The Prom Tuning Guide Book and FAQ: Common Questions and Answers
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The Prom Tuning Guide Book and FAQ: Common Questions and Answers
This is currently under construction and will help to organize and sort the stickies out and to minimize clutter due to growing information and topics.
As you may have noticed the stickies have been getting dropped. The Chapters that are linked will also be replaced and be non hyper text due to the stickies not being updated and are lacking all the latest links that the actual "Guide" has. Thanks for sending/recommending posts and links. Where appropriate they have been included.
later and thanks
The mod squad :-)
CHAPTER 1: WHERE DO I BEGIN? HOW TO PROGRAM PROMS.
CHAPTER 2: SOFTWARE: WHAT YOU NEED TO MODIFY YOUR BIN, DEFINITION FILES AND SOURCE CODE
CHAPTER 3: HARDWARE: ADAPTERS, TEST BENCH, DRIVER BOARDS, EMULATORS
CHAPTER 4: MAF vs. MAP: CONVERSIONS AND DEBATE
CHAPTER 5: TUNING ARTICLES BROKEN DOWN BY ECM
7730:
6870/7302:
165:
749 ($58):
749/730 ($60)
8063/7747/8746 ($4D/$42/$61):
CCC(Computer Controlled Carb)
As you may have noticed the stickies have been getting dropped. The Chapters that are linked will also be replaced and be non hyper text due to the stickies not being updated and are lacking all the latest links that the actual "Guide" has. Thanks for sending/recommending posts and links. Where appropriate they have been included.
later and thanks
The mod squad :-)
CHAPTER 1: WHERE DO I BEGIN? HOW TO PROGRAM PROMS.
- Traxions' Introduction to Prom Burning
- Prom begging how-to
- The not so "black magic" in diy-prom tuning
- Good General Info and Tuning Tips
- TunerPro Super$8D Manual
- Definitions
- What is a Good Tune
- Tuning Start Guide
CHAPTER 2: SOFTWARE: WHAT YOU NEED TO MODIFY YOUR BIN, DEFINITION FILES AND SOURCE CODE
- TunerPro 4.0 RT and Free Available
- TunerCat
- Patch Method Demo
- Moates File Sharing: Copies of BIN's, Hacs and Other Goodies
- VE Master
- AFRTuner v1.0
- Log File Analyzer
- BIN BCC Data
- DIY-EFI Binary Library
CHAPTER 3: HARDWARE: ADAPTERS, TEST BENCH, DRIVER BOARDS, EMULATORS
- ZIF Adapters, eproms and more from Craig Moates
- Craig Moates Website
- AutoPROM: What the Heck is this Thingy?
- The PROMinator
- Romulator
- Xtronics/Transtronics Homepage
- Ostrich
- Test bench...
- Using the Willem for 'SF512 chips
- Injector driver boards
- 1227727 ECM Connectors & Pins
- Re-pin ECM connectors, How To
CHAPTER 4: MAF vs. MAP: CONVERSIONS AND DEBATE
- 165 MAF to 165 MAP using 808 code
- 1986-89 TPI upgrade to 1990-92 TPI ECM (MAF -> MAP/Speed-Density)
- Swapping from MAF to SD made EASIER...
- MAF (165) vs. Speed Density (730)
- How to Convert 1990-1992 F bodies to a 1227749(Syclone) ECM
CHAPTER 5: TUNING ARTICLES BROKEN DOWN BY ECM
7730:
- $8D Spreadsheet Tuning Tools
- P730: Part Throttle Fuel Tuning (no PE)
- P730: BPW and Target AFR, how it is used and calculated at WOT in PE Mode
- Commanded AFR in Open Loop
- Removing Smog pump, AIR: $8D 730 modifications
- How does the Stoichiometric constant affect part throttle BLMs in $8D?
- $8D Acceleration Enrichment Tuning
- P730 - Octane Retard Routine and how to control it better
- MAT recalibration tables
- MAT recalibration tables 2
- CCP and how it affects Highway Mode
- BLM Cell stuck on 4
- Project Super AUJP
- WB on Super AUJP
- MAT PW Compensation and $8D
- Stall Saver SA and $8D
- Idle RPM Limiter 730/AUJP
- o2 Constants
- Cold Start
- $8D Throttle Follower, IAC
- $8D IAC Write Up
- Launch Mode!
