1987 IROC-Z not considered collectable?
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1987 IROC-Z not considered collectable?
Here in Ohio, to get collector plates the car needs to be found in the NADA Guide (www.nadaguides.com) as a collector car.
Anyways, it looks like the only models of the 1987 Camaro that appear in the collector cars list are the convertible models. My friend that has an 88 IROC-Z was able to get his collector plates because his is in there.
Does anyone know why they wouldn't consider an 87 IROC as a collector vehicle? I tried e-mailing them and asking, but no response of course.
Sorry if this is the wrong place to post. Wasn't sure where else to post it
Anyways, it looks like the only models of the 1987 Camaro that appear in the collector cars list are the convertible models. My friend that has an 88 IROC-Z was able to get his collector plates because his is in there.
Does anyone know why they wouldn't consider an 87 IROC as a collector vehicle? I tried e-mailing them and asking, but no response of course.
Sorry if this is the wrong place to post. Wasn't sure where else to post it
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Re: 1987 IROC-Z not considered collectable?
Here in Ohio, to get collector plates the car needs to be found in the NADA Guide (www.nadaguides.com) as a collector car.
Anyways, it looks like the only models of the 1987 Camaro that appear in the collector cars list are the convertible models. My friend that has an 88 IROC-Z was able to get his collector plates because his is in there.
Does anyone know why they wouldn't consider an 87 IROC as a collector vehicle? I tried e-mailing them and asking, but no response of course.
Sorry if this is the wrong place to post. Wasn't sure where else to post it
Anyways, it looks like the only models of the 1987 Camaro that appear in the collector cars list are the convertible models. My friend that has an 88 IROC-Z was able to get his collector plates because his is in there.
Does anyone know why they wouldn't consider an 87 IROC as a collector vehicle? I tried e-mailing them and asking, but no response of course.
Sorry if this is the wrong place to post. Wasn't sure where else to post it
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Like I said in my OP, it just needs to be listed in the NADA Guide and my friend's 88 IROC is considered collector and got the plates.
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The NADA guide lists the 86 and 88 coupe IROC-Z but not the 87. It's not that the car isn't collectible, they just don't list it. I will contact them with reasons why the car is more collectible than the 88 or 86. We'll see what happens with that.
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I hope you have more luck than me! Thanks for the reply and let me know if you hear anything back. Skipping the dreaded E-check in my county would be great. I could then not worry about putting a carbed bbc in my babe
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Collector/Classic plates are designed to be used on collector or classic vehicles. Age alone does not constitute this. If you are looking to just avoid emissions testing on a daily driver, you will find that this is not the best route. I believe all states have guidelines for the use of collector/classic plates. A daily driver is not one of those uses. Also, the big block, carbed motor needs to run clean. It's only the responsible way to build a motor.
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I was so excited when my car turned 25 and I would be able to get a Classic/Collector tag for it. Too bad the only tag here is S Carolina is an Antique tag meant for cars in parades or displays.
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Collector/Classic plates are designed to be used on collector or classic vehicles. Age alone does not constitute this. If you are looking to just avoid emissions testing on a daily driver, you will find that this is not the best route. I believe all states have guidelines for the use of collector/classic plates. A daily driver is not one of those uses. Also, the big block, carbed motor needs to run clean. It's only the responsible way to build a motor.
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Sorry bout your luck there tekky, it doesn't seem to make much sense does it? Tell ya though: Seeing COLLECTOR on the back of my car makes it look just a little bit hotter
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I know this. That is why my camaro is in the garage and my Tahoe is the daily driver. Don't think of my intentions as trying to escape emissions testing because I think my car won't pass it. I simply hate having to get the E-check every two years. I am not sure if you are familiar with the Ohio E-check, but they don't like carbed motors in cars that were originally fuel injected, or any other kind of major modification such as an engine swap or even exhaust, even it is is running clean. If they look under the hood and the car is obviously not as is from factory, they can fail you.
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Full list: Cuyahoga, Geauga, Lake, Lorain, Medina, Portage, and Summit.
If you are in one of these counties, the BMV will require you to have an E-check every two years if your vehicle is less than 25 years old. Odd year cars are tested in odd years, even year cars in even years.
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...I am not sure if you are familiar with the Ohio E-check, but they don't like carbed motors in cars that were originally fuel injected, or any other kind of major modification such as an engine swap or even exhaust, even it is is running clean. If they look under the hood and the car is obviously not as is from factory, they can fail you.
