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Old 11-18-2011, 07:55 PM
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Duramax Thirdgen Swap

This is not a theoretical or what it this is happening

So the car started off as my highschool car bought it for 4000 back in 97 (looks weird writing the 90s) It had a 305 and auto and I thought it was the fastest thing in the world then I graduate and go into the Airforce my first base it Italy so it stays here in the states and sits and waits

3 years later I get stationed in FL and head off to Iraq a few times and then I figured out what quick is

it got new paint interior wheels and a 383 lt4 with a 6 speed
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well then I sold that motor and trans and the car sat again waiting then I get stationed in NM where I am now and it still had no engine then I came across a few deals first one was a 2006 LQ4 that looks brand new complete with everything then a rolled 2003 2500 HD that I had intentions of parting out and making money for my 6.0 well then I go off to Afganistan for 7 months and while there I got a hair up my A** and well decided to go with the Duramax


WHY

Cost I can get 600 hp and 1300 ft tq for a few thousand
No one has done this yet there are alot of 6.0 swaps no 6.6 diesels
I have a goal of getting my car in a magazine some day
I have a goal to run 9s in the 1/4 mile

This will achieve everything I want


I have done all the research it weighs 140 more than a big block and is roughly the same size Height is the issue and I can make modifications for that if need to like remote mount the turbo


This will be fun it will be alot of work and it will be the first and it started today this will not be overnight I do get busy and I have projects to I do for others all the time and powdercoating but I will be doing as much as I can whenever I can

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here was the last motor at the track It ran a 7.6 1/8th mile in this vid I ran a best of 7.3 at 96 mph bone stock suspension 6 speed

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Cool project. Don't worry about the haters who are gonna start popping up and ragin on YOUR BUILD.
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I cant wait to get it done Nitrous express did a 94 mustang with a duramax and did hot rod drag week they averaged 35 mpg between tracks and ran consistent 9.8s I do care what everyone else thinks It will be fun when done ill polish that durmax turd up and it will look good and shut them up at the track

Dare to be different

AND NO it will not smoke the black smoke is from poor tuning or purposefully dumping extra fuel to make it smoke if a diesel is tuned right it will not smoke but maybe for a second of the line
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A guy did it with a mustang. He took it on Drag Week and it did very well. His was modded to beat the band.. Lots of money in his set up buuut I thought it was cool!
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Originally Posted by lunati397
I cant wait to get it done Nitrous express did a 94 mustang with a duramax and did hot rod drag week they averaged 35 mpg between tracks and ran consistent 9.8s I do care what everyone else thinks It will be fun when done ill polish that durmax turd up and it will look good and shut them up at the track

Dare to be different

AND NO it will not smoke the black smoke is from poor tuning or purposefully dumping extra fuel to make it smoke if a diesel is tuned right it will not smoke but maybe for a second of the line
Yep,Yep.. lottsa good videos of that car on youtube.
Stick to your plan. Love to see it done.
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i would love to see this finished! The added front end weight sucks, but it will still be totally badass. Be sure to properly reinforce the chassis.
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I will be building my own beefy subframe and 6 point cage weight isnt an issue when you have 1300 ft tq
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I got the motor out of the truck separated from huge allison it must have been taken out before because 3 of the bolts were very loose

then onto the camaro

I just wanted to set it in there to see where and what to start with and it actually fit better than I thought it would

1-- need to relocate the huge oil filter housing setup

2-- build K member with clearance for the oil pan the stock one does clear but the steering bar hits the front pan but I will be making a rack and pinion setup with the K member I found a rack that will work that has the same throw as stock after some modification

3-- will need to trim the firewall lip to clear the turbo I think I will run it smooth and get rid of the whole lip and I have an idea with using a blazer/S10 wiper box and relocating it to behind the firewall and get rid of the huge steering box

4-- the turbo exhaust will not work good in its current routing so im thinking of going straight left (from looking at the enginebay) then down and through the outside the frame rail .. dont know exactly yet but will figure out

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there are more pics in the album http://photobucket.com/duramax3rdgen
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Hell yea! I give you props for thinking outside the box. Dunno how well it will fit but have fun. I'll be watching. Hit it with some soap and water first! Make it a little more plesant to work with.
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this reminds me of the ecotech in a thirdgen....both cool swaps in their own respect. subscribed
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Hell yea! I give you props for thinking outside the box. Dunno how well it will fit but have fun. I'll be watching. Hit it with some soap and water first! Make it a little more plesant to work with.
it will get cleaned up and powdercoated just getting an initial test fit to see what has to be addressed
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Very cool idea. I would do that my self if I had enough guts to cut stuff up so that it would ffit. Like you said you will be making a lot of torque so make sure you get a good suspension set up and tires after all horse power and torque doesn't mean crap if you can't get it to the ground
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I personally know the guy who built the Chevy II wagon in the current HotRod mag with a Duramax.He's a super nice guy,PM me for his # if you'd like,I'm sure he would tell you anything he could that would help.
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This will be so awesome when completed!
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Man, someone stole my idea, lol. I was thinking of trying this swap next summer...

