cica55

just wondering , preferably with everything on it (all the accessories , etc... ) no trans.

please state if it's with accessories or without. I'm wondering if it's possible to get it into my basement , but it would have to be carried in

hey , don't say it's impossible, NOTHING is impossible with enough idiots willing to try

Enkil

Hmm. I'm not sure how heavy it is exactly, but they make soemwhat large equipment to lift motors out of them. I don't believe they're too heavy, but it would be incredibly awkward to try to carry it downstairs into a basement. NOt to mention dangerous. heh

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ede

i think i read in the 500 to 550 pound range, bare block is around 150.

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Greg

It would take atleast four strong guys to safely carry that thing. There's no way your getting out of the car without a lift

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AlkyIROC

I would have guessed in the 500-600 pound range depending on what accessories are on it. Starter, water pump and alternator are the heaviest accessories. Would the exhaust mainfolds be included? Carb and distributor don't weigh much. Power steering pump isn't really an accessory that's included on an engine since it's easier to unbolt it than it is to drain and disconnect.

I guess there could be a few examples of how an engine can be classified.

Complete: One that has been pulled from another vehicle and has just about everything installed and ready to go.
Long block: Assembled engine with intake, distributor and possibly a carb and starter but nothing else.
Short block: Assembled bottom end. No heads, intake etc.

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87RS402

A 500 caddilac weighs in at 595 complete. Subtract 75 lbs for a SBC and add ( I think ) 65 for a BBC

D_Amlee

To prevent from killing/maiming too many of your beer-filled friends when the block takes to rolling down the basement stairs, I would suggest that you take off every accessory that you easily can remove before beginning your epic journey to the basement.

Alternator: 11 pounds
Starter: 15? pounds
Cast iron exhaust pipes: (?) but easy to remove
5 quarts of oil: 12-14 (?) pounds

It all adds up quick.
You may also consider building a wooden frame to hold the engine, so people trying to carry it will be able to hold on to the frame and won't have to try to find a way to grip oily metal while negotiating a narrow stairwell.

ede

if you're wanting to move it to your basement rent a hand truck and just ease it down the stairs.

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ede

along the lines of what dale said, get your wife or girlfriend to tape this adventure so we can see you national tv someday.

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87kevroc

“Next, we’ll see what happens when 4 men carrying an engine try to get through a doorway and down some stairs. Don’t touch that remote. You won’t want to miss it!”

cica55

lmao

yeah yeah yeah , I'll wear a white t-shirt that says "thirdgen.org" , so even in my death I will support the site on national TV lol

well so far it looks like I'll pull the engine with a lift , set it on the engine stand outside , take off whatever I can , so any accessory , headers and probably a carb too. then we'll see if it's possible to get it down into the basement, in the case of at least 50% of us surviving the first attempt and failing at it , we'll remove the heads and try again until no one is left standing (either from injuries or prolonged celebration after completing the task )

87kevroc

cica,

A greasy, dirty engine will be hard to go a hold on. At least use ede’s suggestion and do the hand truck, that way you could strap the engine to the truck and carry the engine on it where needed.

AlkyIROC

So I'm wondering why you want to move it into the basement? Long term storage or a place to rebuild it? If you rebuild it but need to strip it down to get it down there, how are you planning on getting it out again once it's back together?

Kind of like building a boat in the basement then having to cut out a wall to get it out.

stingerssx

Ditto Stephen.

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