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John, I want to see an add such as this (Click Here), but with your logo at the end when all is said and done. Once the 454-SBC is installed with the T88 turbo charger, I'd be honored to be in your video add bro. Hehe, wouldn't mind smoking the heck out of a few Lamborghini's down there while I'm at it. Heh, "700-AWHP", BRING IT....!!!!
-Rob
How long until your motor is built? Cool video, too.
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Thats it! I am serious that I am gonna have you do this 99.9%..... Bring it on!
We can go as fast as your wallett will allow, lol.
How long until your motor is built? Cool video, too.
The company is actually based near to where I grew up once upon a time (Click Here), as I plan on purchasing they're crate 454-SBC. Only difference is they will be greatly reducing static compression for my application. I'm entertaining a few offers with the Z06, so hopefully this will happen during the next couple of months. Either way, we can at least get the turbo setup completed using the stock LB9 as a mock up....
-Rob
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Thats it! I am serious that I am gonna have you do this 99.9%..... Bring it on
I'm known as the motivation guy (Click here), I'm the one whispering in your ear; "do it, doooooo it, DO IT"! By the way, that Trans Am in the vid has run a best of 9.05 in the 1/4 mile, in full street trim, on a 17" tire....!
-Rob (the DO IT guy)
__________________ 1998 Trans Am: Mystic Blue w/Tan Leather, Automatic, T-Tops, Daily Driver.... 1990 Trans Am GTA: Black w/Black Leather, 5-Speed, T-Tops, Few Mods.... 1989 Trans Am TTA: White w/Tan Leather, Automatic, T-Tops, Garage Queen.... 1986 Chevy Camaro V6: Blue w/Black Cloth, Hardtop, 355-TPI Swap, 700R4, MS-II....
The company is actually based near to where I grew up once upon a time (Click Here), as I plan on purchasing they're crate 454-SBC. Only difference is they will be greatly reducing static compression for my application. I'm entertaining a few offers with the Z06, so hopefully this will happen during the next couple of months. Either way, we can at least get the turbo setup completed using the stock LB9 as a mock up....
-Rob
That link says those heads flow 220cfm on the intake side, my 3500 heads do 218cfm in stock form (with the manifold attached)
^ Click here, my cylinder heads are going to be a little more aggressive....
__________________ 1998 Trans Am: Mystic Blue w/Tan Leather, Automatic, T-Tops, Daily Driver.... 1990 Trans Am GTA: Black w/Black Leather, 5-Speed, T-Tops, Few Mods.... 1989 Trans Am TTA: White w/Tan Leather, Automatic, T-Tops, Garage Queen.... 1986 Chevy Camaro V6: Blue w/Black Cloth, Hardtop, 355-TPI Swap, 700R4, MS-II....
^ Click here, my cylinder heads are going to be a little more aggressive....
.700" max lift, sweet.
The 60* heads can lift to about .75" max, but there isn't a spring that will allow it. The yellow springs will allow me ~.510". I'm just concerned about the valve to piston clearance for the cam selection - 3.4 pistons have a very small dish and the aluminum heads are already heve interference issues if timing is slightly off.
So Loner made the 3hr drive down here on Thursday to install his turbo, got here about noon and drove home this morning about the same time (Sat)...
Hehe, I'd like to see that Corsica run like this ole Plymouth Reliant soon, Click Here....!
-Rob
__________________ 1998 Trans Am: Mystic Blue w/Tan Leather, Automatic, T-Tops, Daily Driver.... 1990 Trans Am GTA: Black w/Black Leather, 5-Speed, T-Tops, Few Mods.... 1989 Trans Am TTA: White w/Tan Leather, Automatic, T-Tops, Garage Queen.... 1986 Chevy Camaro V6: Blue w/Black Cloth, Hardtop, 355-TPI Swap, 700R4, MS-II....
__________________ 1998 Trans Am: Mystic Blue w/Tan Leather, Automatic, T-Tops, Daily Driver.... 1990 Trans Am GTA: Black w/Black Leather, 5-Speed, T-Tops, Few Mods.... 1989 Trans Am TTA: White w/Tan Leather, Automatic, T-Tops, Garage Queen.... 1986 Chevy Camaro V6: Blue w/Black Cloth, Hardtop, 355-TPI Swap, 700R4, MS-II....
cast pistons are better than hyper for boost/nitrous
A decent hyperuetectic will not expand as much as a cast piston when heated. To me that would seem better. Yeah, they are more brittle though. If the tune is right then hypers would seem to be better due to the heat factor. Sound right?
Any piston rattling with boost will have a short life. Some shorter than others.