- Baro/Da Calculations
- WOT % Change to Air/Fuel Ratio vs. RPM
- $8D Extended VE Table
- Tuning the Timing
- How to fix some of those common idle issues (big cam, surging, stalls, etc.)
- How to run a 2nd cooling fan via the ECM
- Want to burn a PROM for my V6
- $88 bin
- Another pinging question: $88
- 730 $88 code, Grams/Sec
- XDF file for 3.1 V6 and bin
- ECM Help: $88
- Fan control in $88 (90-92 V6 '730)
- 3.1l Prom .bin and Definition
6870/7302:
165:
- The Definitive $32 $32b Tuning Article
- Acceleration Enrichment tuning for MAF $32b $6e
- Lean Pop at low RPMs
- MAF Miscellanea
- MAF Scalar Tables
- Disabling EGR in $6E
- Adding MAF Voltage to Data Stream
- Couple of Quick 165 Tuning Questions?
- List of MAF Links
- PW Stops with Large Injectors, patch
- WB Data logging with $6E
749 ($58):
- $58 Frequently Asked Questions
- 730 almost = 749?
- 749 swap
- $58 EGR Fix
- $58 Wide Band
- 3 Bar Patch
- ALDL patch for Auto Prom fix
749/730 ($60)
8063/7747/8746 ($4D/$42/$61):
- Tuning a new cam, hints/tips
- VE 1 & 2 Tables
- VE 1 & 2 Tables
- VE Tables in General
- VE/PE/BLM Tuning
- TBI Fueling (good read, lots of info)
- A starters step-by-step guide on TBI tuning
- Choke/cold idle stuff
- AE TPS vs. MAP How to Discern
- IAC Logic
- SA Logic
- TCC Logic
- Fueling Logic
- More on Fueling
- '7747 Lean Cruise & Forced Knock Patches
- Getting to Idle OK (SA/VE information)
- Spark Latency in the Ignition Module
- AE tuning, includes EBL
- Proportional Gains & INT Delay
CCC(Computer Controlled Carb)
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04-03-2005, 03:29 PM
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CHAPTER 6: SOURCE CODE: MODIFYING, PATCHING AND TESTING
CHAPTER 8: GRUMPY'S FINAL ANSWERS AND IMPORTANT TOPICS
CHAPTER 9: LAPTOP TO ECM COMMUNICATION AND OPTIONS
For this, let's not take into account what hardware you specifically may already have, but what hardware is available for the different configurations. This allows us to be more general, which is useful for the masses.
Note: This pertains to being able to emulate and datalog at the same time. The outline below is not necessary if you only wish to emulate or datalog independently. This assumes real-time emulation is what is desired.
Note 2: This reply does not take into account all emulation/ALDL hardware. Use the info that is here and the info you have for the hardware of your choice to determine port and configuration compatibility.
The following suggestions should work well with most ALDL and Tuning software, namely:
Tuning:
-----------
TunerCat
TunerPro
Datalogging:
------------------
Datamaster
TunerPro
WinALDL
EASE
FreeScan
etc
-----------------------------------
PC Configuration 1: 1 Serial port, at least 1 PCMCIA slot, no USB ports (this is probably the most common)
One of the better routes to go would be to go with a PCMCIA USB hub. I believe Craig sells one for $20 (the guy sells everything, doesn't he?).
With this, you have a couple of hardware options:
Tuning Hardware Option 1) (Recommended for compatibility simplicity)
- Serial ALDL cable
- PCMCIA USB hub/interface (Moates sells one for $20 - of course - he sells everything, right?)
- Ostrich (USB emulator)
With this setup, you can get up and running with minimal effort.
Tuning Hardware Option 2) (Still recommended, but a little harder to configure)
- Serial ALDL cable
- PCMCIA USB Hub/interface
- Serial to USB converter
- Romulator
This setup is a little harder to configure and may not work in all situations (because of the involvement of a serial to USB converter), but will probably work in 9 out of 10 PC configurations. The idea is to use the serial to USB converter with the Romulator, since it uses a very standard 115kbaud communication baud, which is compatible with all converters. Doing it this way is recommended over using the USB converter for the ALDL cable since 8192 baud is not universally supported by USB converters.
