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Old 11-26-2012, 11:03 PM
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What are the pipes on each side of the frame? made your own SFC?

I will try to mimic your design for my th350

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it has jegster bolt in sfc's, that i welded in, and added extra bracing to the tunnel area. i did that years ago. it really stopped the twisting i had going on at the time. the car was into the upper 1.6x range and it was causing the hatch to hit the quarter panel above the passenger side taillight. when i welded them in and triangulated them like this, the twisting back there stopped.
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This is looking good buddy!
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thanks man! got a little more done this morning: the fuel lines are looking much cleaner with this routing...wish i had done this a while ago!

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That is why you see the pieces have been cut, I reused the TQ arm mount that came with my spohn setup, so the driver side is simple horrid to clear exhaust. Spohn did not build those for any clearance.
Thats why I made a trans crossmember that looks like Matt's and then a seperate crossmember for the torque arm. I also hacked up my old Spohn crossmember for the mount and welded it on my new crossmember. I had true dual 2.5" with an X pipe that was over 8" off the ground with the car slightly lowered.
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That fuel line routing does look clean.
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it has jegster bolt in sfc's, that i welded in, and added extra bracing to the tunnel area. i did that years ago. it really stopped the twisting i had going on at the time. the car was into the upper 1.6x range and it was causing the hatch to hit the quarter panel above the passenger side taillight. when i welded them in and triangulated them like this, the twisting back there stopped.
Wow...that's crazy! How did you know it was happening?
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The brand new (at the time) paint was chipping off the top of the quarter and the side of the hatch.
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Thats why I made a trans crossmember that looks like Matt's and then a seperate crossmember for the torque arm. I also hacked up my old Spohn crossmember for the mount and welded it on my new crossmember. I had true dual 2.5" with an X pipe that was over 8" off the ground with the car slightly lowered.
Holy Jesus. I wish I had videos of driving down the road with the spark feat before I made own x member, now I hardly ever have the exhaust scrape, but my car is not lowered. Fortunately my TA th400 setup clears the same exhaust off the camaro, it has 1" set backs and the camaro did not. It was a crazy sight driving down Houston freeways hitting dips here and there at the time. I have 3" duals.
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had a small victory this morning, i was able to prime the engine. i got 38psi of oil pressure just under cranking rpm's, so i'm pretty confident this motor is going to be good.
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Of all the junkyard LS I have got ahold of, one was not perfect, it smokes. Otherwise, it is kind of hard to find a bad one as long as it is from a wrecked vehicle I think. Weather it will spin a bearing or let go is a different story, lol. I have pretty good luck.
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well, it coughed to life tonight...got a text from the wife "that's really loud" since it's a bit late so i didn't let it run for much more than 10 secs or so. it's open headers so i can't really hear much, but so far it sounds ok.
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That is one of the best feelings in the world is starting a fresh new engine.

Congrats!
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Thats awesome matt!!!
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Good stuff!
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video!

it seems to run really well, and i'd imagine that it'll need some carb tweaking, but it seems to be pretty close!
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Sweeeet!
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Sweet, now get it to the track and start making some passes! Lol. I forgot, some tracks close, ours usually don't unless they are resurfacing.
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i missed the track by one and a half weeks. no big deal, i'll hit it up in the spring. for now it gives me opportunity to street drive it and get the tune right ish
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Bangin gears in no time!
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just got a real chance to drive the car. i put about 15 miles on it. WOW, that shifter is BAD TO THE BONE! i did a quick 1-2-3 pull and it had no problem sliding right into 3rd from 2nd. the Tick master makes that monster lvl3 completely livable, maybe even stock-ish feeling. having never driven a stock ls1/t56 car i'm only so certain what the would feel like. man i made the RIGHT choice pulling the trigger on this finally.

