91_B4C_RS

After my engine threw a rod at the nmca lsx shootout here in Indianapolis I decided to go a completely diffeent route. The plan is to keep everything from the engine back the same. That includes th400 trans with brake. Coan 8" 4500 stall . Mosier 9"rearend with 4.11 gears. And full Umi suspension. This setup paired with my sad carbed 388 yielded a best of 1.55x 60ft 11.52x @116.xx mph. Car hooks very well with the 28x10.5s mickeys.

I am going to go step by step with my engine build this will be a extremely budget engine. I will keep a running total rounded up to the nearehist dollar of all the expensive. This will include all the junk I sell that is salvageable off of my old engine which is mostly all savable.

Engine plan.

.030 lq4 with flattop forged pistons with l92/ls3 valve reliefs.
Ls3 heads mill. port matched Vic jr intake with 850 proform carb (existing )
custom big hydraroller cam. Carb friendly ls7 lifters. Stock ls3 offset rockers
msd timing control box with truck coils.
ported oil pump ctsv. Oil pan.

So far I have

Ls3 heads (30miles on them lol) with rockers. $650.00 shipped ls1tech
2004 Lq4 long block with 317 heads. $0.00 (traded my solid roller valvetrain sbc)
Racetech forged. 030 l92/ls3 valve reliefs pistons. Full floating pin. $520.00
Used ls2 full floating rods. $65.00 ebay
Speed pro molly plasma ring set. $105.00 summit racing
Arp. rod bolts. $90.00 ebay
machine work. 030 bore/hone. Rod bushing hone to fit. $160.00 Greys Automotive
Ported oil pump. $0.00 (friend)
Rod and main bearings sealed power $155.00 Autozone
In-Motion Adj. Single roller timing set. $83.00 Reckhart Performance
Valley cover grouments and rear main seal. $25.00 pace performance
CTS-V Oil Pan. Gasket. Pickup Tube. Dipstick. and Dipstick Tube $259.00 GM PARTS Direct
Oil Pump Pickup Tube Gridle. $31.00 BRP Hotrods
Stage 4 port work on heads / intake $875.00. CFM performance Indpls
235*/251* .621"/632" 110 lsa Cam. $415.00. EPS
Ls7 lifters. Cometic. 040 head gaskets. Gm head bolts. $307.00 Texas Speed
Msd 6010 6ls. And edelbrock victor jr intake l92 /ls3. $629.00. SKSPEED
Gm ls3 intake gaskets. $64.00. Summit racing
PRC .650 spring kit. $285.00. Texas Speed
Headbolts and valve covers. $84.00. Ebay.
coils, brackets, harnesses, $100.00. ls1tech
7.325" pushrods . Comp cams. $135.00. Hinson Motorsports
Balancer, gaskets, etc. $170.00. Autozone
Water pump, thermostat, etc. $180.00 Autozone
Crankshaft spacer. $25.00 ls1tech
Crankshaft spacer bolts. $30.00 Jegs
Mini starter. $82.00. Ebay
110amp chrome 1 wire alternator. $58.00. Ebay
1 3/4x3" Stainless steelworks headers. $879.00. Hawks Thirdgen.

Total. Bought so far. -$6461.00

Parts sold off old engine and unneeded lq4 parts.

Dart iron eagle heads. $550.00. Craigslist
CAT Sfi fluid balancer sbc. $50.00. Craigslist
Lq4 317 heads. $170.00 . Ls1tech
Victor jr intake. $100.00. Craigslist
Longtube headers and dual exhaust. $200.00. thirdgen.org
Msd digital 6plus. $200.00. local sale
Sbc roller rockers. $60.00 . Thirdgen.org
Sbc Hei distributor. $50.00. Craigslist
Misc SBC parts $100.00 Craigslist
383 rods and pistons. $80.00. Craigslist

Total sold. +$1560.00

Been doing quite abit of craigslist auto repair this month.

Total side work. + $1030.00


Total -$3869.00 in the hole

91_B4C_RS

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brandoz28

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looking nice man! I'm tuned in for this build. I would love to do something similar

91kbell

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I'm so excited to see this, I'm a decent ways into my ls build now too and also live in indiana. Where in Indy are you located?

xpndbl3

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you should have no problem at all meeting your goal with that motor

91_B4C_RS

i live on the westside of indy. off of rockville road. what kinda setup you running.


