Go Back   Third Generation F-Body Message Boards > Tech Boards > Power Adder
Sign in using an external account
Register Forgot Password?

Power Adder Getting a Supercharger or Turbocharger? Thinking about using Nitrous? All forced induction and N2O topics discussed here.

Welcome to ThirdGen.org!
Welcome to ThirdGen.org.

You are currently viewing our forum as a guest, which gives you limited access to view most discussions and access our other features. By joining our community, at no cost, you will have access to post topics, communicate privately with other members (PM), respond to polls, upload content and access many other special features. Registration is free, fast and simple, join the ThirdGen.org community today!


Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Old 03-02-2004, 01:25 AM   #1
Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2003
Location: Nogales Sonora, Mexico
Posts: 127
Car: Firebird 89' and Formula 87
Engine: 2.8 l and 350 v8
Transmission: 2.8 Manual 5 speed and 5.7 manual 5 speed

Classifieds Rating: (0)
3ld diesel turbo

I just got a holset 3ld turbo, I got it for five bucks, does anyone know if I can use it on my 350 carburator engine, the turbo doesn't have a waste gate, so im planing to put it with out the wastegate, would this be posible without damage to the engine.


Thanks.
PILU is offline vBGarage Page   Reply With Quote
Old 03-02-2004, 05:01 AM   #2
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2002
Location: Sharonville OH
Posts: 798
Car: 98 Z28 vert
Engine: LS1
Transmission: automagic
Axle/Gears: 2.73 - boo racing yay MPG

Classifieds Rating: (0)
If you got it for 5 bucks the person you got it form either - didn't care about it, didn't know what it was or knew it was broken. And start reading up and and use the search button. On a gas engine using a turbo with out a waste gate is a bad idea - things go boom.
Cronic3rd is offline vBGarage Page   Reply With Quote
Old 03-03-2004, 08:25 PM   #3
Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2003
Posts: 243
Car: 91 S10

Classifieds Rating: (0)
the wastegate is what basically controls/limits your boost, so with out one you'll run WAY too much boost, but you can use an external WG, and on a carb you'll need it rebuilt for "blow through" those 2 things are a couple hundred each, then you need turbo headers/manifolds, intake piping, and intercooler is strongly recomended... you can do it, but you'll be into it a grand if not 2 grand. and like the cronic3rd said, good chance the turbo doesn't work
stevedave454 is offline vBGarage Page   Reply With Quote
Old 03-03-2004, 09:01 PM   #4
TGO Supporter
 
B4Ctom1's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2001
Location: Cheyenne, Wyoming
Posts: 4,877
Car: 1992 B4C 1LE
Engine: HSR on a ZZ4 clone
Transmission: built 700R4 Axle/Gears: stock w/later torsen posi ······································· Car: 91 Z28 street legal drag Engine: 352 dstrk 400 w/P1sc Transmission: TH350 w/brake
Axle/Gears: Currie 9+ w/4.11 limited slip

Classifieds Rating: (0)
Send a message via MSN to B4Ctom1 Send a message via Yahoo to B4Ctom1
its a 3ld or does the tag say GM-3?
__________________

WWW.OUTLAWPERFORMANCE.COM
B4Ctom1 is offline vBGarage Page   Reply With Quote
Old 03-04-2004, 06:13 AM   #5
Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2003
Location: Nogales Sonora, Mexico
Posts: 127
Car: Firebird 89' and Formula 87
Engine: 2.8 l and 350 v8
Transmission: 2.8 Manual 5 speed and 5.7 manual 5 speed

Classifieds Rating: (0)
Quote:
its a 3ld or does the tag say GM-3?
the tag says holset type 3ld..





Quote:
the wastegate is what basically controls/limits your boost, so with out one you'll run WAY too much boost, but you can use an external WG, and on a carb you'll need it rebuilt for "blow through" those 2 things are a couple hundred each, then you need turbo headers/manifolds, intake piping, and intercooler is strongly recomended... you can do it, but you'll be into it a grand if not 2 grand. and like the cronic3rd said, good chance the turbo doesn't work
yea the turbo isn't in best shape, the compresor wheel is a little mest-up. Yeah I didn't think i could use it , i just got it because it was really cheap.


anyway, my firebird runs pretty good, it is a 350 5 speed, with alot of racing stuff, but i want to make it fly, I guees i'll have to gather some money to put a decent turbo in.


sorry about the spelling english is my second lenguage
PILU is offline vBGarage Page   Reply With Quote
Old 03-04-2004, 07:37 AM   #6
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2000
Location: the garage
Posts: 1,609
Car: 84 SVO
Engine: Volvo headed 2.3T
Transmission: WCT5
Axle/Gears: 8.8" 3.73

Classifieds Rating: (0)
Send a message via ICQ to SATURN5
Quote:
Originally posted by PILU
the tag says holset type 3ld..







yea the turbo isn't in best shape, the compresor wheel is a little mest-up. Yeah I didn't think i could use it , i just got it because it was really cheap.


anyway, my firebird runs pretty good, it is a 350 5 speed, with alot of racing stuff, but i want to make it fly, I guees i'll have to gather some money to put a decent turbo in.


sorry about the spelling english is my second lenguage

No worries.... Your spelling is better than some for whom English is their "native" language..