A decent hyperuetectic will not expand as much as a cast piston when heated. To me that would seem better. Yeah, they are more brittle though. If the tune is right then hypers would seem to be better due to the heat factor. Sound right?
The extra silicone in hypereutectics makes them brittle, but very slick. Hypereutectics are great for n/a engines that aren't likely to see detonation because you can run tighter clearances with less chance of scuffing, but they can't handle detonation. Cast is more malleable, which makes them more detonation resistant. Instead of shattering they deform a little and absorb the impact, which is why forgings are choice pistons for detonation-prone setups. Forgings will deform far more than castings before breaking. The downside is the extra clearance needed for expansion (especially in high-heat boosted engines), whereas castings don't expand nearly as much.
That's from the Reliant Read the link I gave above.
Even Big Daddy agrees (click here), those older Dodge's and Plymouth's are getting more and more popular (and rare, for that matter). I'm now contemplating a GLHS now....
-Rob
__________________ 1998 Trans Am: Mystic Blue w/Tan Leather, Automatic, T-Tops, Daily Driver.... 1990 Trans Am GTA: Black w/Black Leather, 5-Speed, T-Tops, Few Mods.... 1989 Trans Am TTA: White w/Tan Leather, Automatic, T-Tops, Garage Queen.... 1986 Chevy Camaro V6: Blue w/Black Cloth, Hardtop, 355-TPI Swap, 700R4, MS-II....
The extra silicone in hypereutectics makes them brittle, but very slick. Hypereutectics are great for n/a engines that aren't likely to see detonation because you can run tighter clearances with less chance of scuffing, but they can't handle detonation. Cast is more malleable, which makes them more detonation resistant. Instead of shattering they deform a little and absorb the impact, which is why forgings are choice pistons for detonation-prone setups. Forgings will deform far more than castings before breaking. The downside is the extra clearance needed for expansion (especially in high-heat boosted engines), whereas castings don't expand nearly as much.
That seems to be backwards from everything I've read and everything I've personally experianced.
In the Franken60, since I didn't have proper tuning equipment at the time and too small of an injector, my engine would detonate when I pushed it hard. The pistons after 2 years and 20,000+ KMs of HARD abuse looked brand new when they came out and are now in yet another force fed engine belonging to someone else.
Cast pistons seem to shatter easier than hypereutectic, and this would be attributed to (usually) a lower silicon content, and possible casting process inconsistancies.
That would be right. Most oem pistons are of poor quality aluminum and are loaded with junk you don't want in a performance piston and tend to break easier than quality hypereutectics. With the amount of focus most afermarket producers put into their hypereutectics they come out much 'cleaner' than their replacement-type castings. But quality clean castings are more malleable than equivalent hypereutectics. It's all about quality.
so its a 4 door corsica with a auto? all i can wonder is why? that tranny will be toast when its beat on even with out the added power, sigh oh well. next time do it in a cavalier z24 with a 5 speed then it will be cool.
so its a 4 door corsica with a auto? all i can wonder is why? that tranny will be toast when its beat on even with out the added power, sigh oh well. next time do it in a cavalier z24 with a 5 speed then it will be cool.
I don't car what car it is, when it leaves the shop - it's faster then when arrived.
I don't car what car it is, when it leaves the shop - it's faster then when arrived.
Good point.
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I so its a 4 door corsica with a auto? all i can wonder is why? that tranny will be toast when its beat on even with out the added power, sigh oh well. next time do it in a cavalier z24 with a 5 speed then it will be cool.
Yeah, we all know how cool a cavalier is. Even cooler if it has a 5-speed trans. in it because it has a knob and a cool pattern on the knob. Some Corvette owners may ask why thirdgen owners boost their cars. Fact is, it is all relative. Boost what you have and have fun.
Ahh man congrats on build now im dieing to get a turbo on my little 2.8l firebird. How much would you charge for a weld it your self kit? I reli only need the pipes and the little things. Im looking to run about 6 psi mabe 7 topps. I do live in NY tho so i dont know what im going to have to do for inspection.
Still the same boost, but with meth injection and drag radials (still spinning). Unfortunately, he hurt the motor on the next run, thinks it may be a ring. Trying to talk him into a 3500 swap
^ It would have already ran a 12 if he had a better sixty foot....
__________________ 1998 Trans Am: Mystic Blue w/Tan Leather, Automatic, T-Tops, Daily Driver.... 1990 Trans Am GTA: Black w/Black Leather, 5-Speed, T-Tops, Few Mods.... 1989 Trans Am TTA: White w/Tan Leather, Automatic, T-Tops, Garage Queen.... 1986 Chevy Camaro V6: Blue w/Black Cloth, Hardtop, 355-TPI Swap, 700R4, MS-II....
