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HOK Brandywine Kandy
My friend just got a new Z and wants it painted brandywine anyone have this color car. If so post a pic we would like to see it. THANKS
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dont have a pic...but the colour looks awesome1. I knew a chick who had a mustang convertible painted that colour and I love it.
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theres a member on here with a B4C that color.
Its my inspiration.
http://www.outlawperformance.com/my1992b4ccamaro.htm
Its my inspiration.
http://www.outlawperformance.com/my1992b4ccamaro.htm
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oh no.... hmm, ok then. well just to make it easy on you let me explain what brandywine is. brandywine is a paint name for a paint code of the clear dye that is layered over the gold base. use a silver base and the name changes. two different agents in it that separate it from the candy red hok and brandywine. the point to this explanation is to understand that i could have two different cars with the exact same brandywine top coat and base yet they could look completely different on how i layer it and even what clear i use.
i used the brandywine reduced and a gold base mixed with the pagen gold to make the effect i wanted. using the brandy wine i could cover more with less layers allowing me to add different stages without having 12-15 coats on the car. this was very important to get the color i wanted with the quality of the paint and not have it so thick that it would flake or crack driving down the road. another good reason why it took 4 tries to get it right.
there is also a specific candy red dye which is lighter and takes much more layers to get a darker color. many use the orion silver with the candy red dye to get a nice glow candy or a deep candy. i wanted a color very similar to my dark metallic red paint so i had to start with something darker. to do so i had to use the brandywine which is very dark, thinned it out and there you have it. the more layers you use and how much you thin it out changes the color. at it's thickest stage the candy red just won't do it which is why brandywine is so popular for the darker levels. you have to be careful on your base though or you'll turn brown like above.
also you can achieve the same effect through other companies like dupont, ppg, basf and the rest for a fraction less if you or your painter have access. HOK makes it very nice for someone who doesn't like to mix paints to get a desired effect. HOK also makes a very nice product for durability through fading which is important and why it is more then the average way of mixing something off the shelf. i wouldn't recommend mixing unless you've done it before as you could have the chance of running product like i did where the chemicals don't flow well and you get spotting. my first two trials the car ended up separating the metallic and looking like a dalmation because of it.
i used the brandywine reduced and a gold base mixed with the pagen gold to make the effect i wanted. using the brandy wine i could cover more with less layers allowing me to add different stages without having 12-15 coats on the car. this was very important to get the color i wanted with the quality of the paint and not have it so thick that it would flake or crack driving down the road. another good reason why it took 4 tries to get it right.
there is also a specific candy red dye which is lighter and takes much more layers to get a darker color. many use the orion silver with the candy red dye to get a nice glow candy or a deep candy. i wanted a color very similar to my dark metallic red paint so i had to start with something darker. to do so i had to use the brandywine which is very dark, thinned it out and there you have it. the more layers you use and how much you thin it out changes the color. at it's thickest stage the candy red just won't do it which is why brandywine is so popular for the darker levels. you have to be careful on your base though or you'll turn brown like above.
also you can achieve the same effect through other companies like dupont, ppg, basf and the rest for a fraction less if you or your painter have access. HOK makes it very nice for someone who doesn't like to mix paints to get a desired effect. HOK also makes a very nice product for durability through fading which is important and why it is more then the average way of mixing something off the shelf. i wouldn't recommend mixing unless you've done it before as you could have the chance of running product like i did where the chemicals don't flow well and you get spotting. my first two trials the car ended up separating the metallic and looking like a dalmation because of it.
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here is brandywine with zero thinning and a very dark gold base. brandywine doesn't have to look brown.. if that's what your looking for let me know though. i have roughly 100 different cars with various stages of brandywine and similar styles from the basf line.
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depends how much you layer it
depends how much you layer it
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your right, the question was show a picture of brandywine... i guess i should have just plastered more pictures of my car??
that wouldn't have done anything and rather then doing so my point was to explain that there isn't one way to paint brandywine. a similar question would be to ask for a picture of blue camaros. brandywine isn't one exact color. i would have thought it was self-explained through the above but if you are unclear about something then let me know.
that wouldn't have done anything and rather then doing so my point was to explain that there isn't one way to paint brandywine. a similar question would be to ask for a picture of blue camaros. brandywine isn't one exact color. i would have thought it was self-explained through the above but if you are unclear about something then let me know.
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wish I woulda asked my painter about the process he used in mine....I just know its gold base....hmm gotta find his number now
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Originally posted by FlyinLow89
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Originally posted by Camaroguy18
wish I woulda asked my painter about the process he used in mine....I just know its gold base....hmm gotta find his number now
wish I woulda asked my painter about the process he used in mine....I just know its gold base....hmm gotta find his number now
for the most part i used a brown base. wish i would have used white.
i used a mixture of pagen gold with added metallic. wish i had used their micro flake instead.
i used the brandywine dye and diluted it twice what they explained for the lightest chip. that part worked out well for me. technically i could have went with their candy red but i would have had to add another layer or two to get the same color.
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Damn these 4-stage paintjobs are complicated.
Anyway, yeah I thought Brandywine was the brownish color above, which I think looks awesome personally. Like it was called "Kandy Brandywine." And I thought yours was just called "Kandy Apple Red." Learn something new every day.
Anyway, yeah I thought Brandywine was the brownish color above, which I think looks awesome personally. Like it was called "Kandy Brandywine." And I thought yours was just called "Kandy Apple Red." Learn something new every day.
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not a big deal, just wanted everyone to know how things are so they aren't taken when it's time to have something painted. nothing worse then wanting one thing and getting something different. brandywine is typically darker in color. it's only more brown if it's chosen to do so. if you wanted to put any label on brandywine in it's most popular form a black cherry would fit it best or years ago cherry red would suit it.
