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I have basically every part I need.. next week I take it to my friends shop for the install/fabrication etc.. its going to run twin Master Power T-70 p-trim turbos, blowing through a CSU 850 carb, Snow Perf. water/methanol stage 2 kit , pro-topline alum. heads, solid roller cam, forged rot. assy...etc..
Nice setup. That should make some big HP numbers. The two MPs are a good choice. What style headers/manifolds are you planning to use? The .com on the hat looks strange/silly. I would have been kind of POed to see that on the new parts I bought.
did the brake booster delete mod.. LOL. going to buy a wilwood master cylinder for extra clearance. The turbos are going to be off sitting "on top" of the motor off to each side..so the hood needs modification also.
I didnt bother posting all the parts I have..kinda boring I think. So I'll just post progress as it happens.
the CSU guys are great! thhey know what they are doing with the blow through's.
__________________ 82 Z-28 408ci Dart block and heads, solid roller , super vic, 950 hp , manual shift th-400 with brake. moser 12 bolt. 11.16 @ 121.. on motor 10.00 @ 139.38 on spray . all at 6300 feet eleavation and 3665 lbs race weight. Best 1/8 mile 6.47 @ 111. All in full street trim.
64 GTO original 389, 4-sp
85 Nissan 300ZX turbo autocross car
84 Datsun 300ZX turbo 12psi boost D.D.
junkcltr: Its been a few months since I bought them.. dont know off the top of my head..when I go to the shop I'll check. Yes they are T4 flange.
automec: yep!! Keith is a smart dude.. even before I bought my carb they were very helpful.. I read nothin but good stuff about them and figured it was a no-brainer.
Nice set up. You are going to make some huge power out those things.
I am still having tuning issues with my homemade holley blow thru carb. Can you please tell me how much you paid for the carb itself? I have been debating on buying a CSU or to keep trying to tune my holley. Just want to know how much? Did you send them a carb, or did you just by it from them?
Thanks a lot for your help.
Boosted V-8's Rule!!!!!!
__________________ 1988 Iroc-Z 355 4-bolt block Street driven w/forged internals, carb blow thru set up with twin t-3 turbos off a diesel benz made T4 Hybrids w/ a twin BOV,Aluminum vortech heads fully ported, 1.6 full roller rockers with comp forced induction custom grind solid roller cam, stud girdle, Rev kit, Super victor intake, home made headers for turbos tig welded, holley 4150 DP modified for blow thru system, home made carb bonnet, mallory FPR with return, Msd BTM, Alky inj, uderdrive pulleys, 3.5 inch exhaust, 3.73 gears, currently running 18 lbs of boost.(yellow car)
Check out the www.turbomustangs.com blow-thru carb section. There is quite a bit of cars running the CSU carbs. Never read one bad post about them. Some mention price & stuff.
KillerZ: I bought the 850 directly from them. It was $830 and $160 (?) for the bonnet. But junkctlr is right, CSU gets it done right..good tech support also. You can send them your carb and they will mod it.. I thought about doing that but figured it would be easier to just buy it brand new from them.
Well thanks a lot. I will Look into them.
Keep up the good work.
__________________ 1988 Iroc-Z 355 4-bolt block Street driven w/forged internals, carb blow thru set up with twin t-3 turbos off a diesel benz made T4 Hybrids w/ a twin BOV,Aluminum vortech heads fully ported, 1.6 full roller rockers with comp forced induction custom grind solid roller cam, stud girdle, Rev kit, Super victor intake, home made headers for turbos tig welded, holley 4150 DP modified for blow thru system, home made carb bonnet, mallory FPR with return, Msd BTM, Alky inj, uderdrive pulleys, 3.5 inch exhaust, 3.73 gears, currently running 18 lbs of boost.(yellow car)
__________________ 2011 chicago world of wheels placed in super street class
Best Engine '11 Thirdgenfest
Best Modified Camaro Thirdgenfest '05, '07, '11 Second place Camaro Modified '06, '08, & '10
MFBA March 2008 Featured Calendar Vehicle
Nice looking build, can't wait to see it finished. I'm working on a similar setup and have everything I need to finish it but need... except confidence in my tig skills. I'd hate to ruin my 321 stainless bends, collectors and flanges.
Is it going to be a dragrace only car? I'm keeping mine more street / open roadrace orientated so I want to keep my booster and possibly convert to anti-locks later. I've decided to go with a remote master cylinder ... some of the street rod guys do this if they dont have room on their firewalls for the booster. The kits use a mechanical linkage or a hyd slave cylinder like a hyd. clutch to actuate the master cylinder setup. I think I'm going to put mine in the rear but another option is to mount it inside the dash where the heater box was.