BW
__________________
Bob
84 SVO B234F 16V Volvo head conversion, RPE custom intake, header, FMIC, 38MM BOV, RPE modified diamond pistons, Crower rods, HE351 Holset, 44MM WG/dump, A1000/sumped tank, -8AN lines, T-tops
96 Mark VIII "The overstuffed Cobra" Black/grey, drilled/slotted brakes, FRPP built 4r70W, FRPP converter
RAW Performance Engineering
SATURN5 is offline vBGarage Page   Reply With Quote
Old 03-04-2004, 02:25 PM   #7
Supreme Member
 
83 Crossfire TA's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2001
Location: DC Metro Area
Posts: 6,570
Car: 87TA 87Formula 97TA 04CumminsRam

Classifieds Rating: (2)
3ld doesn't really tell you much… it's just a series name, somewhat like saying it's a T3 or a T04… it could still be big or small…

Also, I believe that there are 2 3ld's, one that was used on a bunch of marine and truck apps from about '64-77, and another one that was used on small marine applications around '95. Both are on the smallish side, most would top out around 250-300hp or so, but there is one that appears to be good for about 450-500hp. How about a little more info? Even something like inducer size would give you some idea of what power level it would work for. Also, there is usually a 2 digit marking on the turbine side that will tell you how big that housing is (I suspect LARGE, since I don't think that any of the applications were wastegated on diesels, both things that would imply a biger turbine housing).
83 Crossfire TA is offline vBGarage Page   Reply With Quote
Old 03-04-2004, 08:42 PM   #8
Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2003
Location: Nogales Sonora, Mexico
Posts: 127
Car: Firebird 89' and Formula 87
Engine: 2.8 l and 350 v8
Transmission: 2.8 Manual 5 speed and 5.7 manual 5 speed

Classifieds Rating: (0)
the only two digit number that i found is f. 32.

The assy number is 53925 / 14.


I think the inducer size is 3 inches.


Doyou think is a good idea to fix this turbo and get an external wastegate?
PILU is offline vBGarage Page   Reply With Quote
Old 03-05-2004, 12:44 AM   #9
Supreme Member
 
83 Crossfire TA's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2001
Location: DC Metro Area
Posts: 6,570
Car: 87TA 87Formula 97TA 04CumminsRam

Classifieds Rating: (2)
If the inducer size is actually 3" then that is a pretty good sized turbo, but doesn't match anything that I've described so far. Barring more information (the assembly number doesn't seem to translate to anything that I can find) I'd only be guessing, but I doubt that it would be worth putting any effort into. I suspect that the compressor size is roughly similar in flow to a T3 (you'd need 2 on your 350) and the turbine side is too big to be useful on most gas engines.
83 Crossfire TA is offline vBGarage Page   Reply With Quote
Old 03-05-2004, 12:56 AM   #10
Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2003
Location: Nogales Sonora, Mexico
Posts: 127
Car: Firebird 89' and Formula 87
Engine: 2.8 l and 350 v8
Transmission: 2.8 Manual 5 speed and 5.7 manual 5 speed

Classifieds Rating: (0)
thanks, I guest i better gather some money and buy a decent turbo.
PILU is offline vBGarage Page   Reply With Quote
Old 03-05-2004, 12:56 AM
ThirdGen
1992 Camaro




Paid Advertisement


Reply

Go Back   Third Generation F-Body Message Boards > Tech Boards > Power Adder

Tags
3ld, 3rd, applications, camaro, diesel, fbody, gas, gen, he351, holset, marine, run, turbo, turbocharger, wastegate
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off

 


1982 Camaro '82 || 1983 Camaro '83 || 1984 Camaro '84 || 1985 Camaro '85 || 1986 Camaro '86 || 1987 Camaro '87 || 1988 Camaro '88 || 1989 Camaro '89 || 1990 Camaro '90 || 1991 Camaro '91 || 1992 Camaro '92


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 05:29 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.7.5
Copyright ©2000 - 2012, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Search Engine Friendly URLs by vBSEO 3.5.2
All content copyright © 1997 - 2012 ThirdGen.org. All rights reserved. No part of this website may be reproduced without the expressed, documented, and written consent of ThirdGen.org's Administrators.

Emails & Contact Details