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I would like to put mine on the upper flat part of the hatch, but didn't know if I would hit the gas tank if I drilled through. any suggestions for the bust flow and position? post pics if you got um.
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"Why StockBastard?" you might ask. Well...
84 Berlinetta body w/custom paint.
92 front/rear bumper and ground affects.
89 IROC 350tpi engine w/lots of mods.
87 3.73 BW possi rear w/disk brakes.
86 interior w/IROC dash.
And finally, stock Vet rims from the early 70s.(same ones used on the 69ss)
ALL IN ONE CAR!!!
13.9@98.7
soon to be juicin'
hopin' for 12s
anyone try to steal that bottle yet? Im surprised not yet.. when i lived in bakersfield people used to steal autometer gauges out of my car (i swear..)
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Slowly getting slower 1989 Firebird.. modded heavily for a v6
"I'd rather run last in a full out race, than to NOT have run at all"
#3 Forever
That's a good question. HAS anyone mounted it on the top part of the trunk? Drilling though shouldn't hit the gas tank with a small screw...I wouldn't think so.
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1992 Camaro RS (Auto)
- Performance mods
NOS (125 HP shot)
Dynomax cat-back exhaust
Hedman headers
K & N open element/ X-Stream lid
MSD 6A ignition
Under drive pulleys
LT1 camshaft Now ordered:
Edelbrock intake manifold
3.42 posi
B & M 2400 RPM stall torque converter
Transgo shift kit
Moroso Blue Max plug wires
305 TPI heads
Audio
Sony Xplod CDX-M610 head unit
Pioneer 2-way 4x6 front speakers
Pioneer 3-way 6x9 rear speakers
12 inch Pioneer VCCS PRO subwoofer
QLogic sealed box
Kicker ZR360 amplifier
Lightning Audio 1 farad capacitor Other
Macewen White Faced Gauges/Shift overlay
A-pillar gauges (Phantom oil pressure, Air/Fuel)
180* thermostat
Window Tint
I have seen many mounted on the upper level hatch floor.
Yes you do have to use caution not to drill into the gas tank or the fuel lines if you mount anything to the upper level of the hatch area floor. I know of a guy that drilled right into the gas tank trying to mount an amplifier there in a TA.
Nope... it won't hit. I saw a guy here in jersey at Atco runnin that setup. I made a platform out of plywood to fit that little hump on either side and radiused the corners...it fits perfect and looks trick. No need to drill holes in the body... I hate hackin things up. I didn't cut any holes in the body for the nos stuff not even the supply line. Later Derrick
When I had nitrous, I had my bottle mounted in the following manner:
I fabricated a 1/8-inch steel plate which the two bottle brackets bolt to. I removed the passenger side rear seat cushion, drilled two holes in the seat bracket, and bolted the steel plate to the bracket. The blowdown tube vented through a hole in the floor pan to under the car. The beauty of this location is that I could reach around to the bottle from the driver's seat and turn the valve on or off. I could also turn around and see the nitrous pressure gauge. Any other location and this would be impossible. With the bottle out of the car and the seat cushion back in place, all mounting holes are unseen. I can't think of a better location.
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Willie
Supercharged 1987 305 IROC-Z, Daily-Driver, Emissions-Legal.
Former Paxton (6-psig) with 50-hp nitrous: 12.043 @ 112.86 mph.
ATI D1SC (10-psig): 12.056 @ 116.62 mph.
All stats are altitude corrected for 3,100 feet using NHRA's Altitude Correction Table.
Great suggestions. I'm thinking about mounting it to the back of the fold down rear passenger seat. I keep it foded down most of the time anyway, and I'm going to use winged bolts, so I can yank it with no troube at all, fold the seat up, and no unsightly holes.
Hey willie, did you say that msd adjustable timing modulator pluged right into stock ignition? My contacts are saying you have to have MSD ignition module to use it. Any input???
l mounted mine in the hatch, not on the top part but the bottom deeper in, its in my opinion the best spot, hecubus has a good spot too, very original, easy access, and l dont think someones going to try to steal it, but at the track do they let you run without a safety blow down tube? the bottom of the hatch can easily conceal a bottle under a blanket, and instead of buying one of those expensive NOS bottle blankets , it's easy to stuff a big sleeping bag over the bottle and keep it at a constant temperature even in the dead of winter. Its a safe place to drill holes, and it keeps it out of the sun in the hot summer.