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Thanks for the replies! Looks like we are going to use silver base
to keep it a little lighter.
to keep it a little lighter.
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In my painting class at school my teacher showed us this film from HOK where the painter showed how to paint with the candy colors....on the film the guy painted a 2nd Gen camaro brandywine. it was amazing to see the steps that go into getting all the stages done correctly. The painter said that the difference between a professional painter and ones that think they are professional is how well they can paint with candy colors.
I learned the biggest mistake ppl make while shooting candy colors is the way they hold the gun while spraying. if you dont hold it perfectly level at all times the candy colors will pool.
Anyway, just felt like sharing because my new knowledge excited me lol
I learned the biggest mistake ppl make while shooting candy colors is the way they hold the gun while spraying. if you dont hold it perfectly level at all times the candy colors will pool.
Anyway, just felt like sharing because my new knowledge excited me lol
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HOK Kandy Apple Brandywine, now that is one bad *** color, saw a 69 RS/SS take best paint at Auto Fair at Lowes Motor Speedway. I am still impressed with that color, o much that I WILL paint something that color! Looked red with a gold base that changed colors alot. I took many pictures, let me see if I can find a few.
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You must watch your overlap also.
You must watch your overlap also.
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Originally posted by NoItsNotForSale
Thanks for the replies! Looks like we are going to use silver base
to keep it a little lighter.
Thanks for the replies! Looks like we are going to use silver base
to keep it a little lighter.
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Originally posted by Nikki's_92TA
In my painting class at school my teacher showed us this film from HOK where the painter showed how to paint with the candy colors....on the film the guy painted a 2nd Gen camaro brandywine. it was amazing to see the steps that go into getting all the stages done correctly. The painter said that the difference between a professional painter and ones that think they are professional is how well they can paint with candy colors.
I learned the biggest mistake ppl make while shooting candy colors is the way they hold the gun while spraying. if you dont hold it perfectly level at all times the candy colors will pool.
Anyway, just felt like sharing because my new knowledge excited me lol
In my painting class at school my teacher showed us this film from HOK where the painter showed how to paint with the candy colors....on the film the guy painted a 2nd Gen camaro brandywine. it was amazing to see the steps that go into getting all the stages done correctly. The painter said that the difference between a professional painter and ones that think they are professional is how well they can paint with candy colors.
I learned the biggest mistake ppl make while shooting candy colors is the way they hold the gun while spraying. if you dont hold it perfectly level at all times the candy colors will pool.
Anyway, just felt like sharing because my new knowledge excited me lol
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Originally posted by Kandied91z
honestly if you want it lighter you should try the candy red with a gold base unless you are looking for more brown tones. you really need to play with it unless there is one of the color chips in the chart that you just absolutely love it will be some work.
honestly if you want it lighter you should try the candy red with a gold base unless you are looking for more brown tones. you really need to play with it unless there is one of the color chips in the chart that you just absolutely love it will be some work.
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I could only get the color out of the guy. I will say those pics are CRAP they do NO justice to the actual color. Abubaca and a few others have seen that car in person and they could tell you it was just amazing.
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Originally posted by LUVmy92
I could only get the color out of the guy. I will say those pics are CRAP they do NO justice to the actual color. Abubaca and a few others have seen that car in person and they could tell you it was just amazing.
I could only get the color out of the guy. I will say those pics are CRAP they do NO justice to the actual color. Abubaca and a few others have seen that car in person and they could tell you it was just amazing.
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Im not sure if its the same paint or not, but I saw a local hotrod that had a color called candy wine, and let me tell you that thing was amazing. The depth and color to the paint was just unreal, it was a VERY pretty color.
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I couldnt appreciate candy fully until I saw it in person....everytime I walk out to my car and the sun is beating on it, I try to capture the transparent glow it gives off, but it looks more like flat red on camera
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you'll need some sort of flake in the paint to make it stand out like the one above... the heaviest of metallics just doesn't seem to show up on the average camera. i'm sure a nice expensive unit might help though.
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yea, the gold basecoat that was used on my car is extremely metallic, but the flakes are subtle at most angles in person let alone a camera
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We used a gold basecoat on ours.... it is PPG pure gold which is pretty much composed of medium fine flake with some clear substrait to hold it on the car.
And no, you can't photograph candy... at least not with a cheap digital like we have.
IMO Gold basecoat is definitely the way to go... with silver, you often get pink flip when the sun hits it.
And no, you can't photograph candy... at least not with a cheap digital like we have.
IMO Gold basecoat is definitely the way to go... with silver, you often get pink flip when the sun hits it.
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IMO Gold basecoat is definitely the way to go... with silver, you often get pink flip when the sun hits it.
IMO Gold basecoat is definitely the way to go... with silver, you often get pink flip when the sun hits it.
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Originally posted by bnoon
White base makes it even more "pink". I had a friend with a candy red color over white and it turned so pink in sunlight that we called him Barbie! Another friend of mine stuck a Mary Kay sticker on his back window once too! LOL!
White base makes it even more "pink". I had a friend with a candy red color over white and it turned so pink in sunlight that we called him Barbie! Another friend of mine stuck a Mary Kay sticker on his back window once too! LOL!
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Originally posted by Kandied91z
i wonder why the painter did that. you would use white as a primer base for the silver base coat but to use it as the primary base color would most definately turn pink... that must have been something.
i wonder why the painter did that. you would use white as a primer base for the silver base coat but to use it as the primary base color would most definately turn pink... that must have been something.
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