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Collector/Classic plates are designed to be used on collector or classic vehicles. Age alone does not constitute this. If you are looking to just avoid emissions testing on a daily driver, you will find that this is not the best route. I believe all states have guidelines for the use of collector/classic plates. A daily driver is not one of those uses. Also, the big block, carbed motor needs to run clean. It's only the responsible way to build a motor.
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The criteria that you mention is in reference to the NADA guide? If so, I believe there is just an oversite. They were contacted years ago by somebody here regarding convertibles and they adjusted it. I sent them a good deal of information to prove the 87 as more than worthy of being a true collectible, even moreso than most other 3rd gens. The 87 year was full of firsts and lasts. The 1st year for leather, 350, Bose, option packages, etc. The last year for Norwood and multiple models in the Camaro lineup. It appears that for some reason, the 87s are in more demand than other years. Not sure why, but it seems to be my preference for a 350 model as I'm not too keen on the 88-90 rims.
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The criteria that you mention is in reference to the NADA guide? If so, I believe there is just an oversite. They were contacted years ago by somebody here regarding convertibles and they adjusted it. I sent them a good deal of information to prove the 87 as more than worthy of being a true collectible, even moreso than most other 3rd gens. The 87 year was full of firsts and lasts. The 1st year for leather, 350, Bose, option packages, etc. The last year for Norwood and multiple models in the Camaro lineup. It appears that for some reason, the 87s are in more demand than other years. Not sure why, but it seems to be my preference for a 350 model as I'm not too keen on the 88-90 rims.
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E-check is only required in seven counties in Ohio. Cuyahoga being one of them (my county).
Full list: Cuyahoga, Geauga, Lake, Lorain, Medina, Portage, and Summit.
If you are in one of these counties, the BMV will require you to have an E-check every two years if your vehicle is less than 25 years old. Odd year cars are tested in odd years, even year cars in even years.
Full list: Cuyahoga, Geauga, Lake, Lorain, Medina, Portage, and Summit.
If you are in one of these counties, the BMV will require you to have an E-check every two years if your vehicle is less than 25 years old. Odd year cars are tested in odd years, even year cars in even years.
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In Illinois the Car has to be 25 yrs old to get antique or classic lic. My 85 needs one more year.
You are supposed to drive it only to shows, cruises, and for sevice. Some push the rules a lot more. Some people have been nailed by the police when cought using the car as a daily driver. They are real cheap here. As for as smog, 95 and below don't get tested.
You are supposed to drive it only to shows, cruises, and for sevice. Some push the rules a lot more. Some people have been nailed by the police when cought using the car as a daily driver. They are real cheap here. As for as smog, 95 and below don't get tested.
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If purchased from Medina and it had plates, it was tested. Either way though, doesn't matter for you. Only needs to have E-check if registered in one of those seven counties.
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In Ohio any car 25 years or older you can get Historical plates (last check only 26 bucks) But the plates are cheap cause you can only drive on Sundays or for car shows is the Law.... I see many In the Toledo area breaking the law and driving during the week with theese plates.... The cops here in Toledo don't care...... Collecter plates must be different than Historical?
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In Ohio any car 25 years or older you can get Historical plates (last check only 26 bucks) But the plates are cheap cause you can only drive on Sundays or for car shows is the Law.... I see many In the Toledo area breaking the law and driving during the week with theese plates.... The cops here in Toledo don't care...... Collecter plates must be different than Historical?
http://www.bmv.ohio.gov/vehicle_regi...historical.htm
Collector plates can be used for transportation somewhat. Historical is what you said, only going to car shows and whatnot.
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The criteria that you mention is in reference to the NADA guide? If so, I believe there is just an oversite. They were contacted years ago by somebody here regarding convertibles and they adjusted it. I sent them a good deal of information to prove the 87 as more than worthy of being a true collectible, even moreso than most other 3rd gens. The 87 year was full of firsts and lasts. The 1st year for leather, 350, Bose, option packages, etc. The last year for Norwood and multiple models in the Camaro lineup. It appears that for some reason, the 87s are in more demand than other years. Not sure why, but it seems to be my preference for a 350 model as I'm not too keen on the 88-90 rims.
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In Ohio any car 25 years or older you can get Historical plates (last check only 26 bucks) But the plates are cheap cause you can only drive on Sundays or for car shows is the Law.... I see many In the Toledo area breaking the law and driving during the week with theese plates.... The cops here in Toledo don't care...... Collecter plates must be different than Historical?