<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by StockBastard: Hey willie, did you say that msd adjustable timing modulator pluged right into stock ignition? My contacts are saying you have to have MSD ignition module to use it. Any input???</font>
The module I use (MSD #8683) is made for the GM HEI and not to be used with any MSD ignition box. The installation instructions state, "The PN 8683 timing control is designed to easily install to GM vehicles that are equipped with an external coil and the small cap electronic distributor."
There are two plug-in connectors at the distributor. One has four wires, the other has two. On the four-wire connector, two of the wires are cut (can't recall which two offhand). The MSD module has four wires. Each factory wire end (4), is connected to the four MSD wires.
Willie
[This message has been edited by Willie (edited August 20, 2001).]
I put mine behind the driver's seat, but am thinking about moving it to the passenger side for easier access while sitting. I have also added a braided blowdown line with 90* and bulkhead fitting for a clean install. The metal mount for the seat cushion makes a nice base for the bottle (just reverse the bottle mount for the correct angle).
Thanks again willie. I'll check into that part number.
I've got my fuel pressure guage hooked up, and some of the hardware mounted. All that's left is to run the lines and tap my throttle body.
I'm looking forward to my first hit!!!
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"Why StockBastard?" you might ask. Well...
84 Berlinetta body w/custom paint.
92 front/rear bumper and ground affects.
89 IROC 350tpi engine w/lots of mods.
87 3.73 BW possi rear w/disk brakes.
86 interior w/IROC dash.
And finally, stock Vet rims from the early 70s.(same ones used on the 69ss)
ALL IN ONE CAR!!!
13.9@98.7
soon to be juicin'
hopin' for 12s
take out the back seats and throw it in just like the one pictured except behind pass. seat. Then you can look over at the guy youre racing, stick your arm behind you seat and turn the bottle on, flip the switch, and see the look of IMMINANT A S S beating wash over his face.
But thats just what I do
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91 RS W/carbed 350, Vortec heads, performer rpm, Comp cams Xtreme energy 224/230 duration and .477/.480 lift. BFG Drag radials. 3.42 posi,Corvette servoed 700r4, 3000rpm stall converter. Edelbrock TES, 3inch cat, flowmaster with single 2.5 inch exit.
Best time yet to come
13.0 @ 107- N/A
yet to come- Nitrous
If you only spray on the track I'd put it in the spare tire spot, or on the other side, so it's out of the way and no one can see it. If you juice on the street you can put it in the back seat, or you can get electric solenoid valves to turn it on/off if it's hidden and use pillar mounted pressure gauges to keep track of it.
This may not help you any, but it is the sneakiest install I've even heard of (beenm using this for 9 years now):
I ran an entra long line from the motor to the hatch area (20 feet or so), drilling through the rear well for the line. I put the line in the channel (between the top trunk and plastic panels) so you can't see it. I then mounted the nitrous bottle on a piece of thin plywood large enough to hold the brackets - slightly smaller than the bottle. Then I bought a large Nike duffel bag (Glow orange and put it in there with a few towels (to keep it from looking obvious). i topped it off with a weightlifting belt around the bag. Not one person ever guessed that there is a nitrous bottle in there.
In order to get at it, I put the bag in a position (with the bag open just enough) where I could reach behind the seat with my left hand and turn on the bottle without turning around/stopping.
I also ran the lines under the car in a way you cannot see them (and painted them black). Same thing under the hood, except that it is right in front of you and nobody ever noticed the solenoids either.
