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Old 06-10-2009, 08:51 PM   #1
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accurate bumper support weight??

searched and searched. cant find much.
found one post that the front support was 37lb, and another saying it was 26.
nothing on the rear.
does anyone have an actual weighed amount on the front and rear supports?
id like to leave them in, but weight is weight.
ive got an aluminum front to go in, i just dont know if its worth the trouble if it isnt substantciable.
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Re: accurate bumper support weight??

my front one was right at 25lbs.
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Old 06-11-2009, 01:20 AM   #3
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Re: accurate bumper support weight??

I'd say 20-25 for each at either end of the car. My front is slightly plasma cutted, I got lazy after 2 hours of not much progress. The rear is gone, but mine was rusted and removed during the paint process so I just tossed it. In fact the only rust on the car was that rear bumper jobber. Eventually I"ll just put a chute on there anyways so it'll be more weight back there.
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Old 06-11-2009, 11:50 AM   #4
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Re: accurate bumper support weight??

Did you have to put anything in the rear to support the cover or did you just pull the support out?
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Old 06-11-2009, 12:28 PM   #5
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Did you have to put anything in the rear to support the cover or did you just pull the support out?
youll need some bracketry to suspend the bottom of the bumper. though ive never done it on a 3rd gen, its pretty common for most bumper covers.
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youll need some bracketry to suspend the bottom of the bumper. though ive never done it on a 3rd gen, its pretty common for most bumper covers.
Our rear bumper covers have molded in bottom supports, that attach to the body, not the impact bar. It provides no support for the cover.

I've got a 84 Z rear bumper cover & impact bar in the back yard, off a car & you can see how the impact bar provides zero support.

I did my front end a couple of months ago. The impact bar had nothing to do with supporting the bumper cover.
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Re: accurate bumper support weight??

Well that's pretty cool. Saves alot of work.
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Re: accurate bumper support weight??

I like the tubular bumper supports Andris built for the front end of his Camaro.

Too bad he doesn't sell those.....

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Old 06-12-2009, 08:41 AM   #9
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Our rear bumper covers have molded in bottom supports, that attach to the body, not the impact bar. It provides no support for the cover.

I've got a 84 Z rear bumper cover & impact bar in the back yard, off a car & you can see how the impact bar provides zero support.

I did my front end a couple of months ago. The impact bar had nothing to do with supporting the bumper cover.
thats odd.
maybe the only thing 3rd gen i didnt know!
ive never payed any attention, but on mine there is a huge flat metal rail that the bottom of the cover clips too. i was for sure this was the bottom rail on the bumper support.

so i can remove the crash bar in the rear, and the body will still have a rail along the bottom to fasten the bumper cover back up?
doing this very soon then.
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I like the tubular bumper supports Andris built for the front end of his Camaro.

Too bad he doesn't sell those.....
that would be stupidly easy to fab though...take some 1 1/4" round, bend the ends and weld to 1/8" plate steel that's bolted to the front of the car...no reason to buy one!
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that would be stupidly easy to fab though...take some 1 1/4" round, bend the ends and weld to 1/8" plate steel that's bolted to the front of the car...no reason to buy one!
While I can weld, no problem there....

I have no way to bend the tubing, cut the tubing or any way to determine the forward reaching arms. Camaro owners would have it easy....Reach through the front & get the tube lebgth. Firebird front ends are closed up real good.
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thats odd.
maybe the only thing 3rd gen i didnt know!
ive never payed any attention, but on mine there is a huge flat metal rail that the bottom of the cover clips too. i was for sure this was the bottom rail on the bumper support.

so i can remove the crash bar in the rear, and the body will still have a rail along the bottom to fasten the bumper cover back up?
doing this very soon then.
no the bottom of the bumper is supported by the crash brace you are correct. I have removed it and the bumper hasn't sagged a bit yet, probably going to make some thin aluminum tabs to reconnect the bumper for as for now it hasn't shown any signs of bending.
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Re: accurate bumper support weight??

20 lbs for the rear support, just pulled mine off this past week.
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Old 06-21-2009, 10:05 AM   #14
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20 lbs for the rear support, just pulled mine off this past week.
i got around to getting mine off.
it was 25 pounds even, not including the nuts, bolts, and washers if you want to get anal about it.
going to make a nice lil aluminum bracket to support the bottom, me being paranoid and all.
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Re: accurate bumper support weight??

if you'd like to make me a bracket for the rear and ship it out as well that would be super
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Old 06-21-2009, 04:58 PM   #16
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if you'd like to make me a bracket for the rear and ship it out as well that would be super
ive got a piece of aluminum angle im going to drill holes in and tie to the bumper with factory clips.
then im just going to use some flat stock from the factory mounts in the body and secure it to the angle.
keep it from vibrating or flapping. more to preserve the paint cracking on the bumper cover if it shakes around a bit.
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Re: accurate bumper support weight??

I think I posted this for you before.....


Bed frame angle and a little 1/2 electical conduit spot welded together. The entire thing weighs 2-3 lbs and not only maintains the support for the cover, but can also be pushed on w/o flexing the bumper/trashing the paint.
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Re: accurate bumper support weight??

this offers no structural support other than keeping the bumper cover from vibrating, or flapping at speed. maybe it will help preserve the paint as well.

1/16 x 1 1/2 x 4 aluminum angle 1/8 x 1 1/2 flat stock bent up.
bolts to the stock mounting on the body, and the angle fastens to the cover with the factory hardware.
its very sturdy. wasnt built to psuh the car around, but doubt it weighs a pound.
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