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I never heard of NADA having a guideline for getting historical or collector plates on a vehicle. I live in Toledo also, and I just got historical plates for my 82 TA last year. All the requirements are is that the car is 25 years old. Nobody did any kind of check, other than me bringing in the title. Nobody did a check as far as having another vehicle either for a daily driver. Of course I don't drive this car daily anyway. I too have seen people driving with historical plates here...cops don't care. I've been wanting to get year specific plates but they have to have the tag from the plate year. Ohio plates looked the same from like 81-84. I think mine has a 83 or 84 tag and they told me I couldn't use it. go figure
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In Ohio any car 25 years or older you can get Historical plates (last check only 26 bucks) But the plates are cheap cause you can only drive on Sundays or for car shows is the Law.... I see many In the Toledo area breaking the law and driving during the week with theese plates.... The cops here in Toledo don't care...... Collecter plates must be different than Historical?
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and the fees for collector and hobbyist in wisconsin are now $200, one-time fee. the rule about having to own another car in your name is bogus. i work for a dealership and drive a demo as my daily driver. why should i have to OWN my daily driver? i sold my reliable buick after buying the camaro and put my name on with my dad on his 93 GMC pickup that he bought.
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In Michigan, we have "Historical" Plates which have to be renewed every 10 years or so. IT is kind of neat in its own way. The cars are to be driven primarily for car shows, cruises, to get work done on it, whatever. The cost is $35 for 10 years.
The other plate is "Authentic Plates" Which is really neat as you have to FIND your plates to use, they have to be original MI plates and unused. They have to be from the same year as your car, so if you have a 1967 you need to find original plates from 1967. I found some original '67 plates for $30, and then plates you pay MI a one time $30 IIRC, and they are assigned to the car FOREVER, or until you sell the car, whichever comes first. The down side is you have to get BOTH plates, you do not need to put both on your car, but if there was two plates issued for a given year, you have to get BOTH in order to use them. I think I had to go to the Secretary Of State (MI version of DMV) and show them my plates...
I want to think at 25 years old is when you can get the plates in MI.
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The other plate is "Authentic Plates" Which is really neat as you have to FIND your plates to use, they have to be original MI plates and unused. They have to be from the same year as your car, so if you have a 1967 you need to find original plates from 1967. I found some original '67 plates for $30, and then plates you pay MI a one time $30 IIRC, and they are assigned to the car FOREVER, or until you sell the car, whichever comes first. The down side is you have to get BOTH plates, you do not need to put both on your car, but if there was two plates issued for a given year, you have to get BOTH in order to use them. I think I had to go to the Secretary Of State (MI version of DMV) and show them my plates...
I want to think at 25 years old is when you can get the plates in MI.
John
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for a collector or hobbyist plate in wisconsin it is illegal to drive such a plated vehicel during the month of january, the vehicle must be 20 years old or older, the owner must have a second regularly plated vehicle as a driver. to qualify as a collector plated vehicle the vehicle must be unmodified. hobbyist plated vehicles the rules above apply except they can be modified. one emission test prior to recieving collector/hobbyist plates must be obtained.
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Wisconsin requires emissions inspections for cars and trucks that:
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the only good thing about living in the people's republic of wisconsin is the old car regs.
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Wisconsin requires emissions inspections for cars and trucks that:
- are powered by gasoline or alternative fuels (but not diesel fuel); and
- are model year 1996 or newer; and
- have a manufacturer's gross vehicle weight rating (GVWR) under 8,501 pounds; and
- are customarily kept in one of the following seven southeastern Wisconsin counties:
- Kenosha
- Milwaukee
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- Racine
- Sheboygan
- Washington
- Waukesha
- are powered by diesel fuel; and/or
- have a GVWR between 8,501 pounds and 14,000 pounds
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the only good thing about living in the people's republic of wisconsin is the old car regs.
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HAHA! I must have sent them one too many e-mails because look at all the cars they added for 1987:
http://www.nadaguides.com/default.as...-1&y=1987&da-1
Link should work. But previously they only had the Camaro Convertible and IROC Convertible. Now look at all of those Camaros
http://www.nadaguides.com/default.as...-1&y=1987&da-1
Link should work. But previously they only had the Camaro Convertible and IROC Convertible. Now look at all of those Camaros
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