/ 4.11's | Re: New motor with pics..... Quote:
Originally Posted by avro206 looks nice (not fan of the "Chevy" orange though)--what kind of times are you hoping for? | nothing too crazy just yet. in the 10's for sure on motor tho. My past 3 motors have all been gloss black and i have never done a chevy orange chevy motor so i decided i would do it this time around, and since it will have a 4 barrel setup it will look "old school" I really like how it looks in person. |
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06-12-2008, 05:53 PM
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#4 | | Senior Member
Join Date: Dec 1999 Location: Calgary
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Car: 89 Formula Engine: 350 Transmission: TH 700R4 Axle/Gears: 3.27 | Re: New motor with pics..... I see your point on the colour issue and
Nothing to crazy..10's  I'd be happy witha 12.5...maybe |
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06-12-2008, 10:51 PM
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Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: St. John
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Car: 98 Expy, 87 IROC Engine: 4six, 352 Transmission: Autos Axle/Gears: 3.55/3.73 | Re: New motor with pics..... I accept all stock used LS1 parts for free. . . |
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06-13-2008, 01:02 AM
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#6 | | Senior Member
Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Highwood, IL
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Car: 1983 trans am Engine: stock for now Transmission: th350 Axle/Gears: 10bolt 3.23's | Re: New motor with pics..... nice to see some progress Tim i was worried when i saw you sellin all your parts. its just so cool to beat a mustang thats pushing 15-20psi while your runnin n/a haha 
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06-13-2008, 01:33 AM
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#7 | | Senior Member
Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Schaumburg, Il
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Car: 1987 Trans am Engine: Cammin Ls1 Transmission: Th400 w/brake 5500 stall Axle/Gears: Moser 9" w/ 4.11's | Re: New motor with pics..... Quote:
Originally Posted by MaNiAk86 nice to see some progress Tim i was worried when i saw you sellin all your parts. its just so cool to beat a mustang thats pushing 15-20psi while your runnin n/a haha  | Thanks, yea i just wanted to get it back on the street, im not really cutting any corners since i have some decent parts still in the motor, and it should still run well. |
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06-13-2008, 09:33 AM
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Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Bartlett IL
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Car: 1989 Formula 350 Engine: 350 fuel injected Transmission: 700R4 Axle/Gears: 9 bolt w/370 gears | Re: New motor with pics..... Make up your mind and get that thing on the street already. Looks good though. What trans are you going to run, 400 still? |
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06-13-2008, 12:57 PM
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#9 | | Senior Member
Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Schaumburg, Il
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Car: 1987 Trans am Engine: Cammin Ls1 Transmission: Th400 w/brake 5500 stall Axle/Gears: Moser 9" w/ 4.11's | Re: New motor with pics..... Quote:
Originally Posted by paulbuiltbird Make up your mind and get that thing on the street already. Looks good though. What trans are you going to run, 400 still? | lol yea, its still the th400 with 5500 stall and brake and still have the 9" with 4.11's |
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06-13-2008, 05:10 PM
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#10 | | Senior Member
Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Schaumburg, Il
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Car: 1987 Trans am Engine: Cammin Ls1 Transmission: Th400 w/brake 5500 stall Axle/Gears: Moser 9" w/ 4.11's | Re: New motor with pics..... and some pics of the car after installing the shortblock.  |
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06-13-2008, 06:38 PM
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Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Highwood, IL
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Car: 1983 trans am Engine: stock for now Transmission: th350 Axle/Gears: 10bolt 3.23's | Re: New motor with pics..... im jealous.... |
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06-13-2008, 07:17 PM
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Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Kouts,IN
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Car: 88 Firebird, 86 T/A Engine: 3.1/305 short block Transmission: 700r4 w/ transgo, vette servo/700r4 | Re: New motor with pics..... love the hood prop...  |
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06-21-2008, 07:43 PM
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#13 | | Senior Member
Join Date: May 2002 Location: Chicago, Il
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Car: 1987 Trans Am Engine: Lt1 Transmission: T56 | Re: New motor with pics..... Quote:
Originally Posted by dodger65 love the hood prop...  |
Since it's Chevy orange, it needs to have that crutch  |
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07-19-2008, 02:55 AM
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#14 | | Senior Member
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Car: 1987 Trans am Engine: Cammin Ls1 Transmission: Th400 w/brake 5500 stall Axle/Gears: Moser 9" w/ 4.11's | Re: New motor with pics..... Alright well time for a little update, It been moving along slowly since i am in summer school so i only work on it on the weekends and when i am not drinking, sooo thats not often lol. Also doesnt help that speed inc took over a month to get me my head gaskets($180 and a month to get is ridiculous).
Since then i have torqued the heads on, re assembled all the rocker stands and set the valve lash. I have also re done the entire engine harness since i will not be running knock sensors, maf sensor, o2's ect since its a full speed density tune.
I am also relocating the coil packs inside the car. I will get them done once i have the headers in.
I am still deciding on what to do for headers, i used to have the stainless works and they were nice. Now i am looking for at least 1 7/8 primary and at least 3" collectors so i might mod a set of bbc headers. I can get some local for $150 basically new so i might try that first.
I also had a really nice 4" air filter on it but it wouldnt clear my hood so i went to this 2.5" one.
Here are some pics...  |
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07-19-2008, 09:49 PM
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#15 | | Senior Member
Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Highwood, IL
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Car: 1983 trans am Engine: stock for now Transmission: th350 Axle/Gears: 10bolt 3.23's | Re: New motor with pics..... looks nassty... summit brand air filter huh?? i got the same one haha
- so who is gonna tune this monster?
