About what should my car run in the 1/4 with what it has now? 305 TPI, 700r4, 3.42 gears, Hooker Shorty headers, bored .030 over, Comp Cams (260/260 duration .444.444 lift), K&N's, Hypertech Chip. What should I do to get it into the lower 14's?

have u took it to the track yet?

It hasn't been to the track yet.

That cam is HUGE, are you sure that's correct?

Yeah, thats the advertised duration. At .050 its 212/212.

Oh ok 212/212.

That hyperjunk chip isn't helping, especially with that cam unless you had them custom make one for you.

The chip was in the car when I bought it. I put the cam in afterwards.

Any ideas on what kind of times I can expect?

i'd say mid to low 14's

Get youre tranny done and add a 22-2400 stall converter. when u changed out the cam, did you add 1.6rr's. if not i would, some more lift outta that cam would be a good thing. I think youll be pleasently surprised on yure e/t's if tuned good, and you can hook that thing up.

what compression being bored over 30?
without a tune low 15!!

I dont know the compression on it. The motor was already bored when I bought it. The car now has 3.73 gears and a 5 speed. How much should this affect my times. I also just got my chip programmed for everything I did to it.

Was it dyno tuned? Or a mail order? Mail order tunes scare me

It was a mail order tune by Tuned Port Induction Programming Services.

If you can launch it and drive it, along with a good tune, it will probably run mid 13's. If any of the above doesn't happen, mid 14's.

@15 (if your lucky).

No way in HELL anywhere a 13.

Really? Why?

I ran 13.89 in my 84 HO 5spd with just a Hypertech stage II chip, thermostat, K&N, more timing, charcoal ring taken off, air pump belt off, and no cat. That was back in 87 and on 235 Euro T/A's, so no drag tires.

More mods on his, so he has a chance if the conditions are right.

I don't know what your time will be, but if you go to a track at sealevel such as Englishtown raceway park in NJ you will run your best time on a good day there.

Some tracks they consider "fast tracks" I believe that is one of them.

i have a 5 spd with full bolt ons but factory cam and 1.6 rockers and i trap at 92-94 at the track thats good for a mid/low 14 if u can rly rly drive stick u can hit a low 14 if not ull do like me and have a best of at 15 sec flat lolz.

High 13's

[quote=85Iroc-Z;3980770] The car now has 3.73 gears and a 5 speed. [quote]


Yeah that would have helped to know about the 3.73's going from 3.42 to 3.73 made a couple tenths under a full second difference in my current car. id give you low 14's and yes if you get stupid good traction high 13 being the altitude your at

Wow
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Wow thats a load of crap. Sorry to say. An 84 5.0 HO only made 195 horse so yours made maybe 200 horse. So id say it would run like high 15s at its fastest. You really really over exagerated.

You were there? I ran at Capitol Raceway and it did run the number with those mods. Car was still fairly new as it was only a couple of years old when I bought it and started modding it. Whether you can't or won't believe what it ran is up to you. I had lots of people like you saying the same crap back then. Has to be a 350 because a 305 doesn't run that good, must be spraying, etc. There were quite a few of us that knew how to drive and mod the cars to get the most out of it. Nothing has changed today other than everything is better. Give me the same car today and I'll get an even better time with it. That was over 20 years ago and things are just better now.

Maybe you need to learn to drive a little better.

if everything goes rite with cammed/tune/driver/5speed/traction u 'might' dipp 13s

u will proli hit low 14s

id say mid 14's....

friend of mine built a 89 Lb9 powered camaro to run into the 13.7 range

specs:
summit 1103 cam(214/224--.442/.465)--stock rockers
113 vette aluminum heads
ported/polished(gasket match)
tune
2600 stall(iirc)
3.23 gear

not really much if you know what your doing

and also....car could of went fast but he cut a 2.2 60ft time lol.....

it wasnt fastest enough so he went 383 with accel super-ram

That seems like a pretty lazy cam profile, not exactly something that would work well with TPI. No stall converter, mail order chip. I would guess that you would be looking at somewhere around 14 flat maybe a little less.