Getting the trans to fit will be an interesting experience. That thing is HUGE. Turbo piping will be fun, too.

Whats the total weight of the engine and trans? 1200 lbs or so?
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the engine is 840 fully dressed im going with a 4l80 which is around 180 200 the allison weighs around 350 so im sitting at 1000 engine and trans and will be loose some weight off the motor like no ac

right now just trying to track down some DOM 1.5 tubing to build the K member
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Is there an aftermarket oil pan you could use for it? The oil pan on it looks like it would easily catch something on the ground and ruin your day.
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there is a dry sump pan but its big money I am going to cut and wing the bottom to gain clearance and keep capacity kinda make it like a circle track pan
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That's cool. Good luck with it, it's definitely unique and should turn some heads when done. Should be wicked fast too.
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I found myself rooting for you as I read the thread. Good luck man, I hope you can get it done.

I was fortunate to see the Duramax Chevy II in person on the Power Tour, man that thing sounded great with those turbos whistling. Heads turning to look everywhere he went, by sound alone.
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im fabing some up pipes and manifolds and a new turbo horn if I can place it right it will line up perfect with the SS hood scoop and it will be loud you will hear the turbo like it was outside lol
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Subscribing as well. I'm intrigued as to how this turns out.
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Blake used the 4180 on the ChevyII,and used smaller twin turbos,mostly for clearance reasons.
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the allison is a beast the 4l80 fits and will work good
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couple questions and a little info . which year duramax is that half way through 04 they went to a different motor it has better injectors than the previous years. I like the idea of a duramax they will ppull down a house my father has a 04 2500 hd my uncle works for Gm at the pontiac michigan tech building can't remember the name of the building. but he works with the motors and dynos and wiring harnesses. the duramax motor is a isuzu motor for isuzu box trucks GM owns isuzu so they took the motor and changed teh intake wireing and tune for there trucks so for the oil pan you might want to look to see if any isuzu truck pans are shorter or different.
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04.5 they changed motors i thing the lly i have the LB7 the injectors arent faulty just on the lly they made it easier to change them out the injectors in the motor i got only have 20k on them so they are good Ill look into the oil pans the pan on the duramx is a 2 piece too so i only have to modify the aft pan sump should be easy

GM paired with izuzu and a bit of more info for you toyota bought controlling interest in izuzu therefor buying the rights to the dmax so gm owns the name decided to remake the DMax there are alot of design changes in the newest model to make them more gm and they made the 4.5 dmax that they NEED to start producing same power as a 6.6 30 plus mpg in a half ton and smaller and weighs the same as a 350

COME ON GM MAKE THE DAMN MOTOR
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Id watch out for cooking that hood if your thinking of putting the turbo closer to the top near the ss hood.
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how do you subscribe? i wanna see this thing go i swapped my 305 in my first 91 for a 355 out of a pull truck but thats nothing like this
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had some free time today and went through and cleaned up the motor get all the gunk and grime out pulled all the connectors so everything will get cleaned up some while im waiting on my tubing tomorrow after eating im going to get my front end off and start building the jig

not so ugly with all the crap off of it

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Id watch out for cooking that hood if your thinking of putting the turbo closer to the top near the ss hood.
there will be heat shielding on the hood and I was going to get a blanket for the turbo
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id keep it as low as possible even with those items...just incase
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Old 11-23-2011, 09:17 PM
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Subscribed!! Cant wait to see the progress! I knew it was just a matter of time before someone did this.
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hell ya man, i say go for it, it would be sweet! i had a buddy that tryed putting a 12 valve cummins out of a 2nd gen dodge into a 4th gen camaro, it wouldnt fit without major modifications. So they just gave up, wish they wouldve done it, woulda been sweet
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Old 11-25-2011, 12:01 PM
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there is a 70-72 monty on youtube with a cummins swap
and a 84 vette with a chevy/volvo diesel
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Old 11-25-2011, 07:25 PM
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got the front cross member off start building the jig tomorrow but I have to put new brakes on the wifes car and a wheel bearing on a friend bmw but after that I should have time

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Awesome project. Subscribed.
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Old 11-26-2011, 03:47 PM
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awesome build you got going, cant wait to see it done. great job
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this is gonna be saweeeeeeeet
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Old 11-26-2011, 08:18 PM
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didnt do much today it was windy as hell and cold out but decided to strip some of the paint in the engine bay have to wait till monday to get some steel for the jig and some sheet metal to start patching and smoothing firewall

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sweett! build. cant wait to see this.
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Old 11-26-2011, 09:10 PM
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whare you using to strip off the paint?
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Old 11-26-2011, 09:22 PM
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whare you using to strip off the paint?
just a wire wheel and grinder for now then when I got just about all of it I can break out the sand blaster for all the hard to get nooks and crannys
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