10.29 @ 134 with T56, pump gas, couple pics and video - Third Generation F-Body Message Boards

87_TA · 11-07-2009, 09:13 PM

Got back to track again, as Orrs post mentioned unseasonably warm and a good head wind.. First pass missed 5th tryingto power shift it - bad move, 1.58 60ft, 10.42 @ 120. Second pass in spun hard as I was a little heavy with the clutch release, had to back out and get back it it - 1.67 60ft, 10.34 @ 135 just hitting 5th.. Next pass came out sorta soft 1.62 60ft, rowed through gears into 5th easy, pulled a best of 10.29 @ 135.. Last pass came out harder again, 1.58 60ft, tried to leave in 4th on limiter to see if itwas faster, actually slowed car down to 10.34 @ 134.

Pretty good for a worn out 400 I have been beating for years, oil pressure has been a dismal 15psi at idle for years now, blows some oil at wot, but has been a very reliable street car, always pump gas on a small 26x11 et street, full street trim minus carpet currently. spraying a 150 shot.

10.34 pass
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QWQRK8u3l-A

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ZONES89RS · 11-08-2009, 12:21 AM

Damn, i am wondering how my 26x11.5-16 ET streets will do with 4.30 gears and a 461 big block.

87_TA · 11-08-2009, 07:40 AM

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Damn, i am wondering how my 26x11.5-16 ET streets will do with 4.30 gears and a 461 big block.

LOL, Probably not good, it takes alot of finess with clutch as it is right now, to allow tires to plant, then throw the power to them.

Orr89RocZ · 11-08-2009, 04:44 PM

Car is running pretty good man! Thats impressive! Any plans to update that old 400?

87_TA · 11-08-2009, 08:41 PM

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Car is running pretty good man! Thats impressive! Any plans to update that old 400?

Thank you, I was pretty happy with being car is still very un optimized with the 26" tire.. I believe it will trap 138 with a 28" tire and much better 60ft.. Its fun right now, clutch actually seems OOKAY right now, some light slip on power shifts, just cant heat it up - but that will get me the better 60s to slip it hard under spray. I am planning to go to MIR next Sunday weather permiting, you should go man! You will go 2/10s better for sure, if you break I will trailer it home.

The 400, a freshen up for sure and new clutch, can't afford new heads so not much I can do really.. That block won't take a 434 with out the deck height, anything will require new pistons, crank and rods being I use a 6" rod currently. Probably just bearings, rings and valve job.

Orr89RocZ · 11-08-2009, 09:09 PM

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I am planning to go to MIR next Sunday weather permiting, you should go man! You will go 2/10s better for sure, if you break I will trailer it home.

As in this upcoming 14th? Would like to come down there just abit nervous about tech in.

I was hoping you would get a set of AFR 210s on that motor and see what it would do with the newest heads. That motor would rip, but its doing insanely well as it is. That thing LOVES the spray thats for sure

87_TA · 11-08-2009, 09:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Orr89RocZ

As in this upcoming 14th? Would like to come down there just abit nervous about tech in.

I was hoping you would get a set of AFR 210s on that motor and see what it would do with the newest heads. That motor would rip, but its doing insanely well as it is. That thing LOVES the spray thats for sure

No it would be Sunday the 15th, every year they did not even look at my car with exception of the time they kicked me off for no cage.. You will be good, if they warn you after running 9's tell them you will knock the boost down for next pass, that will buy you 3 passes at worst, at that point it does not matter, you got what you wanted - a 9.79 @ 143!!

I think my cam helps the spray alot, 114 lsa, and AFRs are always effecient on the exhaust side which helps as well.

MIR DUDE! Get ready! Rode trip to easy 9s

I would love AFR 210s!!! Or Dart 227s even, just no funds for that right now, still need new carpet, driveshaft, clutch, 28" tires... No way this year...

Orr89RocZ · 11-09-2009, 10:31 AM

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Originally Posted by 87_TA

No it would be Sunday the 15th, every year they did not even look at my car with exception of the time they kicked me off for no cage.. You will be good, if they warn you after running 9's tell them you will knock the boost down for next pass, that will buy you 3 passes at worst, at that point it does not matter, you got what you wanted - a 9.79 @ 143!!

I think my cam helps the spray alot, 114 lsa, and AFRs are always effecient on the exhaust side which helps as well.

MIR DUDE! Get ready! Rode trip to easy 9s

I would love AFR 210s!!! Or Dart 227s even, just no funds for that right now, still need new carpet, driveshaft, clutch, 28" tires... No way this year...