200 horse can only take you so fast no matter how well you can drive. Those couple little things you did won't jump the engine very much power at all. So like I said, Brand new off the lot a 1984 Z28 5.0 H.O came with 195 horsepower which is absolutely pathetic. I know this because I have a 1984 Z28. 20 years ago was a long time, maybe you forgot that your time was probably more like a high 15.

if you wernt there....you dont know then

hell guys like Mw66nova built 305's that ran 12 and better on this site alone. I personally know a guy at local drag strip that runs consistently in the 13.5 bracket with a tpi lb9

Yea a BUILT 305 not a stock 195 horse 305 what don't you get about that? A tuned port 305 made a hell of a lot more power than an 84 H.O 305. The tuned port made 230 horse and 300 ft/lbs. And even a STOCK one of those cars would not run even close to a 13.5 notice I said STOCK not BUILT. I personaly know a guy that has a 95 six speed lt1 camaro with 4:10s, a tune, and radials and the best time he could run was a 13.9. and yes he can drive

Obviously not...that time is pathetic unless you're 5 miles above sea level.

haha ive got 500 dollars on this race....

ill race him with my old 95 trans am....BONE STOCK lt1/m6 car 3.42 gear and street tires....i went fuggin 13.5-13.7 ALL DAY!!!!!!!

ill go and dig the slips out to prove it.....that guy cannot drive car to save his life if he can only get a 13.9!

hell.....one of my best friends has a 94 trans am with same lt1/m6/3.42 setup as me....but with drag radials and went a staggering 13.2!!!!!!!!

its the driver....not the cars

When I got it, it ran 15.2 just like the brochure said it would run. After doing the mods, it ran 13.89. I could care less what you think because that is what it ran.


With those same mods that you think wouldn't make the car faster, I knocked off 87 and 88 5.7 IROC's with ease. I had two buddies that had one of each, brand new, the 87 ran 14.3 and the 88 ran 14.2. On the street, I was a couple lengths ahead. When they started modding, basically the same mods I had,I lost. Maybe all of us were lying when the scoreboard lit up our times

As far as your friend running a 13.9 with those mods, maybe you can drive as good as him because he can't obviously drive.

Wow why do you always try to argue? you just make your self look dumber. You must of gained 150 horse to drop over a second lol. And with your "Mods" you sure as hell didn't. You obviously know absolutetly nothing about cars no offense. Oh and yes he can drive. And in this little fantasy world you live in I would run low 8s lol. Maybe you ran at an eighth mile track. Too bad you don't live closer, I would love to race. You don't spend too much time at the track do you?

Dude, stock 305 tbi's run 15's and anything you do to these motors helps.

Dude, I've been going to the track longer than you've been alive. My little fantasy world is reality. Maybe you should join up, it really isn't that bad.

I know a little about cars, been doing that longer than you've been alive also. Spare me your little "knowledge" of knowing what you are talking about.

Obviously, you don't need an extra 150 hp to run those numbers, at least not me. Maybe you do, especially if your buddy can barely break into the 13's with those mods.

even if the tbi runs in the 15's a car with maybe 35 more horse isn't going to run 13'89.

He's far from stock, High 13's low 14's for a good driver sounds reasonable. Only way to find out, take it to a track!

What you guys fail to realize, conditions for the run was just about as perfect as you could ask for. Cool night, great air, great pad, etc.

The car was in perfect condition. From timing cranked, plugs indexed and running perfect, air pump pulley belt off, hooking great off the pad, power shifting every gear, all the mods, etc. Everything was perfect. Easily pick up power just from the conditions.

HP numbers do mean something but not everything. The increase isn't at peak, its everywhere that really counts. Gearing, more than likely, is the only reason I could beat my buddies IROC's. They were making just as much as I was when they were stock. As I said previously, once they started playing with it, I lost. Those are facts whether anyone wants to believe that or not.

Maybe I'm a good driver? I'm good, not the best. Others have gotten better times than what I did with the same mods on other cars I've owned. I'm right there but not at the top.

Its a combination of a properly tuned car, driving, and great air. Wish I still had the timeslip to show as I wrote the mods and air at the time on every time slip. Threw them all away when the car caught fire and was totaled.

I'll try to stay out of this conversation from now on as its basically my word against a few. Can't prove it anymore so why try.

Here's a pic of what the fire did, it was a short in the computer.

84Z28M5,A4L69 V89.5:15.0 (305) 190@4800 240@3200 4bbl HO3.73----3.423.73
That car ran 13.89? Lol ok?

...and what reason would Rob have to lie about times he ran many, MANY years ago?

Not to mention his ride was pretty close to brand new when he was doing that.

Thanks for reminding me why I rarely post on this form. Ill post on a form where people actually know some things about cars. No offense but you obviously just post on this form because the words street racing remind you of fast and the furious and you think your cars are fast just because of the fact that you own them.

Who was that directed towards?

[quote=DerfPower509;4003689]Thanks for reminding me why I rarely post on this form. Ill post on a form where people actually know some things about cars. No offense but you obviously just post on this form because the words street racing remind you of fast and the furious and you think your cars are fast just because of the fact that you own them.[/quote







You must help a lot huh, all 18 posts worth, very helpful. Move along now.
think www.isuckatdriving.com needs new forums members

[quote=rough;4005464]He only has 18 posts because he has only been on here since december. you cant say he cant drive because you have never seen him. I have and he can drive and his car is fast.