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Old 03-27-2009, 12:42 AM   #1
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Pics of sump with exhaust, and something Strange! 12 bolt

Here are some pics, picked up 12 bolt today finally, got it painted and in car.. I have installed 2 Moser 12 bolts in F-Bodies, I have to say Strange was far better IMO.. Palleted and boxed very sturdy, came with everything, no install kits needed, everything lined up perfect, came with 3qts Lucas gear oil, conversion U-Joint, swaybar mounts already welded on, brakes lined up perfect using their billet mounts - needed when using LT1 brakes, stockers will not work. All that and cheaper than moser.
Sump is completed with exhaust installed, fits nicely! Only bad things, I have been using thirdgen aluminum shaft, well U-Joints are different on D/S end between the 2, initially thought they sent me wrong joint then lloked at a 4th gen alum I have and seen they were different. So had to use the bigger shaft, now home made D/S loop does not fit, have to do some mods to clear larger D/S.
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Re: Pics of sump with exhaust, and something Strange! 12 bolt

Oooo shiney! - Looks good man.

Maybe a heat shield between the muffler and the sump/line to help avoid heat soak into the fuel? - might be a good idea, pics can be decieveing.
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Oooo shiney! - Looks good man.

Maybe a heat shield between the muffler and the sump/line to help avoid heat soak into the fuel? - might be a good idea, pics can be decieveing.
Yeah, I put several coates of rusto hammered finish with clear over top, looks much prettier in person, I am hopeing that its so slippery all the oil I spew will run right off
Pics are decieving, but muffler is still close, its about an 1.5" away from rear edge of sump and rear edge of muffler, but they V away from one another. I was thinking of putting dyna mat on the sump, may get to hot though and melt glue, I will get something on it.
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Re: Pics of sump with exhaust, and something Strange! 12 bolt

Another warning to those sumping stock tank, no matter how much you flush out your tank, your summit filter will find what you didn't and leave you stranded 15 miles into the test drive!
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Another warning to those sumping stock tank, no matter how much you flush out your tank, your summit filter will find what you didn't and leave you stranded 15 miles into the test drive!
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Re: Pics of sump with exhaust, and something Strange! 12 bolt

Awesome, you just call up strange? can i have a link... it's that time of the year again, drag season... I love it I love it!!!!
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Awesome, you just call up strange? can i have a link... it's that time of the year again, drag season... I love it I love it!!!!
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Re: Pics of sump with exhaust, and something Strange! 12 bolt

Looks great! I had a few questions though:

What muffler is that?
Is that the CE sump?
Do you use one fitting in the sump for the return an one for feed?
Did you consider the Aeromotive sump?

I'm cooking up a 1000hp engine now, and have been working through the fuel system. I'm running a Walbro 340 intank with an Eliminator kicked on with a boost reference hobbs Should be quiet and not heat fuel on 100 mile drives.
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Another warning to those sumping stock tank, no matter how much you flush out your tank, your summit filter will find what you didn't and leave you stranded 15 miles into the test drive!
That's why everytime i chime in on a "sump my stock tank" i HIGHLY recommend just parting with the $230 for a brand spankin new one, easier to cut, weld, and you not knocking all that rust and crap loose inside. Cut with shears so there's zero shavings/debris to get inside and your done....i was in your shoes, got a stuck float, burned up 2- A2000 pumps...overall PITFA to put it midly.

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Looks great! I had a few questions though:

What muffler is that?
Is that the CE sump?
Do you use one fitting in the sump for the return an one for feed?
Did you consider the Aeromotive sump?

I'm cooking up a 1000hp engine now, and have been working through the fuel system. I'm running a Walbro 340 intank with an Eliminator kicked on with a boost reference hobbs Should be quiet and not heat fuel on 100 mile drives.
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Yes its a comp, Just used one for feed and used stock return line to top of tank. Other wise you are pushing against 35 lbs of fuel if you try to return on bottom. As for the Aeromotive, have not even seen it..

As for the filter issues, I was just using a disc filter with very little area, I just bought a larger trickflow unit with canister inside after clogging up the disc again!
I was a Pita, but I would do it again.. However I may have punched the holes instead.. There was no rust in my tank at all, but just using a sump in general picks up alot more debris, everything falls to bottom..
The pump is decently quite, I put some dynamat on inside where bolts come through, I am going to put some rubber under mounts as well, can barely hear it right now..
Last night got window switch wired up, bottle mounted, wired up heater tonight mostly and made a new d/s loop. should be ready to have fun soon.
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Re: Pics of sump with exhaust, and something Strange! 12 bolt

looks good! and makes me feel a little better about how close my stuff is. mine's a 4" single with a magnaflow muffler and has some fittings welded into the bottom of the tank off to the passenger side corner of the tank...it's really close around where the elbow goes into the muffler, but i'm not really worried about it.
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Re: Pics of sump with exhaust, and something Strange! 12 bolt

Matt,

You don't even have a sump? How has that worked for you? I've been considering it for 2009 and 2010, I'll do it right and sump it. Most people are saying you need to keep the tank half full at least with just fittings. Any comments? Thanks!
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Re: Pics of sump with exhaust, and something Strange! 12 bolt

it's worked ok so far, i haven't had any real issues. it does seem to take a little capacity away but for now, that's not a real big deal.
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it's worked ok so far, i haven't had any real issues. it does seem to take a little capacity away but for now, that's not a real big deal.
I was thinking same thing, I tried that on my Camaro 10yrs ago, had alot of fuel starvation unless there was alot in tank as mentioned.. However I put it on driverside which did not help at all.. Ended up welding 1/2 metal line in place of stock pick-up.. Was still using when i sold the car running mid 9s mallory comp 250 pump.. But this time wanted to sump, so far is good with new filter, drove about 20 miles yesterday, will drive some more today and maybe pull filter to check...
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Here are some pics, picked up 12 bolt today finally, got it painted and in car.. I have installed 2 Moser 12 bolts in F-Bodies, I have to say Strange was far better IMO..
Bout time man. Cant wait to see what that car can do now with proper launch. You spraying it again? Where did you get your rears from?
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Bout time man. Cant wait to see what that car can do now with proper launch. You spraying it again? Where did you get your rears from?
Yeah, I am spraying it, just got all hooked up, heater and all.. Until I get some new line I can't go any higher than 130hp or so.. Found bottle neck in system from when on the 87, the line from n20 solenoid to plate is smaller ID than the 150 hp orfice! Thats why the car was stuck at 10.0...
I am sweating the D/S though right now, but I will give it a shot I think soon as I get time - possible next week maybe..
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