-------------------------------------------
PC Configuration 2: 1 Serial Port, 1 or more USB ports
Tuning Hardware Option 1) (Recommended for compatibility simplicity)
- Serial ALDL cable
- Ostrich (USB emulator)
With this setup, you can get up and running with minimal effort.
Tuning Hardware Option 2) (Still recommended, but a little harder to configure)
- Serial ALDL cable
- Serial to USB converter
- Romulator
Again, a little harder to configure because of the use of the serial to USB converter, but it should work great under most circumstances and with most software.
--------------------------------------
PC Configuration 3: 1 USB port, 1 or more PCMCIA slots, no serial port
Tuning Hardware Option 1) (Recommended for compatibility simplicity)
- USB ALDL Cable (from Moates)
- PCMCIA USB Hub/interface
- Ostrich (USB emulator)
With this setup, you can get up and running with minimal effort.
Tuning Hardware Option 2) (Still recommended, but a little harder to configure)
- USB ALDL Cable
- PCMCIA USB Hub/interface
- Serial to USB converter
- Romulator
Again, a little harder to configure because of the use of the serial to USB converter, but it should work great under most circumstances and with most software.
--------------------------------------
PC Configuration 4: 2 USB ports no serial port
Tuning Hardware Option 1) (Recommended for compatibility simplicity)
- USB ALDL Cables (from Moates)
- Ostrich (USB emulator)
By far the simplest setup
Tuning Hardware Option 2) (Still recommended, but a little harder to configure)
- USB ALDL Cable
- Serial to USB converter
- Romulator
Again, a little harder to configure because of the use of the serial to USB converter, but it should work great under most circumstances and with most software.
(Courtesy of Mangus, author of TunerPro)
- Source code
- I/O Addressing
- Patch Method Demo
- Wide Band O2 Datalogging - Tesing of new code
- 165 MAF to 165 MAP using 808 code
- Project Super AUJP
- Super_AUJP Version 3
- AFRTuner v1.0
- $8D PW limit fix
- Hacking
CHAPTER 7: ASSEMBLY CODE BASICS TUTORIAL
- Assembly, How to
- Assembly Basics: The Checksum Calculation
- Assembly Basics: Addressing Modes
- Assembly Basics: Subroutines
- Source Code for Dummies......Ask Questions Here
CHAPTER 8: GRUMPY'S FINAL ANSWERS AND IMPORTANT TOPICS
- The Original Tuning 101
- Tuning Tips
- Where to begin
- Source code
- About Mileage
- Dynos and about results
- WOT extended
- Recalibrating a MAF, the final answer
- Smog Equipment Delete Final Answer
- Tuning 101A, Final Answer
- Knock sensing- Final Answer
- Grumpy's Timing- Final answer
- A bin for - Final Answer
- Notes-the Final Answer
- Some, Final Answer, notes
- Timing- when's enough- Final Answer
- Initial Firings - The Final Answer
- Sparks- The Final Answer
- IAT/MAT *Humidity* Final Answer
- IAT MATs - Final Answer
- O2 stuff- final answer
- Limp Home Mode-Final Answer
- Quick Diddy about cams-Final Answer
- Radiator Fan Operation-Final Answer
- Mileage and Performance
- Start Routine, Final Answer
CHAPTER 9: LAPTOP TO ECM COMMUNICATION AND OPTIONS
For this, let's not take into account what hardware you specifically may already have, but what hardware is available for the different configurations. This allows us to be more general, which is useful for the masses.
Note: This pertains to being able to emulate and datalog at the same time. The outline below is not necessary if you only wish to emulate or datalog independently. This assumes real-time emulation is what is desired.
Note 2: This reply does not take into account all emulation/ALDL hardware. Use the info that is here and the info you have for the hardware of your choice to determine port and configuration compatibility.
The following suggestions should work well with most ALDL and Tuning software, namely:
Tuning:
-----------
TunerCat
TunerPro
Datalogging:
------------------
Datamaster
TunerPro
WinALDL
EASE
FreeScan
etc
-----------------------------------
PC Configuration 1: 1 Serial port, at least 1 PCMCIA slot, no USB ports (this is probably the most common)
One of the better routes to go would be to go with a PCMCIA USB hub. I believe Craig sells one for $20 (the guy sells everything, doesn't he?).