Just may have to do this. I always wanted to go. What time is the sunday racing? I may have to take that monday off of work but sounds like a good time. Should get my slip there

87_TA · 11-09-2009, 06:50 PM

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Just may have to do this. I always wanted to go. What time is the sunday racing? I may have to take that monday off of work but sounds like a good time. Should get my slip there

Racing starts at 10:00 - 6:00, it takes about 5 hrs to get there.. Last year I left at 4:00am and got there right at 10:00 driving slow, I should make it there faster this year. An example of how much faster you can go, last year first pass, my 82 blew the 350 trans on first pass, slipping in first bad enough to raise 60ft from sub 1.3s to a 1.49 - car went 9.55 @ 143, beat my best time by 1/10 ever with 60ft off by 1.5!! Year prior the 93 picked up a phantom miss in 4th gear only that ended up being a chassis/engine ground, once under that load it would lose ground and begin missing badly, dropping MPH 2 under prp's mph, still beat best ever time from prp missing! Traction is unreal to!!! You will love the way you run there man!

Funny how I can get no love on this board anymore, I know how my friend feels, he has an 87 Monte with an LT1, G-Body boards shun him as well as 4th gen boards.

BlueBeast · 11-09-2009, 07:32 PM

Congrats man thats real good on pump gas and a stick, you should have came to MIR this past weekend and ran the import vs dometic race. You would have done well. Dont worry about those haters man lol. Since building my car and seeing what it takes you have to appreciate anything fast. Oh and how fun is that thing on the street!!

DIGGLER · 11-09-2009, 07:41 PM

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Funny how I can get no love on this board anymore, I know how my friend feels, he has an 87 Monte with an LT1, G-Body boards shun him as well as 4th gen boards.

i feel your pain. lol

87_TA · 11-09-2009, 08:32 PM

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Congrats man thats real good on pump gas and a stick, you should have came to MIR this past weekend and ran the import vs dometic race. You would have done well. Dont worry about those haters man lol. Since building my car and seeing what it takes you have to appreciate anything fast. Oh and how fun is that thing on the street!!

I wanted to go last weekend, but was not sure what all was involved.. I will be there for sure Sunday if weather looks well... It pretty fun, a little much when spraying though, even with ET streets on. you can hit in third, but it gets pretty loose most of time, but ET keep controlable. Thank you!

I am sure you know Diggler being and LT1 guy, it weird - my car is just all parts left overe from my 87, even the ECM is still thirdgen 7730.. I still like thirdgens more than any, but this is what came along as a donor vehicle for my drivetrain after totalling the 87.. I do regret selling my 82 for the Vega I have now.. Still a thirdgen guy, just nothing to represent other than engine, wheels, wiring harness.

Orr89RocZ · 11-09-2009, 08:33 PM

That 406 in its prime was one of the strongest running n/a EFI Factory ECM based combos i've seen in a long time and still is. Its running great times. I'm surprised its not recieving much love

87_TA · 11-09-2009, 10:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Orr89RocZ

That 406 in its prime was one of the strongest running n/a EFI Factory ECM based combos i've seen in a long time and still is. Its running great times. I'm surprised its not recieving much love

Thank you, its lost a step over the years though.. Crazy how fast everyone has become though - my brother in law used to give me flak when I swithed bodies, he would say I went from having a fast third gen to a slow forth gen.

Bluebeast: You planning on being at MIR Sunday? Would like to see that car run, its really impressive! Can see orr trap 144s as well!

Orr89RocZ · 11-10-2009, 12:07 AM

I'm looking free this weekend, we'll have to work out the details on how/when we are going to leave and all that. I wanted to hit up prp saturday but dont think i'll do that if we go to MIR. I dont think i'll change my boost or tune, probly hold 14psi where i left off, and give it hell

??? · 11-12-2009, 02:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Orr89RocZ

That 406 in its prime was one of the strongest running n/a EFI Factory ECM based combos i've seen in a long time and still is. Its running great times. I'm surprised its not recieving much love

a few weeks ago i spent like an hour searching to find out info on his 400. so it gets love, i just didn't post. i should have. i love fast stick shift cars.

and 87_TA. i read where you have to drop the motor to get to the dizzy. have you seen the do away from dizzy thread in the diy section? me and a buddy got it to work on his 93 lt1 z28. we did it to get rid of the opti, but same thing. since your using the 730, it would work the same. we used the 727 and $8D to start with, so the timing settings are sorted out. we have since switched the car to code59 to get ready for turbos. but its a pretty cool swap using cheap northstar parts from the junkyard, and coil packs made his feel smoother than it ever did on the opti spark.