the monster does have a little chatter, but i expected that to a point. it's only real prevalent when pulling away from a stop while also going up hill, otherwise it's pretty smooth. most of the non-smoothness has to do with my experience...it's been about 3 years since i've driven a manual trans car with any regularity. but i didn't stall it even once! lol
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i'm curious if removing that spacer will help at the track or if it needs that extra plenum volume on this small a motor.
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no idea, but it drives pretty cleanly overall. will take some tweaking as it's got a stumble when you really lay into it. i'm sure i'll try it with and without and a whole bunch other stuff. i need to get off the car and back on school though, as my semester is coming to an end.
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What shifter is it? Should I ditch my Pro 5.0 for it? I wonder how much of that "easy to shift"ness is just the fresh synchros and trans parts. Mine is super notchy.
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I guess you officially beat me hahaha, although with the 8" of snow we have got in the past month I dont think I could drive my car anyhow.
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Kyle, its a hurst pro billet. Charlie, the car still needs to be reworked inside as the wiring in there is pretty ghetto, lol.
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That great man. The manual is such a blast it isn't even funny. The texralia 700 I used last was very interesting to make it work with being used to the centerforce before it. I stalled it when I first went to drive, but after being on the road a bit I got used to it. Cannot remember if I have driven a car with your clutch though. My 6 puck was just not a steer clutch really. Chatter was there some times but not too bad. Just depends on how I was driving it. It was engage or not engage though. Really hard to find that happy medium. Cannot wait to get my new 91 (new to me, lol) on the road. See just how good a budget cammed 4.8 can run. Kind of hoping it will blow up so I can have a reason to find a 5.3 to replace it...lol.
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i liked the hurst as well. my car has a pro 5.0 with a short stick and it is a bit notchy but works good. not enough of a difference to swap shifters, imo.
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Say Matt, any particular reason you used F car belt drive? I have only used them with EFI swaps this far, except in a 4th gen that was probably not going to allow the alternator to clear with truck accessories.
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When I first did the swap, the car was efi and had a flat hood. No reason to change them now, and I think they look way cleaner than a big goofy truck bracket.
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Ok. Did not know you went efi. The truck setup does not win in looks, but the budget factor is king! Lol
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That's some good stuff Matt and I'm glad to hear your happy with the results so far. Are you still planning on going EFI later?
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thanks craig! i don't have a definitive timeline, but i think it'd be awesome to eventually be EFI with the new holley stuff. right now, i'm just trying to enjoy the car. i'm going to do an oil change tomorrow and drive it some this weekend, and try to take it on it's first trip to macon on tuesday next week.
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Hells yeah!! Road trip lol
Good job man glad to hear its back on the road
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thanks craig! i don't have a definitive timeline, but i think it'd be awesome to eventually be EFI with the new holley stuff. right now, i'm just trying to enjoy the car. i'm going to do an oil change tomorrow and drive it some this weekend, and try to take it on it's first trip to macon on tuesday next week.
You said a mouth full right there bro. You know I feel the same way about my car, I just enjoy driving a quick street car every time I pull it out of the garage!!
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Hells yeah!! Road trip lol
Good job man glad to hear its back on the road
ha, road trip is relative...it's 20 miles one way
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getting closer, got the interior back together. it's still really dirty, and i've found enough holes in the carpet that i could probably justify a new one...ugh....i think i'll go black next time around. i also need to get something to fill the hole where the trans temp gauge was, and get a new shifter plate.



i'll be getting a chance to start getting the carb tune straight tomorrow.
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Get an autometer clock for it.

Ouch... nvm... it's $100...

http://www.summitracing.com/parts/atm-6185/overview/

Id understand if it were encrusted in cubic zirconium... but sheesh. Most are around $50.

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this one's not bad priced, and it matches the gauges better. i'm doing away with all the cobalt series gauges as i've had some reliability issues with them, and going back to the trustworthy sportcomps, lol!

http://www.summitracing.com/parts/atm-3585

i think i'm going to finally put a speedo in the car too, as it hasn't had one in like 5 years, lol!
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I'm wondering if my 91 speedo can work since it is electric. You need to let me know how it works out.
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Damn matt...looking good!!

Making me want to build a streetcar....
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i have a sport comp speedometer with about 7 miles on it, but im not sure i want to sell it.
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this one's not bad priced, and it matches the gauges better. i'm doing away with all the cobalt series gauges as i've had some reliability issues with them, and going back to the trustworthy sportcomps, lol!

http://www.summitracing.com/parts/atm-3585

i think i'm going to finally put a speedo in the car too, as it hasn't had one in like 5 years, lol!
yeah I figure without a radio you would want a clock in there even more if youre driving it more. My cd player doesnt have a clock and its something that really drives me crazy if Im trying to get somewhere on time. Ive been wanting to pop out that old narrowband AFR gauge and put a clock in there for a while.. but priorities are priorities...

To me the great irony is that now that you have a manual with known gear ratios and a known rear end gear you get a speedo. Ive been driving around in mine for years just knowing what RPMs are what mph. Ive been confused since the gear swap though... If I had an auto Id have gotten that SGI-5 box a long time ago.
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well, i drove it today some, trying to get the tune correct-ish, and the stupid slave cylinder connection blew off, leaving me with a rock hard clutch pedal and no way to shift. it did this on a really hard 1-2 shift, which resulted in a lot of grinding, lol. so i'm trying to come up with another solution, as this quick release connection has gotten the best of me for the last time. i want a fitting that screws on!
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Never had issues with mine. I run stock slave and master. Hope you find a quick fix.
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if it was the factory slave, this wouldn't be an issue. this new design looks like the one on the left:

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and it sucks. i bought an "AC Delco" unit, and turns out it was just a reboxed chinese built slave. it seems to work OK, so i'm just going to change the fittings on it. i just can't seem to find any info on what size line the tick master is designed to work with, so i guess i'll call them later.
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Do you have to pull the trans off the engine to get to the slave? What a pain in the butt...
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yes i do, lol.
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I'd rather swap a slave on a ls1 t56 than a converter in any automatic! Lol
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ugh i hate pulling transmissions out of these cars, if that was my car it would sit for 3 months while I thought about pulling it on my back.



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