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The results are borderline amazing to me. I installed one of those cheap Summit clamp-on 3" cutouts into my I-pipe. With it open the car went 11.25 @ 121mph with only a 1.76 60ft. As I did my burnout I realized I had forgotten to air down the tires from the drive to the track so I eased it out of the hole - Thus the crappy 60ft. The car is pretty consistent. Seems regardless of weather the car always runs 11.55-11.58's at 118-119mph. Another thing I did was install a shift light. It turns out my factory tach is slow by 1500RPM so I've been shifting the motor at 5500-5600RPM the entire time.
I can't comprehend why this car is so fast considering the parts it has and the lack of effort put into it.... Just sheer dumb luck. The car weighs 3496lbs with me in it plus when I drive it to the track I lug along about 80lbs worth of tools. Hopefully some time this week I'll figure out why my nitrous isn't working and I'll make a spray pass with it.
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Last edited by 88IROC350TPI; 04-27-2009 at 08:46 AM.
Car has non-adjustable Spohn LCA's & relocation brackets, and the front sway bar removed. Other than that it's all stock. Still no sub frame connectors or roll bar.
Sounds like were both on the same page. I have similar times as you and am also pretty damn surprised given the lack of racing parts that I have. When are you going to get out next I think a race between would be interesting and very close.
__________________ 1986 Camaro SC - SOLD
383/T-350/4.10'S/PUMP GAS
10.71 @ 126 W/ 1.52 60FT
Single 3 inch is way too restrictive for your car, hell it was even for mine. I was running mid 13's one week, cut the exhaust off, went back and ran a 12.22. Exhaust went back on and the car slowed down a lot, again.
__________________ Best times to date, motor pass: 11.81 @ 114.55 1.63 60' 10/18/08
nitrous pass: 10.49 @ 126 mph 1.42 60' 10/18/08
350, AFR 195 heads, Eagle H-beam 6" rods, Victor Jr,
750 Race Demon, ProMagnum RR's, Hooker LT, TH400, Spohn T/A and C/M
I had dual cutouts on my 383 i destroyed, it went 8.7 in the 1/8th, with them on running thru the I pipe, took the caps off and went 8.3. Some cars do not gain much, but they are usually stockers.
I've been trying to tell people that a free flowing exhaust system will make a big difference if the current one is restrictive. I've seen too many people miss out on power because of a restrictive exhaust and bs mufflers. Let the engine breath so it can do what it wants to do.
care to give out some ballpark cam specs on that thing? how high do you have to spin it?
It's huge on paper but completely streetable. it's in the 260's @ 050 and on a 110LSA.
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Sounds like were both on the same page. I have similar times as you and am also pretty damn surprised given the lack of racing parts that I have. When are you going to get out next I think a race between would be interesting and very close.
Not sure, maybe thursday or friday... I got a problem with my nitrous I can't seem to figure out beforehand.
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I've been trying to tell people that a free flowing exhaust system will make a big difference if the current one is restrictive. I've seen too many people miss out on power because of a restrictive exhaust and bs mufflers. Let the engine breath so it can do what it wants to do.
I've always known my single 3" was a huge restriction but it seems people never bother finding out how big of a restriction such things are so I did some testing. This whole car is built using questionable parts and even though it looks pretty nice in pictures the car is literally a huge POS. It's hideous, leaks every fluid imaginable, has a birds nest for wiring, no safety equipment, etc. I built it in my backyard with no garage and only a basic set of hand tools that I can fit in a toolbox in the hatch - Believe me, I'm not bragging about any of this but I do think it's funny that cars with a lot better parts run slower than it.
I was suppose to test dual cutouts on my 3" y pipe into single 4 inch setup. Just to see if it was restrictive. Never did it tho.... sad
There is alot of good power to gain sometimes with open exhaust that has the correct collector length for the combination... thats the key. Just cant stick them anywhere and expect to gain.
I had my exhaust off for a couple of passes last fall. The car ran roughly the same ET. The only advantage for my car was the 40-50 pound weight saving. A good free flowing exhaust will not hamper performance.
Now having a relatively quiet street exhaust and running a race exhaust are two different things. My Magnaflow 4" race mufflers are not street legal but they quiet the exhaust enough that I don't need to wear ear plugs.
Using cutouts is the easiest way to see how restrictive your exhaust is because you're still carrying the full weight of the exhaust system. Running open exhaust may not give the best performance because there's zero back pressure. Many cars still need some back pressure.
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Hardtail Racing
All engine, no power adders! Bests: 9.029@150.45 (at altitude)
Theoretical sea level performance 8.623@157.05
no car needs back pressure, they all need exhaust velocity, you have the two confused.
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Best Engine '11 Thirdgenfest
Best Modified Camaro Thirdgenfest '05, '07, '11 Second place Camaro Modified '06, '08, & '10
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