With this, you have a couple of hardware options:
Tuning Hardware Option 1) (Recommended for compatibility simplicity)
- Serial ALDL cable
- PCMCIA USB hub/interface (Moates sells one for $20 - of course - he sells everything, right?)
- Ostrich (USB emulator)
With this setup, you can get up and running with minimal effort.
Tuning Hardware Option 2) (Still recommended, but a little harder to configure)
- Serial ALDL cable
- PCMCIA USB Hub/interface
- Serial to USB converter
- Romulator
This setup is a little harder to configure and may not work in all situations (because of the involvement of a serial to USB converter), but will probably work in 9 out of 10 PC configurations. The idea is to use the serial to USB converter with the Romulator, since it uses a very standard 115kbaud communication baud, which is compatible with all converters. Doing it this way is recommended over using the USB converter for the ALDL cable since 8192 baud is not universally supported by USB converters.
-------------------------------------------
PC Configuration 2: 1 Serial Port, 1 or more USB ports
Tuning Hardware Option 1) (Recommended for compatibility simplicity)
- Serial ALDL cable
- Ostrich (USB emulator)
With this setup, you can get up and running with minimal effort.
Tuning Hardware Option 2) (Still recommended, but a little harder to configure)
- Serial ALDL cable
- Serial to USB converter
- Romulator
Again, a little harder to configure because of the use of the serial to USB converter, but it should work great under most circumstances and with most software.
--------------------------------------
PC Configuration 3: 1 USB port, 1 or more PCMCIA slots, no serial port
Tuning Hardware Option 1) (Recommended for compatibility simplicity)
- USB ALDL Cable (from Moates)
- PCMCIA USB Hub/interface
- Ostrich (USB emulator)
With this setup, you can get up and running with minimal effort.
Tuning Hardware Option 2) (Still recommended, but a little harder to configure)
- USB ALDL Cable
- PCMCIA USB Hub/interface
- Serial to USB converter
- Romulator
Again, a little harder to configure because of the use of the serial to USB converter, but it should work great under most circumstances and with most software.
--------------------------------------
PC Configuration 4: 2 USB ports no serial port
Tuning Hardware Option 1) (Recommended for compatibility simplicity)
- USB ALDL Cables (from Moates)
- Ostrich (USB emulator)
By far the simplest setup
Tuning Hardware Option 2) (Still recommended, but a little harder to configure)
- USB ALDL Cable
- Serial to USB converter
- Romulator
Again, a little harder to configure because of the use of the serial to USB converter, but it should work great under most circumstances and with most software.
(Courtesy of Mangus, author of TunerPro)
Last edited by RBob; 11-07-2009 at 06:17 PM.
04-20-2005, 01:35 AM
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CHAPTER 10: PROM ID FOR APPLICATIONS(YRS AND MODELS)
CHAPTER 11: MISC. ISSUES
CHAPTER 12: KNOWN ECM HACs
This is a collaborative effort of Bob, Glenn and Jeremy. The basis for this guide came from Tim's original sticky collection (posts and links collected from this board) and has been modified in format and text and updated where appropriate. So much new material has come forth and new topics written that we would again reclutter the board with a mass of stickies. This project has been undertaken to hopefully map out the "prom tuning bible" if you will and organize the information here at thirdgen.org to the best of our abilities.
CHAPTER 11: MISC. ISSUES
- E85 and the EBL FLash
- Linux and the EBL Flash
- VSS solutions for 6 spd swap
- Reasons for Tuning and Vader's Comments on Thermostats and Operating Tempatures
- TBI ECM Upgrade using the '8625 PCM
- TBI ECM Upgrade 6026-7747-8625 Pinouts
- Low Z Injector mod on '749
- Bosch-III Injector Information
CHAPTER 12: KNOWN ECM HACs
This is a collaborative effort of Bob, Glenn and Jeremy. The basis for this guide came from Tim's original sticky collection (posts and links collected from this board) and has been modified in format and text and updated where appropriate. So much new material has come forth and new topics written that we would again reclutter the board with a mass of stickies. This project has been undertaken to hopefully map out the "prom tuning bible" if you will and organize the information here at thirdgen.org to the best of our abilities.
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