Should have engine block rods and pistons back from the machine shop this weekend. grab a set of bearings and a case of beer and get that shortblock together,,,,

InfernalVortex

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If you upgrade the valvesprings let me know, I'm wanting to do a cam upgrade in the spring and the LS3 yellows are what Im after.

mw66nova

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subscribing

91_B4C_RS

I cannot use them. Havent got my cam spec'd. So. Dont knw what i need yet. Check your pm.

Fast 383

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Your 388 Failed? What happened? Sorry to hear that. You were just getting to where you wanted to be.

91_B4C_RS

It happened at the mnca lsx shootout in indy. in october. I was running true street class. On the 20 mile cruise I notice oil pressure as low as 20psi at idle(usually around 40). Went ahead and decided to run it anyway. Didn't want to be disqualified fir popping the hood or stopping. Ran the first pass and noticed some blowy coming out if my cowling hood. Figured my valve cover breather fell off ir something dumb. So I ran my second pass and half way through first gear it felt like I was pulling a trailer. Then all a sudden it go quiet. Looked in the mirror andsaw smoke. Lol it was toast. #7 rod out the pan. Had to trailer it home for the first time ever. Engine had 5 yrs of abuse. Never had heads off or pan. Upon tear down it looked like oil pump pick up feel off. It wasn't welded.











Video 1.85 60ft it felt lazy off the line

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**** don't last forever! Lol

91kbell

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I'll be running a 10 bolt/th350/3600 stall/ls1. Mine will be fuel injected thou, I wish you were going FI too so I could come get some wiring help!!! I'm only about an hour from you. we definantely gotta meet up and shoot the **** sometime.

91_B4C_RS

Sounds like a plan. Im usually at Lucas oil raceway Wednesday nites. Bring ir car up when its done

zacharyhorn

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Subscribing. This is something I want to do in the future. Just unsure on how much all of this costs. In due time. Got a lot of reading to do.

itsjustabird

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very interested. I want to sell my solid roller 383 and go to a lq4 with a 88mm on e85.

Good luck keep us updated!!

91_B4C_RS

got some parts in the mail today!!!

ARP Rod bolts, Sealled power plasma molly rings, sealed power std. rod and main bearings. i now have everything to complete my shortblock minus the oil pan pickup tube etc. i adjusted my running total of parts in first post as well

right now i am out of pocket $196.00 and will have a complete short block with floating wrist pins and forged pistions. now thats a budget shortblock for sure!!!!!

also threw in a pic of the last pass my car made before it blew up...... looks like it might be time for a drag bar got a pretty good amount of twist going on.

91_B4C_RS

Update.

Got block back from machine shop. Spent last last nite in garage cleaning it up. Put a coat of chevy orange on it. Also painted front and rear covers krinkle black.Gonna try to assemble it tommorow.

91_B4C_RS

370 short block complete.

Stock crank ls2 rods. 030 over racetech forged pistons with l92 reliefs.

mw66nova

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nice!

BadBBC

very nice! i am building an lq4 for my truck now!

91_B4C_RS

update.

i have ctsv oil pan. pickup tube. dipstick and tube coming from gm parts direct.com. should be here end of week also have a BRP pickup tube gridle on its way.

prices are updated in OP.

right now im $298 in the hole.

91_B4C_RS

Update.

Installed brp. Oil pump pickup tube gridle. Ctsv oil pan and pickup tube. Rear main seal and cover







Front cover mocked up

91_B4C_RS

Update: had a change of plans. Instead of sending my heads out to bes to get cnc job done. I decided to keep it local and have mike Stark at cfm performance here in indy. Getting heads milled. 035" competition valve job. Bowl intake and exhaust port work. Special attention to the l92/ls3 exhaust port. Www.cfmperformance.com.

Also going to have a cam speced from eps this week

xpndbl3

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smart man, Geoff will take care of you

jbenge

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Mike Stark will do an awesome job on the port work. He has ported several sets of heads for me.

91_B4C_RS

Thats good to hear for sure. I will post up some flow numbers when I get them back. Should have them back late next week hopefully. Gonna be interesting since everyone in the ls world is all about cnc port work. Gonna see how a good ole hand job will stack up

five7kid

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What was your source for the pistons? I've tried searching, can't seem to find anything. I'm not doing as radical a build, but I'm looking for forged 6.0l pistons with the L92 valve reliefs.

freaky

ain't nothing wrong with a hand job ... bahahahaha

mw66nova

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I don't know where the op got his from, but you can get them straight from the manufacture or through a dealer like Texas speed.