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07-20-2008, 03:57 PM
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Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Schaumburg, Il
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Car: 1987 Trans am Engine: Cammin Ls1 Transmission: Th400 w/brake 5500 stall Axle/Gears: Moser 9" w/ 4.11's | Re: New motor with pics..... Quote:
Originally Posted by MaNiAk86 looks nassty... summit brand air filter huh?? i got the same one haha
- so who is gonna tune this monster? | Yep the summit air filter lol. I will be doing most of the tuning but will probably have a shop tune for wot on a dyno, to get the timing to make peak hp. Other than that i have tuned my last 3 motors on the street and at the track. |
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07-20-2008, 10:55 PM
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#17 | | Senior Member
Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Highwood, IL
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Car: 1983 trans am Engine: stock for now Transmission: th350 Axle/Gears: 10bolt 3.23's | Re: New motor with pics..... very cool... im looking forward to tuning my motor with a screwdriver haha. once i get some other junk outta the garage i can swap mine in. |
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08-23-2008, 08:39 PM
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#18 | | Senior Member
Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Chicagoland Area
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Car: 1989TransAmGTA/1986TransAm Engine: 350 L98 Stock / 305 LB9 Stock Transmission: 700r4 x2 Axle/Gears: Borg Warner 3.27 Posi / 2.73 | Re: New motor with pics..... Where did you get the block from? Id like to do a build also |
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08-24-2008, 12:06 AM
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#19 | | Senior Member
Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Elgin, IL
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Car: '98 Z28 Engine: LS1 :( Transmission: T-56 Axle/Gears: Ford 9" TrueTrac/3.89 | Re: New motor with pics..... Check eBay, LS1tech, CamaroZ28, and some local speed shops. Could also call up a few junkyards, etc. |
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09-13-2008, 08:49 PM
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#20 | | Senior Member
Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Chicagoland Area
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Car: 1989TransAmGTA/1986TransAm Engine: 350 L98 Stock / 305 LB9 Stock Transmission: 700r4 x2 Axle/Gears: Borg Warner 3.27 Posi / 2.73 | Re: New motor with pics..... Hello, Im going to be puchasing a 1999 Chevy van 350 Vortec block soon. I was just wondering what liter you think it will be?, iron block? las1 capable?
If you could answer those in any way thanks |
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09-13-2008, 11:33 PM
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Join Date: Feb 2000 Location: Schererville , IN
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Car: 91 GTA, 91 Formula, 89 TTA Engine: all 225+ RWHP Transmission: all OD Axle/Gears: Always the good ones | Re: New motor with pics..... Quote:
Originally Posted by firebird896 Hello, Im going to be puchasing a 1999 Chevy van 350 Vortec block soon. I was just wondering what liter you think it will be?, iron block? las1 capable?
If you could answer those in any way thanks | Ummmmm then it would be a 350 vortec engine. conventional small block, your not gonna swap much of it with anything on a LS anything.
However u got a good base to build yourself an efficient and semi powerful small block there. |
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09-13-2008, 11:46 PM
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#22 | | Senior Member
Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Chicagoland Area
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Car: 1989TransAmGTA/1986TransAm Engine: 350 L98 Stock / 305 LB9 Stock Transmission: 700r4 x2 Axle/Gears: Borg Warner 3.27 Posi / 2.73 | Re: New motor with pics..... Hmm ok, so would I be better off just goin with an 87' 355 block for $150 with almost everythin, or the vortec block for $75 |
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09-13-2008, 11:53 PM
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#23 | | Moderator
Join Date: Feb 2000 Location: Schererville , IN
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Car: 91 GTA, 91 Formula, 89 TTA Engine: all 225+ RWHP Transmission: all OD Axle/Gears: Always the good ones | Re: New motor with pics..... Truck engine should be a 4 bolt main block.
The vortec heads are superior to any other small block head out there.
I would take it personally and its cheaper too.
No diff in the blocks |
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09-14-2008, 12:06 AM
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#24 | | Senior Member
Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Chicagoland Area
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Car: 1989TransAmGTA/1986TransAm Engine: 350 L98 Stock / 305 LB9 Stock Transmission: 700r4 x2 Axle/Gears: Borg Warner 3.27 Posi / 2.73 | Re: New motor with pics..... ok I get it now
Thanks Jerry |
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09-14-2008, 12:38 AM
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#25 | | Senior Member
Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: St. John
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Car: 98 Expy, 87 IROC Engine: 4six, 352 Transmission: Autos Axle/Gears: 3.55/3.73 | Re: New motor with pics..... Quote:
Originally Posted by 3.8TransAM Truck engine should be a 4 bolt main block.
The vortec heads are superior to any other small block head out there.
I would take it personally and its cheaper too.
No diff in the blocks | REPRESENT  |
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09-14-2008, 01:06 AM
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#26 | | Senior Member
Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Chicagoland Area
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Car: 1989TransAmGTA/1986TransAm Engine: 350 L98 Stock / 305 LB9 Stock Transmission: 700r4 x2 Axle/Gears: Borg Warner 3.27 Posi / 2.73 | Re: New motor with pics..... Haha nice, Ok Chevy engines are orange, What are pontiac engines then? |
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09-14-2008, 01:31 AM
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#27 | | Senior Member
Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: St. John
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Car: 98 Expy, 87 IROC Engine: 4six, 352 Transmission: Autos Axle/Gears: 3.55/3.73 | Re: New motor with pics..... uh, not all Chevy engines are orange. Most truck blocks were blue or black. And Pontiac, I dunno blue...? dont like them much |
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