I hate to take the post off topic but that looks like a fuel pressure regulator monted to the firewall. I've been told that having fuel system components on the firewall is against NHRA rules. Maybe someone with a rule book can clairify if this is true.
no its going to be a street car. I have a remote master cyl also. You are right about the FPR on the firewall.. the tech guy at the track must have missed it on my original setup.. LOL.
I'll keep this updated as it progresses.. TIG welder should be at Gene's shop Friday/Monday so we should see finished headers soon
i really like that setup looks like it wouldnt be hard to work on eaither... the BBS kit rolls them on top of the valve covers it fits under a 3rd gen hood but i imagine a pain to work on most of it that setup is gonna keep it nice and outta the way... all i know is ive seen plenty of sbc twin turbo build ups hitting 1200hp with just a 355 i couldnt even think of what that 406 will push out... just dont turn that car into a pretzel
camarokev400:
yes its a Dart Little M block o-ringed, eagle rot. assy, JE turbo pistons, pro-topline alum. heads, Doug Herbert custom solid roller, pro-magnum rockers etc.
wezeles: yep I can reach the spark plugs and pull the valve covers w/o any problems.
thank you for the replies..glad you'all are enjoying the pics.
Since you're doing blow thru, what are you doig about boost retard curve? What kind of ignition, just an MSD with piggy back boost retard system? Curious because I'm heading down the exact same road
That paired with a nice Wideband o2 and you just may be a happy man. Once the wound heals in your wallet. That's probably the route I'll be taking though.
start a thread for your project...I'm interested... I think I've scoured the entire power adder section for turbo installs. New reading material is always good!
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Since you're doing blow thru, what are you doig about boost retard curve? What kind of ignition, just an MSD with piggy back boost retard system? Curious because I'm heading down the exact same road
If you're still undecided... check out this link: Programmable Digital-7 w/Boost Retard Curve, PN 7535
That paired with a nice Wideband o2 and you just may be a happy man. Once the wound heals in your wallet. That's probably the route I'll be taking though.
I have a MSD-6ABTM box. I like that Digital7 though. The 6ABTM is the same ignition I used on my roots blown 68. Worked perfect so I'm sure it will work fine here. The WB-02..I'm going to buy a gauge kit that I will use seperately (LM-1 ? I think its called that).. Pretty much as you see it is how it will run. I'll have the snow performance stage 2 kit installed on there to inject per # of boost. Now that my friends TIG is in..I'm going to see if he's up to fabbing up a set of intercoolers after the car is done.
here's a update.. headers are basically done.. Gene is going to completely finish the tubing for the air inlet before he fabs up a housing for the fans. coming along nicely.
Why the heat barrier over the tubing between the turbos and the intake? Seems unusual and I wonder why you would want hold in the hot air from the turbos.
Why the heat barrier over the tubing between the turbos and the intake? Seems unusual and I wonder why you would want hold in the hot air from the turbos.
i'm not holding the hot air *from* the turbos..thats the inlet into the carb hat.. The radiator fans will be blowing hot air onto that tubing so I wanted that shielded.
yeah, I looked briefly but didnt find it right away so i thought I'd ask...
Look into it though... i bet your compressor discharge temps will be higher than your ambient temps behind the radiator. Can't wait to see you finish it and get it dialed in... bad *** ride.
This is exzactly what Im looking for, I have a rebuilt 400 with a unknown aftermarket cam and stock heads. how much boost would you run through one of theese? If i did do this i couldnt be able to afford heads.
Seems circle track guys have found the limits of a 400 block to be about 600hp. Remember they are running 7500/8000 rpm continuous. That is what my machinist has told me.
but DEF ditch the dryer hose and get the intake ceramic coated
just looks trashy around all that good work
its not dryer hose btw..
block is a Dart block... you can get away with a 400 block, just run splayed caps if you are going to put some power through it. I think I'll end up removing the heat shield but not ceramic coating it.
block is a Dart block... you can get away with a 400 block, just run splayed caps if you are going to put some power through it. I think I'll end up removing the heat shield but not ceramic coating it.
i know its not dryer hose but you have to admit from the pics it looks really similar...just get it out of there so your setup will look 100% kick a$$
good luck with the rest of your build
how much did you pick up the dart block for and what internals did you use if you dont mind me askin?
Runnin that boost you better have a aftermarket block!! Man that is one of the cleanest installs ever. Are the manifolds/headers ceramic coated? How fast you lookin to run?
no ceramic coating. not looking for any specific ET's. 9's would be nice but i'm not really interested in that at this point.. just wanna put out about 750RWHP and work my way up.
alot of work has been done.. the fuel lines were all replaced w/braided, boost lines were installed, intake tapped for boost reference etc.. everything is basically done.. what is left is to fabricate a shroud for the electric fans, hook up the transmission cooler, oil cooler, lower radiator hose and a v-belt.