91_B4C_RS

http://www.flatlanderracing.com/autotec-chevy-01.html. part number 1000592 .
stock stroke stock rod length stock compression height. Floating wrist pins. Takes 1.5mm 1.5mm 3.0mm rings. Flatlander racing was the cheapest I found them. At 490.00 plus shipping. Got a quote from racetech (founded by je pistions Main guy.) was quoted $800.00 for the pistons. Then he told me to order through flatlander racing lol

five7kid

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Thanks. Those look like a good deal.

1gary

Here is the reasons and logic behind CNC porting:

http://www.enginebuildermag.com/Arti...echnology.aspx

http://www.enginebuildermag.com/Arti...rformance.aspx

91_B4C_RS

Ordered a cam from geoff at eps. He spec'd out 235*/251* @. 050" .621"/.632" on a 110+4. Said it should peak around 7200rpm

Should be here in a week hopefully

mw66nova

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Did he recommend installing that straight up?

91_B4C_RS

Yes it should come out to a 106 intake centerline
. Cam has 4* advance built into it

xpndbl3

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that ls3 headed cam should rock out nicely.

mw66nova

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excellent...i'm thinking of calling eps soon...

91_B4C_RS

Got two options as far as carbs. Go. Option 1 850 proform carb on pump gas. Which I've been told by various people will be more than likely maxed out. Option 2 quick fuel 1050 carb. Setup for e85.

xpndbl3

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sell both and buy a bigger 4150 carb by them. I run the 950, on a 408 ls motor we run a 1050.

91_B4C_RS

The 1050 is 4150 base. Might convert it back to gas

91_B4C_RS

Got a hell of a deal from Sk Speed (MikeFSKSPEED member on ls1tech ).

Msd 6ls 6010. And edelbrock victor jr intake l92 /ls3 for $ 629.00 shipped. Saved almost 100.0

bucks with them over summit racing.





Got headbolts. Cometic. 040 gaskets. And ls7 lifters on their way from Texas speed.

Got cam on the way from eps

Heads getting finished up at cfm performance.

Just playing the waiting game.

Damn bank account took a hit this week lol. Updated my budget in OP.

xpndbl3

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Ya our 1050 is a 4150 carb too, didn't pick up anything with a dominator and conversion plate on the intake.

1badeagle

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I actually just built the same motor as you. 05 LQ4 .030 Mahle L92 pistons, callies rods, stock crank. LS3 heads ported and milled .040". EPS cam with the exact same specs from patrick G. Ill be running the Victor Jr with a holley hp ultra 850. I didnt see, but what tranny are you running? Mine will see alot of street time and has a t56/moser 9" 4.30 gear in it. Sick looking build

91_B4C_RS

Th400 with a brake. 4500 8"converter. 9" 4.11 gears.


Exact seams specs? That's crazy lol the only thing I different in our engines is that you took extra. 005 off heads. What head gaskets you running? What rpm you plan on shifting at?

1badeagle

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Yep same exact specs. Patrick G spec'd it to me. I am running a set of Cometic .040" head gaskets for a ls3 motor. I plan on shifting at 7400+, but it will really just depend where the dyno says the power drops off. Ill be hitting mine with a healthy shot of nitrous too. Its been balanced and plasti gauged when I assembled it as well.

1badeagle

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Actually now that I actually looked at your cars description, we have basically the same car other than the different names. Mines a formula with namual everything on it. Did you keep the powersteering or drop it like me?

91_B4C_RS

Putting an s10 box in before I drop engine in. I am running. 040 cometic as well. Calculator shows 11.25:1 compression. When are you hitting the dyno gonna give me a pretty good idea what I will put down. Mine wont be dynoed.

Also are you having any porting done to the intake? I sent mine out yesterday to be matched to my heads.

1badeagle

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I'm not sure when I will be dynoing the car. I really wanted the mast intake, but I can't justify 1500$ for that. So I'm going to have the victor jr ported, I just don't know anyone good at porting it.

91_B4C_RS

Finally removed factory tpi. harness.