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Old 05-22-2009, 11:52 PM   #1
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aftermarket brakes?

Just installed the strange drag units on the front. Now i need to know what to do about the brake lines. Anyone done this yet? Should be the same as the wilwood and aerospace set-ups. The calipers use a 3an.


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Old 05-23-2009, 12:07 AM   #2
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Re: aftermarket brakes?

3an to the standard 3/16" fitting is fine.
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Old 05-23-2009, 07:24 AM   #3
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Re: aftermarket brakes?

so your saying cut the stock fitting off the hard line?
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Old 05-23-2009, 09:53 AM   #4
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Re: aftermarket brakes?

no I'm saying buy the braided line that has the fittings on it and buy an adapter fitting to convert from 3an to 3/16" brake line fitting. Call up a local speed shop I'm sure they would stock it or can order it.
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Re: aftermarket brakes?

the adapter fittings are for the following: 3/8-24, 10mmx1.0 for 3an im not sure which our cars have but thats what my plan was too bad everything is closed...
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Re: aftermarket brakes?

i just anny'd up and bout the premade lines from sjmmanufacturing.com for $70 or whatever. popped them right in the car and fit like a glove. i have the strange pro drag brakes front and rear in my car. just finished installing the front ones, matter of fact.
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Old 05-30-2009, 02:08 PM   #7
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Re: aftermarket brakes?

i have a set of braided lines that are 3an on one end and factory metric on the other.
id let the set go for 40 shipped if you are interested.
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Re: aftermarket brakes?

OK, then for you guys running those brakes, is there any real weight savings??? I have "heard" 20# of weight loss, but I just don't see how its possible? Anyone have some hard #'s???
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Re: aftermarket brakes?

i'd say it's at least 20 pounds off the front. I know on a second gen we pulled out almost 80 pounds from a front disc/rear drum combo with strange 4 piston calipers and non-vented rotors.
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Re: aftermarket brakes?

i weighed everything out and it came up to 26# total savings over the stock '88 brakes. this is including all the material removed from the spindles, as well.
i did not weigh how much weight was removed with the rear drag brakes, wish i did.
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Re: aftermarket brakes?

I never weighed my front brakes.

Factory:
Cast caliper
Cast vented rotor/hub

Aerospace brakes:
Aluminum caliper with an aluminum mounting bracket attached to a modified spindle
Aluminum hub
Single steel rotor bolted to the hub.

The aluminum caliper and hub save a lot of weight and using a single disk rotor instead of a vented rotor saved a lot of weight. This is a drag racing only setup. The single disk rotor wouldn't be able to handle the heat generated from stop and go driving on the street with such a heavy car. For street driving, I'd recommend any dual vented rotor system.
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i weighed everything out and it came up to 26# total savings over the stock '88 brakes. this is including all the material removed from the spindles, as well.
i did not weigh how much weight was removed with the rear drag brakes, wish i did.
going from vented rotors and IRON calipers on the rear, with brackets and every single piece weighed, i saved 33 lbs with a drag kit.
i now have a vented rotor on the car which aerospace told me was 4 pounds per side more than a drag kit.

i didnt weigh my front kit. was in a hurry.
pretty sure its going to be close to the 26 pounds mentioned above compared to what i had in the rear.
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