Don't put it in the top part of the hatch, it blocks your view and gets heated by the sun (bad in summer, good in winter).
im thinkin of puttin my bottle where Hecubus has his. the only problem with my bottle is that its a 15lb bottle and its the older style bottle (long and blue even though all the bottles are blue from nos) and in my case im going to have to remove the whole entire back seat. like the fold down part and since no one rides back there the passenger seats too.
true ya got me there. i keep on forgettin that the sniper kit is from NOS. i havent really seen people with that kit. either people have the NX kit or the Nos kit
put mine in the hump between the two back seats. also makes a good armrest for anyone in the back (if they can fit back there!). i just used some self tapping sheet metal screws ,and it holds the brackets on there perfectly.
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put mine in the hump between the two back seats. also makes a good armrest for anyone in the back (if they can fit back there!). i just used some self tapping sheet metal screws ,and it holds the brackets on there perfectly.
Thats exactly what I did.
__________________ 1992 RS - ZZ4 short block, Pro Topline heads, comp XR276HR cam, Stealth ram with 58mm throttle body, T56, 4.10 gears.
The screws I used were not near long enough to get to the dirve shaft. I don't know about the rust though, I live in Arizona so I never have to worry about rust.
__________________ 1992 RS - ZZ4 short block, Pro Topline heads, comp XR276HR cam, Stealth ram with 58mm throttle body, T56, 4.10 gears.
If you use nitrous on the street and you don't want to spend the $ on a remote valve opener, etc. the place in between the back seats looks like the best to me. Is there any good way to cover it there though? Sure, it looks cool, and it's handy, until you get pulled over. How can you explain a big blue bottle with the letters NOS on it when Mr. Policeman is asking for your license, registration, and proof of insurance? Even dumb cops have seen The Fast and The Furious!
hey Desert86Roc how did u hook the braided line up to the bottle like that in the 1st arrow? also how did u hook the cap backup to the blow off cap? im just curious so when i get my bottle refilled i can have a new blow off cap put in.
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mods to car- rebuilt 305 bored .030 over, slightly better then stock cam, stock heads, edelbrock performer intake, edelbrock 600 carb, no emmissions, no computer, no a/c, all new igntion system (mainly replacemtn parts) but i have accel super coil, wires, and plugs, th350 tranny with shift kit, hooker cat back and catco hi flow cat, 14x4 K&N filter
Mods coming soon: XE262 cam kit, 2500 stall converter, hookersuper comp long tubes, rear suspention work, struts and shocks (KYB).
brian89transam:i dont knwo about where you are, but in texas, it is LEGAL to have your bottle hooked up, filled, in your arm's reach, and redy to go, but you CAN NOT actually use it, because it implies you are street racing. even then, they can't prove you were using it, so they will just bust you for racing.
__________________ I love fast cars and fast women, but somehow i don't have either!
http://www.wickedspeed.com
Wicked Speed Motorsports: Going against the flow.
how gay is that? I saw that nebraska was trying to do that too. They were going to make you wear a scarlet letter a big red "N" on both ends of your car to embarass you and to "warn other drivers that you were some kind of "suicidal freak". Unfortunately they realized that most cars in nebraska already have big red "N" all over the cars and trucks for the gay colledge team. I fail to understand how some governments could see that nitrous or a certain kind of gun, or schools could say a certain type of dress is illegal or offensive. it leads to laws and rules that are "feel good"
Unless that's strictly a local thing, that's not entirely right. Basically hazmat laws for N2O don't apply till you go over 50 or 200# depending on the container and where
Mounted mine in the spare tire well. Put the cover on and you wouldn't even know it was there. Also have a remote open solnoid on the bottle with the control sw. mounted on the side of the shifter panel.
and Between the back Seats....unless extreme stealth is more important then accessablity then I recomend here, SOOO much easier to get to on or off.
Double check in the burn out box, how many times have you heard or seen someone not turning on the bottle, fouling the run/race
-plus it does shorten the distance traveled. That does keep pressure better, hince more power, sooner, minor but another plus
__________________ Ram Air Firebird Formula 350 1987
Powder Coated Holley Stealth,
HX50W Holset, monster SX pump,
42lb injectors, FMIC, FS BOV [[Tuning in progress]] and I still have my Nitrous back up my 10psi... bent 3 rods..... now 6.0L/ 4l80e with Nitrous