Still the same boost, but with meth injection and drag radials (still spinning). Unfortunately, he hurt the motor on the next run, thinks it may be a ring. Trying to talk him into a 3500 swap
what size and kind of drag radial is he running?,most fwd cars i see wont hook on nothing short of a full out slick with 8 psi in the tire.he should put some sring spacers in the rear springs or airbags even.would help stop rearward wieght tranfer on launch
what size and kind of drag radial is he running?,most fwd cars i see wont hook on nothing short of a full out slick with 8 psi in the tire.he should put some sring spacers in the rear springs or airbags even.would help stop rearward wieght tranfer on launch
The Radials I used were borrowed from a buddy. They are Toyo proxy 205/50-15s. Alittle small but helped out ALOT compared to my street tires. Im working on getting slicks but I cant afford any at the moment. Also the car already has air shocks on the rear but I havent felt like paying 75cents to use the pump at the track on them and I have bought a 12v one yet but plan to at some point. 60' on my street tires were 2.2. Radials got me a 2.1 launching the car at 2500 rpm everytime. Once I have better traction I should be able to bring the RPMs up to 3k if my brakes will hold
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No corsica should be able to do a low 13 pass. I'm going to protest if it sees 12's.
Protest all you want Ill have video and slips to prove it. But your right, no Corsica should be seeing times/power like this but its fun as hell and everyones reactions are great
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But your right, no Corsica should be seeing times/power like this but its fun as hell and everyones reactions are great
That's what it's ALL about.....
__________________ 1998 Trans Am: Mystic Blue w/Tan Leather, Automatic, T-Tops, Daily Driver.... 1990 Trans Am GTA: Black w/Black Leather, 5-Speed, T-Tops, Few Mods.... 1989 Trans Am TTA: White w/Tan Leather, Automatic, T-Tops, Garage Queen.... 1986 Chevy Camaro V6: Blue w/Black Cloth, Hardtop, 355-TPI Swap, 700R4, MS-II....
According to my buddy people laugh when they see me pull up, but quickly stop when they hear the Tial 50mm and then see the car take off down the track then they look like this
^ Never thought I'd see a 12 second Corsica. I'd like to get down there to see it in person.
__________________ 1998 Trans Am: Mystic Blue w/Tan Leather, Automatic, T-Tops, Daily Driver.... 1990 Trans Am GTA: Black w/Black Leather, 5-Speed, T-Tops, Few Mods.... 1989 Trans Am TTA: White w/Tan Leather, Automatic, T-Tops, Garage Queen.... 1986 Chevy Camaro V6: Blue w/Black Cloth, Hardtop, 355-TPI Swap, 700R4, MS-II....
^ Never thought I'd see a 12 second Corsica. I'd like to get down there to see it in person.
Well until I can get slick you wont be seeing an 12second slips or videos from this car. I cant launch the car off the line past 2500rpm if I want any hope at traction, even on drag radials. That 13.0 run my MBC messed up and I was running 15psi on WAY to much meth. I figure out last night the biggest meth nozzle I need, even on 15psi is a 6gph, I currently have a 12gph installed . Once I find my 7gph nozzle that I just took out Im going to put that one back in and go for new times..........once I figure out what Im doing about my turbo. I dropped it off Monday to be checked. It needs a full rebuild and have the center bored out. Something went through it and messed it up (I have a few internal issues I try to forget about and not tell anyone that I think caused this). Long story short, I dont have the $335 I need to repair the current center section so Im taking them another one I have here in hopes they can put my 60trim/stage3 wheels in that one...Ill update on that later if I can remember
I don't think it's got any markings. I think it would probably spool at like 1500, but that might not be too terrible seeing that my 2.8 spins to about 4500. I think the suby motor makes a similar amount of power N/A as the 2.8.
It was basically free so I'll probably try it sometime when I've got some extra money.
lol that 2.8 will want to spin up high as long as the ex housing isnt choking it
also hope ur not planing on getting good gas milage well mine went up alot BUT its so dam hard to keep ur foot out of it lol
then it will be cool. 
Ill have video and slips to prove it. But your right, no Corsica should be seeing times/power like this but its fun as hell and everyones reactions are great 
lol. I could only hope to see times like that but I really doubt my stock trans and bottom end will allow for that 
. Once I find my 7gph nozzle that I just took out Im going to put that one back in and go for new times..........once I figure out what Im doing about my turbo. I dropped it off Monday to be checked. It needs a full rebuild and have the center bored out. Something went through it and messed it up (I have a few internal issues I try to forget about and not tell anyone that I think caused this). Long story short, I dont have the $335 I need to repair the current center section so Im taking them another one I have here in hopes they can put my 60trim/stage3 wheels in that one...Ill update on that later if I can remember 
